mxaxai wrote:

Short question: What fuel does Cape Air use? The data sheet says "100/130, 100LL and UL100" work, but with leaded AvGas being expensive, toxic and on its way out, I'd question how future-proof its use in commercial aviation is. Is unleaded fuel widely available at the airports they fly to? What about Jet-A (if they had bought a turboprop)?

Avgas is expensive and on its way out? You just made that up out of nowhere, right?

Cape Air uses 100LL, it’s available at nearly every airport in the country, and will continue to be until, well, we run out of oil, probably.

WeatherPilot wrote:

WayexTDI wrote:

WeatherPilot wrote:

Hence, the opening words of my post...

It'd remain a paper airplane, and not more than mental self-satisfaction... Not sure what your point was.

Whoosh... how much clearer do you need me to be. My whole post was a practice in futility about a plane, while impractical, would just be neat to visualize.

And how much clearer do you need me to be? It's nothing more than mental self-satisfaction; and I'm still not sure what it brings to this thread.

I noticed the P2012 Traveller is on the Cape Air schedule RUT-BOS starting Dec14th. The airliner code for the aircraft appears to be T12

GeeBeeRacer wrote:

I noticed the P2012 Traveller is on the Cape Air schedule RUT-BOS starting Dec14th. The airliner code for the aircraft appears to be T12

I also saw the T12 code on AA.com used for the new UIN to ORD and STL service starting Jan 8th.

Cities that have the renewal or start of EAS contracts are going to be getting them first (i.e. Quincy, Rutland). Per the contract (I’m paraphrasing) a big reason to choose us as your airline is because you’ll be getting new Tecnam P2012 aircraft.

They are using the airplane as a bargaining tool to get cities to choose them as the airline. Where as cities they’ve had for a long time like Saranac Lake or even their base in Hyannis that they have no chance of loosing service with are second priority. Saranac isn’t due to get them until summer 2020 at the earliest.

GeeBeeRacer wrote:

I noticed the P2012 Traveller is on the Cape Air schedule RUT-BOS starting Dec14th. The airliner code for the aircraft appears to be T12

I believe the IATA code is T12 but the ICAO code is P212 (which is what you'll see on pages like Flightaware, etc.).

I believe the IATA code is T12 but the ICAO code is P212 (which is what you'll see on pages like Flightaware, etc.).

Yes you are quite right. I understand that the (IATA) codes are even proprietary for the use of the International Air Transport Association (IATA) and its members. While the ICAO codes can be used freely by by ATC etc.
On another approach I notice a fourth P2012 is on its way to Hyannis. I noticed on Flightaware N266CA left Italy yesterday and is currently in Reykjavik, Iceland. If they have good weather this P2012 should arrive tomorrow.

Just curious what the status of the entry into service for the new Tecnam P2012 is. I know Cape Air started taking delivery of them some months ago, but it doesn't seem like they're in service yet. I haven't seen any on FlightAware when I look up Cape Air and I've seen no mention of it on here.

Any ideas when we'll see this groovy little bird flying (and finally beginning to replace those scary Cesspool 402s) ?!

I understand it to be Dec 14th BOS-RUT FOR introduction

F27500 wrote:

Just curious what the status of the entry into service for the new Tecnam P2012 is. I know Cape Air started taking delivery of them some months ago, but it doesn't seem like they're in service yet. I haven't seen any on FlightAware when I look up Cape Air and I've seen no mention of it on here.

Any ideas when we'll see this groovy little bird flying (and finally beginning to replace those scary Cesspool 402s) ?!

Cape Air has been doing flight training with this aircraft out of HYA for a bit now using the aircraft's registration number N225CA.

N225CA is a Piper Cheyenne

The correct tail number is N255CA.

They've flown it to EWB, ACK, RUT, and SLK.

They also had to get their training program approved by the FAA, which was scheduled to happen any day now. Here's a link to the webcast of intro event in Hyannis, with a tour of the interior and some of the features offered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9zqfjg3QKc
After RUT, next routes were going to be BIL and STL.

rob2507 wrote:

They also had to get their training program approved by the FAA, which was scheduled to happen any day now. Here's a link to the webcast of intro event in Hyannis, with a tour of the interior and some of the features offered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9zqfjg3QKc
After RUT, next routes were going to be BIL and STL.

BIL to where? STL to where?

Are they just going to rotate on any BIL or STL routes? If it flies STL-DEC or STL-UIN chances are we'd see it at ORD as well.

They have several on-hand now in HYA and they've been doing training flights with most of them. You can follow them on FlightAware, etc. using their reg. #'s - try N133CA, N244CA, N255CA or N266CA.

I believe as RJNUT said the plan is still for them to start service in about a week on the BOS-RUT route. They'll be replacing 402s on EAS routes first from what I understand, so it might be a while before we see them doing HYA-ACK, BOS-ACK, etc. and around the Caribbean.

Some of the 402s have already been retired although I do not know the reg numbers for any of them.

This is a pretty exciting introduction. It's been a long time since an Airline was absolutely directly involved in the creation and introduction of an Airplane (like Hughes and the Constellation). Bold move by Cape Air.

The new EAS contracts will be getting the T2012 first. This is because for the new contracts (like Quincy) the reason Cape Air gave for choosing them as their carrier is that “they will be getting a new type of aircraft” (I’m paraphrasing) They are using it as a bargaining chip on their new/re-voted on cities.

So cities they have no chance of loosing the contracts with will be the last ones to receive them (Saranac Lake, Glendive)

drdisque wrote:

N225CA is a Piper Cheyenne

The correct tail number is N255CA.

They've flown it to EWB, ACK, RUT, and SLK.

Hey Thanks I guess I typed it to fast.

PartsGuy20 wrote:

They have several on-hand now in HYA and they've been doing training flights with most of them. You can follow them on FlightAware, etc. using their reg. #'s - try N133CA, N244CA, N255CA or N266CA.

I believe as RJNUT said the plan is still for them to start service in about a week on the BOS-RUT route. They'll be replacing 402s on EAS routes first from what I understand, so it might be a while before we see them doing HYA-ACK, BOS-ACK, etc. and around the Caribbean.

Some of the 402s have already been retired although I do not know the reg numbers for any of them.

Hope I can fly it from BOS-PVC next September. It might be fun instead of the boat.

GeeBeeRacer wrote:

I noticed the P2012 Traveller is on the Cape Air schedule RUT-BOS starting Dec14th. The airliner code for the aircraft appears to be T12

It appears that the start date for the P2012 has been postponed. I've checked the Cape Air schedule for the Rutland - Boston route and the Cessna equipment is listed for all flights through the first week of January.

Cape Air's P2012 deployment appears to be delayed in Quincy, IL also.

New ‘state of the art’ Cape Air planes will not fly in January https://wgem.com/2019/12/20/new-state-o ... n-january/
"The delay can be attributed to the required validation of operational procedures and policies, typical for a newly certified aircraft,"
"City officials told WGEM's newsgathering partners at the Herald-Whig that a software issue was to blame for the delay."

So, it's either procedures and policies or a software issue.