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Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:49 pm

A freight dog coworker gave me a heads up on this.

Fars Air 747-200F EP-FAB had a bit of a loading incident at Doha this morning


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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:53 pm

Wow, is this a DC8 in the background? :-)
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:59 pm

"WHEEEEE" - plane in 1st pic
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:58 pm

N14AZ wrote:
Wow, is this a DC8 in the background? :-)


I think it's TT-DFJ
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:15 pm

This has to be a write-off
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:22 pm

LDRA wrote:
This has to be a write-off


Depends on the damage. Planes are hard to come by for Iranian airlines, so if the fix isn't to expensive, it will be done.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:26 pm

Love the first pic!

Why would it be a write-off? The plane sat on its tail, unlikely very hard...
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:26 pm

LDRA wrote:
This has to be a write-off


Why does this have to be a write-off?
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:27 pm

LDRA wrote:
This has to be a write-off


How? It's not like it had major structural damage..
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:41 pm

emuwarveteran wrote:
"WHEEEEE" - plane in 1st pic


Didn't see it until you said something, now that's all I can see.
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:41 pm

A VC10 did this when being refuelled at Brize. It never flew again. With all that weight at the rear it would have come down pretty hard.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:06 pm

goosebayguy wrote:
A VC10 did this when being refuelled at Brize. It never flew again. With all that weight at the rear it would have come down pretty hard.

Anyone who has ever been to the playground knows that this 747 could have either tipped over veeeery slowly, causing only a minor bump, or it could have totally wrecked it's ass, pardon the language. So unless you have been there or seen the video, there is no way you can tell if this is a write-off or a quick fix.
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:07 pm

LDRA wrote:
This has to be a write-off


I don´t think so. There have been several similar incidents and none of the planes involved were w/o.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:09 pm

If anything I hope the guys responsible for this are being "written off".
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:18 pm

So, what do they do to "un" tip it? Basically pull it down from the front?
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:49 pm

A stretch 8? I think its great that Iran is till flying the 747, but to see an "8" still out there getting her morning workout is even better.

My compliments to the mechanics who do miracles to keep these ladies in the air. If I ever run across these guys, I'm buying. I just want to hear the different stories they have on how they kept them up.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:47 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
So, what do they do to "un" tip it? Basically pull it down from the front?

This aircraft was improperly loaded as it in appears the second photo showing that cargo is loaded past the side cargo door putting too much weight on the of the aircraft. Cargo should have been loaded also in the forward section of the aircraft to prevent this from happening. To right the aircraft the cargo must be moved and secured in the forward end of the aircraft reducing the weight on the rear of the aircraft. If it done correctly the aircraft will almost right itself and if done correctly the aircraft will not slam down on it's nose gear. The only other option is to put a strap around the rear the aircraft after removing the cargo through the side door. This would much more labor intensive and would risk more damage to the aircraft and possibly cargo. The aircraft should be repairable if it did not come shaming down on it's tail end resulting in structural damage that would require extensive repairs. :old:
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:59 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
So, what do they do to "un" tip it? Basically pull it down from the front?


727s were famous for tipping like this. I remember reading an Airliners magazine from about 15 years ago where it was said a 27 could usually be gently righted by having a couple of people walk slowly towards the front of the cabin. That 150kgs or so was all that was needed to get back into balance, usually undamaged. Hopefully for this classic 747 that the damage is little to none.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:18 pm

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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:36 pm

emuwarveteran wrote:
"WHEEEEE" - plane in 1st pic

The plane was left with it's mouth wide open... :lol:
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:57 pm

LDRA wrote:
This has to be a write-off


If there is anyone in this world who can keep an aircraft airworthy it's Iranian aviation engineers and mechanics...
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:12 pm

Boeing727 wrote:
If there is anyone in this world who can keep an aircraft airworthy it's Iranian aviation engineers and mechanics...


You got that right
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:07 am

Could all have been prevented with a tail stand or strapping down the nose gear like FedEx does
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:12 am

Hey, the old timer is just trying to have a time of its life in the first picture XD! Such a rare sight to see a 747-200F these days!
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:31 am

In the first pic it looks like a baby bird opening its mouth waiting to be fed!
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:05 am

This is the only aircraft in Fars Air's fleet.
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:58 am

Was the QAS (GHA) not using a tail stand?
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:04 am

Only reason if this plane becomes a write-off is that Iran is unable to source parts due to sanctions. But I think they will make a valiant effort to save this bird, since its used by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to run supplies to Syria.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:48 am

LDRA wrote:
This has to be a write-off


Congrats on being the first to post the obligatory "write off" joke for this incident. I always appreciate a chuckle with my morning coffee.

It surprises me how many on this forum cannot spot this joke every time it appears (and it always will.) I am not saying that there are not some posters who are genuinely asking if a certain incident will result in a write-off, however it is pretty clear from the way this one was posted that it was done tonge-in-cheek. Lighten up everyone.
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:14 am

Apparently this is common occurrence even with established airlines. Most distinctive was United's then-new livery on B744 when "wheeee-ing" in SYD few weeks after launching.
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:16 am

Birdwatching wrote:
goosebayguy wrote:
A VC10 did this when being refuelled at Brize. It never flew again. With all that weight at the rear it would have come down pretty hard.

Anyone who has ever been to the playground knows that this 747 could have either tipped over veeeery slowly, causing only a minor bump, or it could have totally wrecked it's ass, pardon the language. So unless you have been there or seen the video, there is no way you can tell if this is a write-off or a quick fix.

True, we could hardly judge from photo if the airframe is damaged.

@goosebayguy, I think you are referring to this: http://www.vc10.net/Airframes/cn_826__XR806.html
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:22 am

It was improperly UNLOADED
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:43 am

Kinda reminds me of the Southern Air 747 at Mojave trying to fly again. :cloudnine:

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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:02 am

D'oh A
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:24 pm

N415XJ wrote:
In the first pic it looks like a baby bird opening its mouth waiting to be fed!


More like a Great White Shark lunging at a piece of chum with its mouth wide open. :scared:
 
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Re: Iranian 747 tail tips in Doha

Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:01 pm

According to FR24, it flew back to THR this morning. Also according to FR24, it was a regular between THR and DAM in the past weeks...
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