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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:51 pm

Miami Sub-Regional

Arizona State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KPHX/KMIA

Florida Gulf Coast and Central Florida are traveling via ground to Miami.

Eugene Sub-Regional:

Indiana: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KBMG/KEUG
Texas: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KAUS/KEUG

College Station Sub-Regional:

Marquette: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KMKE/KCLL
Dayton: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KDAY/KCLL

Columbia (Charlotte) Sub-Regional:

Florida State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KTLH/KCLT
Bucknell: (unknown)

Louisville Sub-Regional

Michigan: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KYIP/KSDF
Kansas State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KMHK/KSDF
2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), 739 (DL), 712 (DL)
Next: AA: DFW-PHL (752), PHL-MIA (763), MIA-LAX (77W), LAX-DFW (789)
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:08 pm

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Columbia (Charlotte) Sub-Regional:

Florida State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KTLH/KCLT
Bucknell: Unknown


I think this is likely Belmont: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KBNA/KCLT
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:35 am

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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:58 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Robert Morris women's basketball charter to their first round game in Louisville:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AJI ... /KPIT/KSDF

Go Colonials! :)
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:25 am

Why did Florida State fly to CLT, a 90-minute drive to Columbia vs. flying straight to CAE?
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:41 am

Colgate took a DL 752 to CMH from SYR
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KSYR/KCMH
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:12 am

xjcsa wrote:
I used to work in the travel agency office that handles all this travel (they still do). I don't have any inside info on anything happening this year, but I have quite a bit of knowledge about the process. Happy to answer any questions you might have about how it all works, including NCAA rules/policies and how decisions are made.


I want to hear about it! :-)

Is there a bidding process for X number of flights by the carriers?
Is there a "war room" somewhere with the NCAA, the travel agency, and the participating carriers watching the Selection Sunday show and assigning aircraft / carriers for specific flights?
Do the teams have any influence over carrier, aircraft, and departure airport? For example, my SEC Tournament Champion Auburn Tigers (War Eagle!) regularly fly from Montgomery, AL (MGM) and Columbus, GA (CSG), as well as Auburn-Opelika, AL (AUO) for smaller teams / shorter flights. Does the team or the travel agency decide departure airport?

Good photos from Auburn MBB Twitter of the team's arrival at SLC: https://twitter.com/AuburnMBB/status/11 ... 2167337984
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:33 am

FlyKBHM wrote:
Good photos from Auburn MBB Twitter of the team's arrival at SLC: https://twitter.com/AuburnMBB/status/11 ... 2167337984
Traveled on an Transavia 737 with Sun Country titles.


Seems like that was one busy plane the past few days; it also flew down to Waco to take Baylor to SLC, then came up here to Logan this morning to pick up Utah State.
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:20 am

men's are uploaded. Women's working now...reminder: GOOGLE DOC HERE: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oMxQbAr2truipDtH5VLjuYD9NduuQ84GoXojODHsmtw/edit?usp=sharing
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:40 am

Chapmads wrote:
Why did Florida State fly to CLT, a 90-minute drive to Columbia vs. flying straight to CAE?

Charlotte is hosting South Carolina for the women's first round since they are hosting the men.
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:55 am

Women's now updated. Only thing missing Friday is Towson to BDL
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:49 am

jco613 wrote:
Women's now updated. Only thing missing Friday is Towson to BDL


Towson bused up to Hartford:

https://twitter.com/TowsonTigers/status ... 5340607490
2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), 739 (DL), 712 (DL)
Next: AA: DFW-PHL (752), PHL-MIA (763), MIA-LAX (77W), LAX-DFW (789)
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:55 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Mercer looks to be the only team that's flying to the Iowa City site (they're actually using CID, since IOW can't seem to support 737s/A320s):

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KATL/KCID

The other two teams traveling to Iowa City - Drake and Missouri - are likely busing; Drake is less than two hours from the Iowa campus and Missouri is about 230 miles away.


