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Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:09 pm
by ctf12
Dominion301 wrote:
AC77X wrote:
Didn't know their slogan is "Flying your way". What's that supposed to mean? Aren't they flying their way?


Touché!

smallmj wrote:
Blueknows wrote:
https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/06/12/1867414/0/en/Jetlines-Announces-Granting-of-Slots-at-Vancouver-International-Airport.html


Interesting. I would have thought they would fly out of Abbotsford because if the lower costs.


Granting of slots? Since when is YVR slot-controlled?


At least a few years. According to IATA's website, both YYZ and YVR are Level 3 slot controlled. The only Canadian airports that are Level 3 slot controlled.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:04 pm
by Dominion301
ctf12 wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
AC77X wrote:
Didn't know their slogan is "Flying your way". What's that supposed to mean? Aren't they flying their way?


Touché!

smallmj wrote:

Interesting. I would have thought they would fly out of Abbotsford because if the lower costs.


Granting of slots? Since when is YVR slot-controlled?


At least a few years. According to IATA's website, both YYZ and YVR are Level 3 slot controlled. The only Canadian airports that are Level 3 slot controlled.


YYZ I was aware of but not YVR. Thanks.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:21 pm
by Blueknows
New colors, and new branding. Bring in the low fares!!!!

http://www.travelweek.ca/news/canada-je ... -identity/

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:31 pm
by Noise
"Flying sucks less when you pay less" wow lol.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:34 pm
by cirrusdragoon
I wish them success. However the livery , the titles looks very similar to easyjet with the front of the aircraft looking like Norwegian .
https://www.jetlines.com/_resources/med ... th_Tag.jpg

Blueknows wrote:
New colors, and new branding. Bring in the low fares!!!!

http://www.travelweek.ca/news/canada-je ... -identity/

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:35 pm
by cumulushumilis
With all due respect, posting a video, announcing who your pretzel provider will be, the list goes on is not clear and tangible evidence of a real airline. Get some airplanes, sell seats and operate some flights. This soap opera has been going on for years. If they approach operations the same way they approach the start up phase these guys will be in a world of hurt. They move at the pace of snails. They sound promising but they better get their shit together or the incumbents or some other startup are going to have them for a snack before breakfast.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:15 pm
by Dominion301
That's a bold livery. Hopefully it'll appear on a real aircraft as opposed to a desk model by the end of the year.

The French equivalent of the slogan is "L’avion à moindre coût et à moindre mal" = roughly "The plane at less cost and less bad".

At least they've removed those silly fantasy route maps from the website.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:12 am
by Blueknows
What is everyone’s issue. They signed a deal with smartlynx. Smartlynx operates the plane and the crew. They have the planes and waiting for Canadian transportation to get AOC.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:44 am
by AC77X
Oh no! I really liked the old livery :hissyfit: Well, at least they decided to change the slogan...
The old livery looked professional, but the orange just doesn't feel right. The rear fuselage looks like a black version Virgin Atlantic. The only thing I like about this livery is the tail.
But who knows, maybe I'll grow into it.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:32 pm
by dr1980
That slogan is pretty much the opposite of reality. Might be time for the marketing team to do a sober second thought.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:36 pm
by AC77X
dr1980 wrote:
That slogan is pretty much the opposite of reality. Might be time for the marketing team to do a sober second thought.

Now that you mention that, I can see that you are correct. You know what? Why don't we just come to the peaceful solution of having no slogan?

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:36 pm
by rampbro
jimbo737 wrote:

Hell's bells jimbo, why do you have to be so aggressively right about this

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:45 pm
by rampbro
AC77X wrote:
Who knows? Maybe they will pull off a miracle and do something correctly. It would certainly be nice to see a 3rd large airline from Canada.

You mean like Transat?

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:53 pm
by rampbro
Flying only sucks because of lowbrow operators like these jokers.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:54 pm
by AC77X
rampbro wrote:
AC77X wrote:
Who knows? Maybe they will pull off a miracle and do something correctly. It would certainly be nice to see a 3rd large airline from Canada.

You mean like Transat?

Well, Air Transat is relatively small compared to AC and WS. I meant an airline with 100 planes, or at least approaching 100 planes. Granted, WS isn't nearly as large fleet wise as AC (less than 200 for WS, over 400 for AC including subsidiaries for both). Basically, a WS equivalent.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:10 pm
by debonair
Noise wrote:
"Flying sucks less when you pay less" wow lol.


