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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:53 am

Let's see what will happen when April 2020 comes around....another round of politicking will happen, another few billion pumped in.....thousands of jobs saved, suppliers happy, employees happy, management happy..... voila, back to square one
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:02 am

Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:58 am

janders wrote:
Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX


Interesting, given that there isn't currently a direct link between Paris and KUL.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:08 am

Obzerva wrote:
janders wrote:
Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX


Interesting, given that there isn't currently a direct link between Paris and KUL.


Not really. KLM and Malaysia have long worked together. It was somewhat a surprise that Malaysia opted for Oneworld a few years ago. The only surprise is that AF/KL is looking for a partner in SE Asia and is interested in investing in that region.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:17 am

Obzerva wrote:
janders wrote:
Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX


Interesting, given that there isn't currently a direct link between Paris and KUL.


But KLM is going strong in KUL. In fact KL-MH had a very strong relationship for years, even when MH flew to AMS.

Meanwhile, there are reports that AirAsia is the frontrunner to take over MH, which means the end of MH branding as we know it. In exchange, Tony Fernandes is demanding that the Malaysian government take all the debts & retrenchment costs to the tune of around $1.96 billion, cancel the 737MAX orders, get rid of the A380s & the leased A332s, and most importantly the Malaysia government gets no golden shares which means no interference.

JL meanwhile is in second place.

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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:34 am

EmoticonsAllDay wrote:
Maybe SIA could buy MAS like the pre-1972 era? SIA is in need of narrowbodies anyways and MAS has loads of them. Even the widebodies are of the same types operated by SIA (A330, A350, A380). This way MAS don't loose their dignity.


sorry, but you have no clue how Asia works ! In the case of Malaysia and its tiny neighbour, this is is a no-go for any politician. Selling MAS to SIA - even if the local politicians sell it as a merger - will never be aceptable to the majority of Malysian people. This is like a surrender note, a white flag. It will never happen.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:45 am

janders wrote:
Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX


surely one of the better scenarios - each of them. Both of them may still be the best bet.
A merger with Air Asia makes no real sense. A flip-flop LCC with premium cabin will never work. Others have failed trying to do so - and they failed having far higher yields.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:39 am

terrificturk wrote:
janders wrote:
Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX


surely one of the better scenarios - each of them. Both of them may still be the best bet.
A merger with Air Asia makes no real sense. A flip-flop LCC with premium cabin will never work. Others have failed trying to do so - and they failed having far higher yields.


Air Asia's goal is to merge their low cost operations into AK and use a new brand for MH as a premium airline. There's technically a market for this considering the woeful state of Indonesia's airlines and the financial problems for full service airlines in Thailand and India.

It would be competing with the new JV by NH and SQ for the SEA and India market, though MH already has a JV with JL. I presume that the plethora of Asian carriers would be in competition for the long haul market.

The only problem with AF-KLM is that they don't have any experience of running a third airline nor reforming their own airlines. But they both have historic colonial interests in the wider region (Indochina and Indonesia).
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:46 am

I thought someone previously had said AirAsias proposal was to combine MH longhaul with D7 (AirAsiaX) - ie. The 330 operation.

D7 has performed far less well than AK - share price is at record lows and MCap only US$170m or so. They'd be very nervous about a resurgent MH.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:31 pm

janders wrote:
Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX


This has been denied by AF KLM.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:44 pm

Ah yes Air France getting rid of its fleet of A380s to get a new one. I see what you did there Mr Smith.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:39 pm

I am curious to know more about the proposal from "frontrunner" AK - certainly if it is to merge MH with Air Asia D7 rather than run two separate brands then I am not in favour. Air Asia's product on the A330 is highly questionable. Which is why they can't get traction with D7. I imagine they know that, and see this as an opportunity. But love to know their plans. I haven't seen anything online about this. Anybdy got any further info?
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:54 pm

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Meanwhile, there are reports that AirAsia is the frontrunner to take over MH, which means the end of MH branding as we know it. In exchange, Tony Fernandes is demanding that the Malaysian government take all the debts & retrenchment costs to the tune of around $1.96 billion, cancel the 737MAX orders, get rid of the A380s & the leased A332s, and most importantly the Malaysia government gets no golden shares which means no interference.


That's probably a sensible outline for restructuring. No golden share after eating $2 Billion isn't likely to be accepted. Want the government to clean up mistakes? It's going to stay in your business.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:06 pm

NZ321 wrote:
I am curious to know more about the proposal from "frontrunner" AK - certainly if it is to merge MH with Air Asia D7 rather than run two separate brands then I am not in favour. Air Asia's product on the A330 is highly questionable. Which is why they can't get traction with D7. I imagine they know that, and see this as an opportunity. But love to know their plans. I haven't seen anything online about this. Anybdy got any further info?