I didn't think that Missouri Women's BB would fly to CID, but they actually did w/ an Elite Airways CRJ2:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KCOU/KCID
 
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Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:08 pm

Found UC Irvine to SJC, as I suspected they were just longer than the bus requirement, but they were later to arrive since it was such a short flight all within the time zone:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KLGB/KSJC
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:13 pm

FlyKBHM wrote:
xjcsa wrote:
I used to work in the travel agency office that handles all this travel (they still do). I don't have any inside info on anything happening this year, but I have quite a bit of knowledge about the process. Happy to answer any questions you might have about how it all works, including NCAA rules/policies and how decisions are made.


I want to hear about it! :-)

Is there a bidding process for X number of flights by the carriers?
Is there a "war room" somewhere with the NCAA, the travel agency, and the participating carriers watching the Selection Sunday show and assigning aircraft / carriers for specific flights?
Do the teams have any influence over carrier, aircraft, and departure airport? For example, my SEC Tournament Champion Auburn Tigers (War Eagle!) regularly fly from Montgomery, AL (MGM) and Columbus, GA (CSG), as well as Auburn-Opelika, AL (AUO) for smaller teams / shorter flights. Does the team or the travel agency decide departure airport?

Good photos from Auburn MBB Twitter of the team's arrival at SLC: https://twitter.com/AuburnMBB/status/11 ... 2167337984
Traveled on an Transavia 737 with Sun Country titles.


Sure!

There is indeed a small war room. It has whiteboard walls, and is divided into MBB/WBB, then a section for other charters (NIT, hockey, DII/DIII MBB/WBB, etc). The war room is at the travel agency; the NCAA has a manager on site during the first week of the tournament (the same manager who oversees things from NCAA HQ the rest of the year).

Within each section is a list of the teams needing charters, with the city pairs they need to fly. Each item on the list then has bids listed below it; frequently 2-3 bids per flight (airline and $$ amount listed on the board), with the winning bid circled once that decision is made. So each flight segment is bid on by the charter carriers - but frequently those bids are more complicated than that, i.e. a package deal where those prices are only good as a package deal with some other segments, due to working on efficiencies with empty legs, etc.

There is a more-or-less dedicated fleet pre-reserved by NCAA (and Short's Travel, which handles all air travel - both commercial and charter - for the NCAA); these aircraft are basically on hold for the peak days. Other aircraft are pulled in as needed.

Teams don't have much say over aircraft, although the size of the party traveling is a significant factor in that decision. The NCAA pays for a total travel party of 75, which must include a certain number of band members, cheerleaders, and a mascot; if any of those slots isn't filled with an appropriate person, the NCAA-paid party is reduced accordingly. The team is able to bring a larger party, but must pay for the extra people on a pro-rated cost basis; this number is *highly* variable.

The team is able to request airports, and those requests are usually granted, although obviously the airport has to be capable of handling the aircraft (this evaluation is handled by the air carrier involved). In a few circumstances a team may have to use a different airport if it's reasonably close and it would save a lot of money (i.e. if it eliminates an empty leg because an aircraft happens to already be at that airport).

The travel party is frequently split up by the school; coaches and players travel to the venue two days before the game, and band/cheer/etc travel the day before. Typically everyone travels back to the school together though, for obvious reasons. So the outbound is sometimes two charters, or sometimes band/cheer/etc wind up going commercial.

Teams occasionally fly commercial as well, when there are enough seats on a nonstop flight to accommodate. This is most common on Southwest nonstop routes, especially on high-density routes in California (i.e. SFO to LAX). There are usually a couple of these per year, or at least were in my time at Short's.

In theory, DI MBB/WBB are handled the same as all other DI sports, rules-wise (and the same as DII/DIII sports, with the exception of higher mileage radii for DII/DIII sports). This means, again in theory, charters are only used when acceptable commercial flights are not available, including connecting flights. But in reality, such commercial flights are rarely available for such large groups on short notice around spring break, and connecting flights are never (in my experience) used for DI MBB/WBB because, since the opponent is almost certainly on a charter, it would open NCAA to complaints that connecting flights (or other inconveniences, like having to travel too far to an airport or taking flights at non-preferred times) would put the team at a competitive disadvantage. So commercial is only used for DI MBB/WBB if it's pretty much perfect.

