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janders wrote:Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
Obzerva wrote:janders wrote:Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
Interesting, given that there isn't currently a direct link between Paris and KUL.
Obzerva wrote:janders wrote:Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
Interesting, given that there isn't currently a direct link between Paris and KUL.
EmoticonsAllDay wrote:Maybe SIA could buy MAS like the pre-1972 era? SIA is in need of narrowbodies anyways and MAS has loads of them. Even the widebodies are of the same types operated by SIA (A330, A350, A380). This way MAS don't loose their dignity.
janders wrote:Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
terrificturk wrote:janders wrote:Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
surely one of the better scenarios - each of them. Both of them may still be the best bet.
A merger with Air Asia makes no real sense. A flip-flop LCC with premium cabin will never work. Others have failed trying to do so - and they failed having far higher yields.
janders wrote:Reuters story says Air France/KLM offered to purchase 49% stake in MAS, while JAL seeks a 25% stake.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mala ... SKBN1ZK0DX
TheFlyingDisk wrote:Meanwhile, there are reports that AirAsia is the frontrunner to take over MH, which means the end of MH branding as we know it. In exchange, Tony Fernandes is demanding that the Malaysian government take all the debts & retrenchment costs to the tune of around $1.96 billion, cancel the 737MAX orders, get rid of the A380s & the leased A332s, and most importantly the Malaysia government gets no golden shares which means no interference.
NZ321 wrote:I am curious to know more about the proposal from "frontrunner" AK - certainly if it is to merge MH with Air Asia D7 rather than run two separate brands then I am not in favour. Air Asia's product on the A330 is highly questionable. Which is why they can't get traction with D7. I imagine they know that, and see this as an opportunity. But love to know their plans. I haven't seen anything online about this. Anybdy got any further info?
terrificturk wrote:EmoticonsAllDay wrote:Maybe SIA could buy MAS like the pre-1972 era? SIA is in need of narrowbodies anyways and MAS has loads of them. Even the widebodies are of the same types operated by SIA (A330, A350, A380). This way MAS don't loose their dignity.
sorry, but you have no clue how Asia works ! In the case of Malaysia and its tiny neighbour, this is is a no-go for any politician. Selling MAS to SIA - even if the local politicians sell it as a merger - will never be aceptable to the majority of Malysian people. This is like a surrender note, a white flag. It will never happen.
flee wrote:NZ321 wrote:I am curious to know more about the proposal from "frontrunner" AK - certainly if it is to merge MH with Air Asia D7 rather than run two separate brands then I am not in favour. Air Asia's product on the A330 is highly questionable. Which is why they can't get traction with D7. I imagine they know that, and see this as an opportunity. But love to know their plans. I haven't seen anything online about this. Anybdy got any further info?
No one wants to comment officially but the merger is in essence going to result in a single LCC brand and a single premium carrier brand. D7 will no longer exist.
md11sdf wrote:I haven't read every comment posted, but perhaps it's time for "Malaysia-Singapore Airlines" to re-appear...
moa999 wrote:D7/AK deal might be more palatable being Malaysian, but it probably results in more Jobe losses being a combination, which is less palatable.
Also not sure if the new Mahathir regime is a fan of Fernandes.
usflyer msp wrote:I'm baffled by the Malindo bid. Malindo has never made one ringgit of profit ever but somehow thinks it can turnaround MH?
Ziyulu wrote:What will the combined carrier be? Full service or low cost?
jghealey wrote:I agree with everyone else - it would be really hard to carry out. The airlines' business models couldn't be more different, with MAS firmly a hub and spoke carrier and AirAsia point to point - and obviously MAS' more premium focus.
jghealey wrote:The ownership could be unified under a central parent company but it would be really difficult to merge the brands - you'd lose the strategically critical premium customers if MAS was absorbed by AirAsia, and obviously AirAsia's operating costs would increase considerably (if labour contracts were kept), while the other way around, not sure if all of AirAsia's routes would support MAS' more premium-oriented capacity (though I am not familiar with their network so please correct if I'm wrong).
jghealey wrote:Then there's the question of the fleet. I don't see this happening unless the brands are kept separate - that way they can moderate routes and their frequency but still maintain their respective clientèle
flee wrote:Slightly more believable than the Simply Flying report.Here is the Reuters piece: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21Z15S
IMHO, a merger is not easy to execute due to the various interests. If not done properly, both airlines will probably die!
mercure1 wrote:Prime Minister appointed a new chairman for MAS effective July 1st. The person was president of national oil company (Petronas)
https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/as ... a-airlines
"I believe that under his leadership, MAB will be able to be restructured and continue to expand as the national airline company which is resilient and has good governance.”
mercure1 wrote:Prime Minister appointed a new chairman for MAS effective July 1st. The person was president of national oil company (Petronas)
https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/as ... a-airlines
"I believe that under his leadership, MAB will be able to be restructured and continue to expand as the national airline company which is resilient and has good governance.”
LAXintl wrote:Here comes some cash -- reported Khazanah looking to inject up to US$1.2bil fresh capital into the airline.
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/bus ... rlines-aid
factsonly wrote:July 25, 2020: Malaysian operates to Europe again.
MH is operating an A330-200 passenger service to continental Europe today:
- MH8298 KUL-DWC-AMS Airbus A330-223 9M-MTZ
This is in addition to the 2x weekly A330-200F freighter service on this same route.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9m-mtz