No one wants to comment officially but the merger is in essence going to result in a single LCC brand and a single premium carrier brand. D7 will no longer exist.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:26 pm

terrificturk wrote:
EmoticonsAllDay wrote:
Maybe SIA could buy MAS like the pre-1972 era? SIA is in need of narrowbodies anyways and MAS has loads of them. Even the widebodies are of the same types operated by SIA (A330, A350, A380). This way MAS don't loose their dignity.


sorry, but you have no clue how Asia works ! In the case of Malaysia and its tiny neighbour, this is is a no-go for any politician. Selling MAS to SIA - even if the local politicians sell it as a merger - will never be aceptable to the majority of Malysian people. This is like a surrender note, a white flag. It will never happen.


The Malaysian people would not care.

Malaysian politicians on the other hand do. Especially the current PM.
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:49 pm

Reported that 4 bids were received.

1. AFKL
2. JAL
3. Malindo
4. Air Asia Group

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... s-revealed

Air Asia Group and JAL believed to be front runners.
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:33 am

Still amazed that AirAsia is considered a front runner given the continual losses within AirAsiaX.

Last 12 months AirAsiaX has been going backwards on most metrics
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:46 am

It's a tricky one because you'd think anyone would be better than the current outfit to run MH.

I'd imagine with D7 this would be a convenient excuse to exit long haul and actually have a home for its excessive A330 purchases, albeit some of them. Could see MH consolidate exclusively around these for regional trunk and long haul routes, leaving the narrow body operation to Air Asia. This assumes longhaul could be profitable and MH's shorthaul 737 routes are the current drain. They could even consolidate around an Air Asia brand and make shorthaul "Express" or some such.

JAL doesn't strike me as an innovator or turnaround specialist and I wouldn't bet on a good gel between Japanese business practices and Malaysian... but then again they have turned themselves around from a similar position to MH, minus the crash tragedies.

AFKL... I'd hope it was he KL side running the show but suspect this would be a repeat of their ill fated attempts with Alitalia all those years ago.

Malindo... errr I'm not even sure the Lion Air Group should be operating passenger services. Is that controversial? Maybe unfair but there are much higher quality bidders. Malindo could become Malaysia's second carrier if needed.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:43 am

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NZ321 wrote:
I am curious to know more about the proposal from "frontrunner" AK - certainly if it is to merge MH with Air Asia D7 rather than run two separate brands then I am not in favour. Air Asia's product on the A330 is highly questionable. Which is why they can't get traction with D7. I imagine they know that, and see this as an opportunity. But love to know their plans. I haven't seen anything online about this. Anybdy got any further info?

No one wants to comment officially but the merger is in essence going to result in a single LCC brand and a single premium carrier brand. D7 will no longer exist.

This would be a good fix. D7 doesn't work. So it could solve some things about the long haul end of things for Air Asia. Not sure how they would handle the terminals and interline though.
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:45 am

JAL does have recent turnaround experience, and crossover at many ports. That said even JAL partnered with Qantas for the LCC Jetstar Japan, which has been successful but had first mover advantage.

But I think full service turnaround is more needed at MH. No point going LCC up against the much bigger AK/D7.. That said the US/NZ/VA strategy of offering super inflexible light fares alongside more normal FSC offerings may work.

Either way though I'd think any foreign investor is going to want a massive write-off on aircraft (eg. A380s) and cost cuts (both staff and from the govt owned airports) before investing.

And this alone may push the Govt towards AirAsia and Malindo.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:02 pm

I'm baffled by the Malindo bid. Malindo has never made one ringgit of profit ever but somehow thinks it can turnaround MH?
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Good story that makes it clear that politics will guide any decisions about MAS, not economic or airline business needs. Some deal with Air Asia might be the most palatable outcome.


There may be five suitors for loss-making Malaysia Airlines Bhd (MAS), but the reality is that Khazanah Nasional Bhd, which owns the airline, is tied down by political constraints when dealing with it.

Allowing MAS to collapse is unthinkable. MAS cannot afford to fold despite chalking up losses year after year. The sale of a controlling stake in the national airline to a foreign airline so that it can be restructured and become operationally viable is also politically unpalatable.


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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:25 am

No doubt any solution will need to be one that is politically palatable.
Maybe an all Malay solution with Air Asia Group partnership is the solution that will appeal most, though i am not sure it will produce something that is commercially viable especially if MAS retains its large employee base.
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:51 am

D7/AK deal might be more palatable being Malaysian, but it probably results in more Jobe losses being a combination, which is less palatable.

Also not sure if the new Mahathir regime is a fan of Fernandes.
 