NIT is a bit different (and yes, NCAA handles NIT travel since they bought the NIT several years ago). Travel parties for the NIT are only 25 people; if the school wants to bring band/cheer/additional people, it's at the school's expense. And NIT teams frequently fly commercial, including sometimes on connecting flights. The school always has the option to pay the difference to take a charter, subject to aircraft availability (such charters still have to be arranged through Short's, unless the school owns the airplane). Schools in the NIT frequently do have budgets capable of handling paying for an upgrade to a charter, and they frequently do so (but far from always).

Back to NCAA MBB/WBB DI, after each game, the losing team typically flies straight home that night. There's generally an airplane sitting at the airport waiting to take whichever team loses home, with manifests etc ready to go either way. After the first round, winning teams get their return flight information for after the second round, since everyone goes home after the second round.

Shared charters between teams are rare (but not unheard of), and basically never happen at the DI MBB/WBB level. They're also rare for men's hockey, since they don't want a brawl on the plane. They tend to happen more with large individual-sport teams like DI track.
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:42 pm

fsx98 wrote:
I didn't think that Missouri Women's BB would fly to CID, but they actually did w/ an Elite Airways CRJ2:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KCOU/KCID


Oooof. Poor girls - I would rather sit on a bus for 6 hours than spend 45 minutes in a CRJ2.

drdisque wrote:
Found UC Irvine to SJC, as I suspected they were just longer than the bus requirement, but they were later to arrive since it was such a short flight all within the time zone:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KLGB/KSJC


Is there a rule that bans charter flights from SNA? You can throw a rock from UCI's campus to SNA, and a short flight shouldn't impact payload even with the 5700 ft runway.
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:00 am

xjcsa wrote:
The travel party is frequently split up by the school; coaches and players travel to the venue two days before the game, and band/cheer/etc travel the day before. Typically everyone travels back to the school together though, for obvious reasons. So the outbound is sometimes two charters, or sometimes band/cheer/etc wind up going commercial.


Excellent post. Thanks for putting it together. Let me add only one thing: the band/cheerleader situation is very distance-depdendent. For longer flights, where a bigger plane is required for stage length reasons, it's fairly common for the band and cheerleaders to travel with the band. For charters on the short end of flying distance (less than about 600 miles), it's also not uncommon for band and cheerleaders to bus to the game and then take the charter back with the team.

Sadly, it's time to start sending losers home for the men:

Belmont: DL M90 JAX-BNA https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KJAX/KBNA

Yale: WQ 734 JAX-BDL https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KJAX/KBDL

Bradley: Bus

Louisville: SY 738 DSM-SDF https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KDSM/KSDF

New Mexico State: WQ 734 SLC-LRU https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KSLC/KLRU

Also, I'm not sure anyone posted the flights after yesterday's games:

North Carolina Central: LL 738 DAY-RDU https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KDAY/KRDU
North Dakota State: LL 738 DAY-CAE https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KDAY/KCAE

Arizona State: LL 738 DAY-TUL https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KDAY/KTUL
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:53 am

Women's Basketball Charters

Waco Sub-Regional
North Carolina: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KRDU/KACT
Cal-Berkeley: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KOAK/KACT

Raleigh Sub-Regional
Kentucky: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KLEX/KRDU
Maine: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KBGR/KRDU
Princeton: Unknown

Syracuse Sub-Regional
South Dakota State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KFSD/KSYR

South Bend Sub-Regional
Bethune-Cookman: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KDAB/KSBN

Ames Sub-Regional
New Mexico State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KLRU/KDSM
DePaul may have bused from Chicago; couldn't find anything for Missouri State

Palo Alto Sub-Regional
BYU: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KPVU/KSJC

Eugene Sub-Regional
Gonzaga: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KGEG/KEUG