"Our new brand identity sucks less when you see flair airlines" :footinmouth:

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:00 pm
by Blueknows

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:34 pm
by rampbro
"Flying sucks less when you take the train"

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:06 am
by Dominion301
AC77X wrote:
Oh no! I really liked the old livery :hissyfit: Well, at least they decided to change the slogan...
The old livery looked professional, but the orange just doesn't feel right. The rear fuselage looks like a black version Virgin Atlantic. The only thing I like about this livery is the tail.
But who knows, maybe I'll grow into it.


They’re both good. I like the new one even more...even if the slogan is lame.

Orange-CP used to say “orange is beautiful” and they were right!

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:36 am
by Blueknows

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:36 am
by Blueknows
Money moving around with Jetlines and smartlynx?

https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=E ... Id=4564991

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:37 am
by debonair
Blueknows wrote:
Money moving around with Jetlines and smartlynx?

https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=E ... Id=4564991


Unfortunately, I can't open the link...

In other news, Procyone (an UAE based investment comany) will acquire Smartlynx Airlines holding company...

Source (use google translator):
https://rus.delfi.lv/biznes/bnews/litov ... 5&all=true

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:33 pm
by Jean Leloup
debonair wrote:
Blueknows wrote:
Money moving around with Jetlines and smartlynx?

https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=E ... Id=4564991


Unfortunately, I can't open the link...

In other news, Procyone (an UAE based investment comany) will acquire Smartlynx Airlines holding company...

Source (use google translator):
https://rus.delfi.lv/biznes/bnews/litov ... 5&all=true


Change of ownership of the company that is supposed to magically make this all work does NOT seem like a good development for Jetlines.

4.5 months now until their latest (10th?) start date, and now authority to sell tickets, no AOC. A few months ago I still figured it was 50/50 that Jetlines would get off the fround. I give them maybe 15% now. The share price lately suggests that the market agrees with me, too.

Their weekly press relesases and (now) publicity stunts are getting them no closer to reality.

JL

PS Before Blueknows accuses me of being just another hater who just doesn't want more competition: I am (most regrettably) a Jetlines shareholder!

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:34 pm
by Blueknows
Yah Im a shareholder too. Was hoping for better outcome. I think you might be right on this one. Let down

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:46 pm
by jimbo737
My advice to you would be to limit your startup airline investments to the ventures that chronically successful startup airline investors gravitate to.

I can assure you that none of them are based in Canada.

Jetlines was a stupid idea when they were circulating NDA’s in 3Q 2013 and it remains a stupid idea in 3Q 2019.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:43 am
by ctrabs0114
This Jetlines fiasco is making Baltia look like DL.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:06 pm
by Blueknows

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:14 pm
by Blueknows
https://www.sedar.com/GetFile.do?lang=E ... Id=4576299

Some filings coming out...lets see what next week holds

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:18 pm
by 767333ER
wrongwayup wrote:
jimbo737 wrote:

Jetballs has no credibility.


Never said they did. It's your own credibility and therefore the credibility of your otherwise rational arguments that you're hurting by using a slightly sexualized, perjorative term instead of their actual name.

Still waiting on those Q4 financials, Jetlines.

You’re never credible if you’re a kool-aid drinker, jimbo drinks teal kool-aid

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:23 pm
by ACCS300

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:33 am
by ThePointblank
ACCS300 wrote:

For a paper airline that hasn't even flown a single passenger, they sure know how to waste money by issuing press releases every two weeks to create headlines.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:25 pm
by EvanWSFO
Their homepage on the net has a petition to the competition bureau. I don't even see a route map that used to be there (I may be overlooking it). I'm not sure Canada needs another ULCC.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:52 am
by Blueknows
Jetlines Confirms SmartLynx Commitment
and Provides Commercial and Operational Updates
September 3, 2019

Canada Jetlines Ltd. (JET: TSX-V; JETMF: OTCQB) (the “Company” or “Jetlines”) announces that SmartLynx Airlines SIA (“SmartLynx”) remains committed to Jetlines and has agreed to extend the funding milestone under the definitive subscription agreement. The new deadline is September 30, 2019, such completion date subject to further extension or waiver by SmartLynx based on its assessment of corporate progress (see update below on commercial and operational progress).

As specified in the Company’s press release of July 8, SmartLynx will provide $7.5 million in financing under the terms of a convertible debenture. The amended offering terms were set to match the financing terms agreed to with InHarv ULCC Growth Fund (“InHarv”). Please refer to the Company’s press releases dated July 8, 2019 and July 30, 2019 for further information on the SmartLynx financing.