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Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:22 am

I haven't read every comment posted, but perhaps it's time for "Malaysia-Singapore Airlines" to re-appear...
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Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:32 am

md11sdf wrote:
I haven't read every comment posted, but perhaps it's time for "Malaysia-Singapore Airlines" to re-appear...

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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:47 am

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D7/AK deal might be more palatable being Malaysian, but it probably results in more Jobe losses being a combination, which is less palatable.

Also not sure if the new Mahathir regime is a fan of Fernandes.


Mahathir gave Tony his break by selling AirAsia to the guy. Mahathir's former minister was the first chairman of AirAsia. D7's chairman is another of Mahathir's former minister & ally, Rafidah Aziz.

Why do you think they're pushing for the merger with AirAsia even though most of Khazanah's board were not for it?

If an all Malaysian deal is needed, then Malindo's proposal would have been better. It would help the overcapacity while at the same time not create a monopoly.

usflyer msp wrote:
I'm baffled by the Malindo bid. Malindo has never made one ringgit of profit ever but somehow thinks it can turnaround MH?


See above. It allows Malindo to expand and increase revenue while at the same time not deal with overcapacity.
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Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:04 pm

Didn't MH and AK briefly have stakes in each other sometime in the early 2010s, which was then forced to be reverted or something like that? Why would another MH-AK partnership be allowed now if it didn't work out back then?
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Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:09 pm

In an official statement made by a senior official in the Malaysian government, it has been confirmed that a merger btw Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines is being considered.

This comes as Malaysia Airlines has been suffering continous loses over the past years and strong competition. With the global epedimic affecting all airlines, this has pushed the option to be on the table.

If the merger comes into fruitation, MAS B737MAX order will be dropped, a little state help will be involved and a fleet reshuffle.

MAS has a fleet of 81 aircraft (Boeing and Airbus) and Air Asia a fleet of 95 A320CEO/NEO along with 2 A321NEOs.

Source: https://simpleflying.com/air-asia-malay ... es-merger/


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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:15 pm

Here is the Reuters piece: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21Z15S

IMHO, a merger is not easy to execute due to the various interests. If not done properly, both airlines will probably die!
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:39 pm

That would be a very messy merger to put in place. So many hands in the pie to consider.

The concept likely works, as there really is no need for both carriers in most cases, but it will be a very painful process for many.
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:45 pm

I agree with everyone else - it would be really hard to carry out. The airlines' business models couldn't be more different, with MAS firmly a hub and spoke carrier and AirAsia point to point - and obviously MAS' more premium focus.

The ownership could be unified under a central parent company but it would be really difficult to merge the brands - you'd lose the strategically critical premium customers if MAS was absorbed by AirAsia, and obviously AirAsia's operating costs would increase considerably (if labour contracts were kept), while the other way around, not sure if all of AirAsia's routes would support MAS' more premium-oriented capacity (though I am not familiar with their network so please correct if I'm wrong).

Then there's the question of the fleet. I don't see this happening unless the brands are kept separate - that way they can moderate routes and their frequency but still maintain their respective clientèle
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:07 pm

What will the combined carrier be? Full service or low cost?
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:22 pm

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What will the combined carrier be? Full service or low cost?


In my opinion that could only work as holding with keeping both airlines/brands. Air Asia could take over some of the feeder flights then
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:34 pm

My guess is if this happens MAS short haul goes away except for maybe a few key destinations and Air Asia X goes away in favor of the Malaysia brand and service.
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:35 pm

The two biggest carrier of the country merging???
Hmm good for their business, but definitely not good for the market.
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Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:37 pm

Maybe MAS will be operating LH and Air Asia SH?


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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:40 pm

what about competition?
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:40 pm

The overlapping in the route network can be a big problem. That is one of the reason for the failure of Jetstar Pacific: most of BL's routes are served by Vietnam Airlines.
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:49 pm

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I agree with everyone else - it would be really hard to carry out. The airlines' business models couldn't be more different, with MAS firmly a hub and spoke carrier and AirAsia point to point - and obviously MAS' more premium focus.

MH will probably need to operate like SQ/MI and AK/D7 will be like TR (Scoot).

They will probably be quite independent of each other and maybe only co-operate on capacity planning initially. Any merger will probably have to be done in phases over several years.

jghealey wrote:
The ownership could be unified under a central parent company but it would be really difficult to merge the brands - you'd lose the strategically critical premium customers if MAS was absorbed by AirAsia, and obviously AirAsia's operating costs would increase considerably (if labour contracts were kept), while the other way around, not sure if all of AirAsia's routes would support MAS' more premium-oriented capacity (though I am not familiar with their network so please correct if I'm wrong).

Well the corporate exercise will necessarily be led by the Malaysian govt. sovereign wealth fund (Khazanah) as they may be the provider or bailout money. As such, they may be looking at various financing proposals.