College Park Sub-Regional
UCLA: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KLAX/KBWI
Tennessee: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KTYS/KBWI
2019: DAL, MCI, PHX, LAS, DFW, SAT, ORD, SLC, SEA, DTW; B73G (WN x3), B738 (WN, AA, DL), A20N (NK), MD83 (AA), B788 (AA x2), CS1 (DL), 739 (DL), 712 (DL)
Next: AA: DFW-PHL (752), PHL-MIA (763), MIA-LAX (77W), LAX-DFW (789)
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:11 am

LittleFokker wrote:
fsx98 wrote:
I didn't think that Missouri Women's BB would fly to CID, but they actually did w/ an Elite Airways CRJ2:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KCOU/KCID


Oooof. Poor girls - I would rather sit on a bus for 6 hours than spend 45 minutes in a CRJ2.


In my experience flying CRJs (all were from AA), the seats were uncomfortable in hip room, and ceiling clearance is bothersome as you need to watch your head when getting up from the seat. While I can tolerate a six-hour road trip (most notably to Chicago), a short, 1-hour flight to either ORD or DFW on a CRJ would be indifferent. But flying in an E175 (also from AA) would be a bit more tolerable, as I found those seats to be a bit wider. Wondering what a difference would make if the Lady Tigers from Mizzou had flown the E175 over the CRJ2...
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:36 am

LittleFokker wrote:
fsx98 wrote:
I didn't think that Missouri Women's BB would fly to CID, but they actually did w/ an Elite Airways CRJ2:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KCOU/KCID


Oooof. Poor girls - I would rather sit on a bus for 6 hours than spend 45 minutes in a CRJ2.

drdisque wrote:
Found UC Irvine to SJC, as I suspected they were just longer than the bus requirement, but they were later to arrive since it was such a short flight all within the time zone:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KLGB/KSJC


Is there a rule that bans charter flights from SNA? You can throw a rock from UCI's campus to SNA, and a short flight shouldn't impact payload even with the 5700 ft runway.


I don't think it's an outright ban, but I don't know where you'd park an unscheduled 737. The GA/FBO ramps are just wall-to-wall biz jets. They could maybe park in one of the overnight parking positions southwest of the airline terminal, but I don't know if the FBO is allowed to work over there nor do I know if they have an airstair capable of reaching a 737. UC Irvine to LGB is only a ~30 minute drive and you don't have to deal with the logistical hurdles of running a charter 737 in and out of SNA.

It's also possible that Kaiser Air didn't have the SNA noise abatement procedure in its manuals or their management just didn't want to deal with it.
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:36 pm

Loser returns for today:

Marquette: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KBDL/KMKE
Montana: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KDSM/KMSO
ODU: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KBDL/KORF


That's it for the Thursday games, everything else appears filled out on the sheet
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:32 pm

Nevada returning home after losing to Florida:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KDSM/KRNO
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:53 pm

Here is Old Dominion flying back to VA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KBDL/KORF
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:35 am

Friday men's losers . . .

North Dakota State: WQ 734 CAE-FAR https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KCAE/KFAR

VCU: WQ 734 CAE-RIC https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KCAE/KRIC

Gardner Webb: Bus

Ole Miss: SY 738 CAE-TUP https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCAE/KTUP

Mississippi State: SY 738 SJC-GTR https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KSJC/KGTR

Saint Louis: LL 738 SJC-STL https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KSJC/KSTL

Wisconsin: Kaiser 73G SJC-MSN https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KSJC/KMSN

Kansas State: SY 738 SJC-MHK https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KSJC/KMHK

Arizona State: G4 320 TUL-PHX https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KTUL/KPHX (It's interesting that they didn't go to IWA given the extensive G4 operation there.)

