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Birmingham Michigan 1968

Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:23 pm

Back in the summer of 1968 there was a commuter airline called Standard Airways that Served Pot Huron, Pontiac and Birmingham from Detroit. The airport code for Birmingham was UCR does anyone know what airport that might have been back then. At first I thought maybe Oakland/Troy airport but that airport is in Troy Michigan.
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Re: Birmingham Michigan 1968

Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:24 am

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gclookup?Q=UCR

There is no airport with that code listed.

I also can find no evidence that there was ever an airport in Birmingham, as historicaerials.com shows nothing but suburbanization back into the 50's. I tried looking around, but nothing.

https://airport.globefeed.com/US_Nearest_Airport_Result.asp?lat=42.5467012&lng=-83.2113192&place=Birmingham,%20Michigan,%20US&sr=gp

Not knowing Michigan at all, I can't tell you more.
 
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Re: Birmingham Michigan 1968

Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:58 am

It probably was what became Oakland County-Troy Airport... in 1968 it was "Berz" on nav charts but it never had that code... 68 no idea, 77 it had 7D2, and 2005 became VLL

Wouldn't be the first time that an airline used a non-existant code internally. It is just outside Birmingham's town limits and Troy didn't extend that far in 1968.

And before anyone gets confused: There was an airport called Berz-Macomb in the 70s that was further north, it is not the same as the Berz that became VLL.
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Re: Birmingham Michigan 1968

Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:24 am

northstardc4m wrote:
It probably was what became Oakland County-Troy Airport... in 1968 it was "Berz" on nav charts but it never had that code... 68 no idea, 77 it had 7D2, and 2005 became VLL

Wouldn't be the first time that an airline used a non-existant code internally. It is just outside Birmingham's town limits and Troy didn't extend that far in 1968.


Could have been an IATA code for an airport that had an alphanumeric FAA LID.
 
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Re: Birmingham Michigan 1968

Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:45 am

northstardc4m wrote:
It probably was what became Oakland County-Troy Airport... in 1968 it was "Berz" on nav charts but it never had that code... 68 no idea, 77 it had 7D2, and 2005 became VLL

Wouldn't be the first time that an airline used a non-existant code internally. It is just outside Birmingham's town limits and Troy didn't extend that far in 1968.

And before anyone gets confused: There was an airport called Berz-Macomb in the 70s that was further north, it is not the same as the Berz that became VLL.


Don't know if it makes a difference but UCR is the code used in the OAG for this airport.
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Re: Birmingham Michigan 1968

Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:39 am

One famous story about Oakland Troy Airport: In the late 1960s, the developers of Somerset Mall (now the south part of Somerset Collection) invited the presidents of Saks Fifth Avenue and Bonwit Teller to Michigan, to see the site of the mall; the developers wanted Saks and Bonwits to become anchor tenants of the mall. They took a corporate aircraft to Oakland Troy Airport, which is just a mile south of Somerset Mall.

Instead of taking the Saks and Bonwits executives directly to the site where the mall was planned, the developer of the mall drove them through Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills, so the Bonwits and Saks executives could see the very wealthy neighborhoods that are just a few miles from the mall. By the time the Bonwits and Saks executives got to the site of the then-planned mall, they realized how much wealth was close to the mall, and subsequently agreed to be anchor tenants at Somerset.

Had the developer taken the Saks and Bonwits executives directly to the mall site, all they would have seen would have been the Ford Tractor plant (at the southwest corner of Coolidge Road and 15 Mile / Maple) and undeveloped land - and they almost certainly would not have agreed to build stores at Somerset.

After Bonwit Teller liquidated in the early 1990s, their store was torn down, and a much bigger Neiman Marcus store was built in its place.

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