It would not be too unexpected to see D7 and MH long haul operations to be consolidated. Popular destinations to Korea/Japan/China/Australia will be able to support multiple frequencies and both MH and D7 can coordinate their timetables as well as capacity to eliminate waste.

As both are Airbus A330 Ceo operators, economies of scale can be had with MRO. MAB Engineering is under utilised facilities can be kept busier.

Cargo operations will be interesting - MASKargo and Teleport may generate enough synergy to be a successful company on its own.

jghealey wrote:
Then there's the question of the fleet. I don't see this happening unless the brands are kept separate - that way they can moderate routes and their frequency but still maintain their respective clientèle

In future, D7's A330Neo orderbook can be used to feed both MH and D7 when the time comes to replace the A330 Ceo fleet. MH's current A330 fleet is largely leased and the leases are about to expire in the coming 4 years. Another possible use for the A330 Ceo fleet is P2F conversion for their freight operations.

I can foresee MH's B738 fleet disappearing as leases expire - these will easily be replaced by the surplus A320/A321s from Airasia Group's order book. MH will operate a very small trunk route premium service to ASEAN capitals as well as between East and West Malaysia.

The A350/A380 subfleets will also probably go if the MH network remains regional without any expansion of European long haul destinations.
 
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Re: Air Asia and Malaysia Airlines could merge

Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:54 am

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Here is the Reuters piece: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21Z15S

IMHO, a merger is not easy to execute due to the various interests. If not done properly, both airlines will probably die!
Slightly more believable than the Simply Flying report.
Note there had been previous rumours about just MAB and AirAsiaX.

AirAsia and AirAsiaX are separate companies with seperate stock market listings, although have cross and common ownership and directors - so this would need to be a tripartite merger
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Prime Minister appointed a new chairman for MAS effective July 1st. The person was president of national oil company (Petronas)

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/as ... a-airlines

"I believe that under his leadership, MAB will be able to be restructured and continue to expand as the national airline company which is resilient and has good governance.”
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:48 pm

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Prime Minister appointed a new chairman for MAS effective July 1st. The person was president of national oil company (Petronas)

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/as ... a-airlines

"I believe that under his leadership, MAB will be able to be restructured and continue to expand as the national airline company which is resilient and has good governance.”


Another restructuring? Is this # 2 or # 3 since MAS imploded following the MH370 mystery and the MH17 catastrophe?
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:42 am

MAS could always sell its long haul routes in Air Asia X and become a premium regional airline kept afloat by the government, connecting the cities that aren't serviced by other premium carriers in the region. I really don't consider there being a future for MAS by competing with SQ and Thai on both sides, so they need to take a unique position instead.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:21 am

mercure1 wrote:
Prime Minister appointed a new chairman for MAS effective July 1st. The person was president of national oil company (Petronas)

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/as ... a-airlines

"I believe that under his leadership, MAB will be able to be restructured and continue to expand as the national airline company which is resilient and has good governance.”

The Chairman's post is non-executive. So don't expect anything to come out of this - they are just pushing out the Petronas CEO and President to make way for someone more "obedient" to the governing party. It looks like a political appointment.
 
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:23 pm

Here comes some cash -- reported Khazanah looking to inject up to US$1.2bil fresh capital into the airline.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/bus ... rlines-aid
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:02 pm

More growth at Malaysian.

MH Cargo increases KUL-DXB-AMS A330 Freighter service to 2x weekly starting June 17.

- MH6126 KUL 23.00 - AMS 08.15+1 33X 14JUN20
- MH6124 KUL 21.40 - AMS 06.55+1 33X 17JUN20
 
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flee
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:37 am

LAXintl wrote:
Here comes some cash -- reported Khazanah looking to inject up to US$1.2bil fresh capital into the airline.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/bus ... rlines-aid

Khazanah made no RM5b funding commitment, says Malaysia Airlines
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/ ... a-airlines
 
factsonly
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:12 am

July 25, 2020: Malaysian operates to Europe again.

MH is operating an A330-200 passenger service to continental Europe today:

- MH8298 KUL-DWC-AMS Airbus A330-223 9M-MTZ


This is in addition to the 2x weekly A330-200F freighter service on this same route.


https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9m-mtz
 
Arion640
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Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:27 am

factsonly wrote:
July 25, 2020: Malaysian operates to Europe again.

MH is operating an A330-200 passenger service to continental Europe today:

- MH8298 KUL-DWC-AMS Airbus A330-223 9M-MTZ


This is in addition to the 2x weekly A330-200F freighter service on this same route.


https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9m-mtz


Is this a repatriation flight? Why not just go direct with the A350?

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