Northern Kentucky: SY 738 TUL-CVG https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KTUL/KCVG

Iowa State: WQ 733 TUL-DSM https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KTUL/KDSM

Georgia State: DL M90 TUL-ATL https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KTUL/KATL

Cincinnati: Bus

Colgate: SY 738 CMH-SYR https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCMH/KSYR

Iona: SY 738 CMH-HPN https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCMH/KHPN

Utah State: SY 738 CMH-LGU https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCMH/KLGU

In the round of 32 (much like the Elite 8), travel often takes place sooner after games because everyone is traveling, so more charter preparations can occur before games finish. Here are flights for today's men's games:

LSU: WQ 733 JAX-BTR https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KJAX/KBTR
Maryland: WQ 733 JAX-BWI https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KJAX/KBWI

Kentucky: SY 738 JAX-LEX https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KJAX/KLEX
Wofford: Bus

Michigan State: WQ 734 DSM-LAN https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KDSM/KLAN
Minnesota: Bus

Florida: LL 738 DSM-GNV https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK ... /KDSM/KGNV
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:20 pm

A little behind but all men's and women's (minus two missing flights) from 1st round are updated here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oMxQbAr2truipDtH5VLjuYD9NduuQ84GoXojODHsmtw/edit?usp=sharing

will have an update hopefully tonight!
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:28 pm

jco613 wrote:
A little behind but all men's and women's (minus two missing flights) from 1st round are updated here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oMxQbAr2truipDtH5VLjuYD9NduuQ84GoXojODHsmtw/edit?usp=sharing

will have an update hopefully tonight!


Thanks for putting this together. It looks like you’re missing Montana, who flew SY DSM-MSO (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KDSM/KMSO). (I think this may also be upthread.)
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Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:50 pm

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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:12 am

Sunday men's flights:

Iowa WQ 733 CMH-CID https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KCMH/KCID
Tennessee WQ 733 CMH-TYS https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KCMH/KTYS

North Carolina: WQ 733 CMH-RDU https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KCMH/KRDU
Washington: SY 738 CMH-BFI https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCMH/KBFI

Texas Tech: Likely WQ 733 TUL-LBB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KTUL/KLBB, though there is also a G4 charter scheduled later in the evening

Duke: Bus
UCF: G4 320 CAE-SFB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KCAE/KSFB
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:18 pm

Additional Sunday men's flights:

Liberty: WQ 733 SJC-LYH https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KSJC/KLYH
Virginia Tech:

Buffalo: WQ 734 TUL-BUF https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KTUL/KBUF

Houston: G4 320 TUL-HOU https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KTUL/KHOU
Ohio State:

Oklahoma: SY 738 CAE-OKC https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCAE/KOKC
Virginia: G4 320 CAE-CHO https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY ... /KCAE/KCHO

Oregon:
UC Irvine:
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:59 pm

Three more from yesterday's men's games (now we are missing only Oregon)

UC Irvine: Kasier 73G SJC-LGB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KSJC/KLGB

Virginia Tech: SY 738 SJC-ROA https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KSJC/KROA

Ohio State: SY 738 TUL-CMH https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KTUL/KCMH
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:23 pm

Villanova return (remember they chartered the Ameristar Corporate Shuttle 732 on the way to BDL as well): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AJI ... /KBDL/KPHL

UC Irvine: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KSJC/KLGB
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:29 pm

drdisque wrote:
Villanova return (remember they chartered the Ameristar Corporate Shuttle 732 on the way to BDL as well): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AJI ... /KBDL/KPHL


Good catch. I didn't even check because of the distance, but that makes sense given New York traffic.

I think this Kaiser flight OAK-EUG may be Oregon: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KOAK/KEUG Does SJC have a curfew? That would explain going up to OAK.
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iflykpdx
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:33 pm

SJC has a noise curfew from 2330-0630
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
drdisque wrote:
Villanova return (remember they chartered the Ameristar Corporate Shuttle 732 on the way to BDL as well): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AJI ... /KBDL/KPHL


Good catch. I didn't even check because of the distance, but that makes sense given New York traffic.

I think this Kaiser flight OAK-EUG may be Oregon: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KOAK/KEUG Does SJC have a curfew? That would explain going up to OAK.


I didn't realize there were any passenger 732s still flying in the US. I know there are some in northern Canada
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm

Rbgso wrote:
Cubsrule wrote:
drdisque wrote:
Villanova return (remember they chartered the Ameristar Corporate Shuttle 732 on the way to BDL as well): https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AJI ... /KBDL/KPHL


Good catch. I didn't even check because of the distance, but that makes sense given New York traffic.

I think this Kaiser flight OAK-EUG may be Oregon: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAI ... /KOAK/KEUG Does SJC have a curfew? That would explain going up to OAK.


I didn't realize there were any passenger 732s still flying in the US. I know there are some in northern Canada


It's in a Corporate Shuttle seating configuration, seating 60 in old domestic F seats - http://www.ameristarjet.com/boeing737-200.htm
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:12 pm

Nebraska returning home after losing to TCU in the NIT:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KFTW/KLNK
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:05 pm

If we're going to do more NIT stuff:

Arkansas home from Indiana: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KBMG/KFYV
Wichita State home from Clemson: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KGSP/KICT
Harvard home from NC State: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CSQ ... /KRDU/KBED
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:55 pm

Sweet 16 begins:

Oregon to Louisville: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KEUG/KSDF
Virginia to Louisville: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCHO/KSDF

SY 738 is currently positioning to YIP to presumably take Michigan to Anaheim, but no flight plan departing has been filed yet.
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:24 pm

More Sweet 16:

Virginia SY 738 CHO-SDF https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KCHO/KSDF

Tennessee Elite CR7 TYS-SDF https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MNU ... /KTYS/KSDF (likely school-paid, as it's well less than 350 miles)

Florida State WQ 734 TLH-LBB-LGB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KLBB/KLGB
Gonzaga SY 738 GEG-LGB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KGEG/KLGB

Michigan: SY 738 YIP-LGB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KYIP/KLGB
Texas Tech WQ 733 LBB-LGB https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KLBB/KLGB
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:46 pm

I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:01 pm

LSU WQ 733: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KBTR/KIAD
Duke WQ 734: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWQ ... /KRDU/KIAD

Only teams left are UNC and Michigan State (Virginia Tech and Purdue are almost definitely bus trips)
 
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:34 pm

 
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Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:49 pm

 
Cubsrule
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:48 pm

Thursday Sweet 16 losers:

Oregon: SY 738 SDF-GEG https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KSDF/KEUG

Tennessee: Bus?

Florida State: SY 738 LGB-TLH https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KLGB/KTLH
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:47 pm

And here's Michigan, flying SY LGB-YIP https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KLGB/KYIP
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:37 pm

Sorry for the radio silence folks...I will try to update everything in the spreadsheet tonight!

RE: Arizona State...since they are an independent program (amazing they are in the tournament after a record just 3 years in college hockey), they may have elected to fly commercial to PHL for some reason. Just a guess.
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:30 am

jco613 wrote:
Sorry for the radio silence folks...I will try to update everything in the spreadsheet tonight!

RE: Arizona State...since they are an independent program (amazing they are in the tournament after a record just 3 years in college hockey), they may have elected to fly commercial to PHL for some reason. Just a guess.


Conference affiliation - or lack thereof - shouldn't be a factor since the NCAA is paying for these flights.
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:01 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
jco613 wrote:
Sorry for the radio silence folks...I will try to update everything in the spreadsheet tonight!

RE: Arizona State...since they are an independent program (amazing they are in the tournament after a record just 3 years in college hockey), they may have elected to fly commercial to PHL for some reason. Just a guess.


Conference affiliation - or lack thereof - shouldn't be a factor since the NCAA is paying for these flights.


guess my point is they flew commercial for some 32,000+ miles this season. They may well have elected to fly commercial this trip. Maybe burn their FF miles!
 
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Re: 2019 NCAA (and other) Tournament Charters

Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:54 am

jco613 wrote:
Sorry for the radio silence folks...I will try to update everything in the spreadsheet tonight!

RE: Arizona State...since they are an independent program (amazing they are in the tournament after a record just 3 years in college hockey), they may have elected to fly commercial to PHL for some reason. Just a guess.


Actually this is Arizona State fourth season playing NCAA hockey, admittedly they played some ACHA teams in season one. Hockey is one sport that a new entry can make huge strides quickly, for example Northern Michigan played in the NCAA championship game in season four, losing to North Dakota. Penn State also made the NCAA tournament in their fourth season.

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