Mark Morabito, Executive Chairman, commented “I am pleased that SmartLynx has elected to push out our funding milestone and would like to thank both SmartLynx and InHarv for their continued support as true partners of Jetlines. It is important to remember that SmartLynx specializes in full-service ACMI (Aircraft-Crew-Maintenance-Insurance) aircraft lease services and is the leading ACMI provider in Europe for Airbus A320 aircraft. SmartLynx aircraft have been utilized by major airlines including Norwegian, EasyJet, Thomas Cook and TUI and its partnership with Jetlines extends not only through SmartLynx’ s investment, but also through SmartLynx’ s ability to contribute its years of experience in airline operations, aircraft leases, maintenance operations and other matters to help Jetlines succeed”.

The Company is pleased to provide an update on significant recent commercial and operational developments

Commercial

Jetlines has completed the build of its new website and it is ready to sell tickets. Following successful integration by Jetlines ancillary services partners, Booking.com and CarTrawler, the new website enables customers to rent cars and book hotels at very competitive prices, and the Company to maximize ancillary revenues.

In recent months, Jetlines has secured remarkable brand awareness thanks to our new tagline Flying Sucks Less When You Pay Less, and to our Protest in the Sky video-release, which has been viewed by thousands of Canadians. In partnership with award-winning marketing agency Cossette, Jetlines has developed and plans to deploy a launch campaign as soon as the Company receives permission to sell tickets.

Operations

Jetlines continues to advance its Air Operator Certificate (AOC) application with Transport Canada, having now submitted all but one of the required operations manuals. Once operational, the Company is confident that the processes it has defined will enable the airline to exceed the highest safety standards.

The Company has completed the incorporation of most of the required software systems, utilizing the latest in technological automation and cloud platform solutions. In preparation for launch, Jetlines continues to build-out its expert operational team, which now incudes a COO, VP Flight Operations, VP Maintenance, Head of Training, Chief Pilot, Flight Attendant Manager and Safety Manager.

Jetlines believes that due to proposed consolidations resulting from a surge in M&A activity in the Canadian airline industry, the ULCC market opportunity has never been greater. The Company is looking forward to the Competition Bureau announcing its position on its ongoing investigation into WestJet’s alleged predatory pricing through its subsidiary, Swoop.

The Company continues to make progress on building out the airline and is now closer than ever to starting operations. The Company and SmartLynx are currently reworking the aircraft lease arrangements. However, the final date for airline launch is subject to meeting the financial requirements of Canadian regulatory authorities. The Company will provide further timing updates once the necessary funding commitments have been secured. Please refer to the Company’s management's discussion and analysis for the six-months ended June 30, 2019 for further information on the SmartLynx aircraft lease agreements.

About Canada Jetlines Ltd.

Canada Jetlines is set to become Canada’s first true Ultra-Low Cost Carrier (ULCC) airline, with plans to operate flights across Canada and provide non-stop service from Canada to the United States, Mexico and the Caribbean. The Company plans to commence operations with the Airbus A320 fleet, the most widely used aircraft for ultra-low cost carriers worldwide. Jetlines is led by a board and management team with extensive experience and expertise in low-cost airlines, start-ups and capital markets. The Company was granted an unprecedented exemption from the Government of Canada that will permit it to conduct domestic air services while having up to 49% foreign voting interests.

Jetlines ability to sell tickets and launch airline service remains subject to the completion of the airline licensing process, the receipt of applicable regulatory approvals and the completion of financing.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:08 pm
by Dominion301
So one step to go before selling tickets.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:01 pm
by Blueknows
CANADA JETLINES LTD ("JET.WT")
BULLETIN TYPE: Warrant Expiry-Delist
BULLETIN DATE: September 6, 2019
TSX Venture Tier 2 Company

Effective at the opening September 12, 2019 , the Share Purchase Warrants of the Company will trade for cash. The Warrants expire September 16, 2019 and will therefore be delisted at the close of business September 16, 2019 .

TRADE DATES

September 12 , 2019 - TO SETTLE - September 13 , 2019
September 13, 2019 - TO SETTLE - September 16, 2019
September 16 , 2019 - TO SETTLE - September 16, 2019

The above is in compliance with Trading Rule C.2.18 – Expiry Date:
Trading in the warrants shall be for cash for the two trading days preceding the expiry date and also on expiry date. On the expiry date, trading shall cease at 12 o'clock noon E.T. and no transactions shall take place thereafter except with permission of the Exchange.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:02 pm
by Blueknows
This should be good

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:44 pm
by samuelx88
So when are they supposed to start selling tickets or show their route map?

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:42 am
by Dominion301
Blueknows wrote:
CANADA JETLINES LTD ("JET.WT")
BULLETIN TYPE: Warrant Expiry-Delist
BULLETIN DATE: September 6, 2019
TSX Venture Tier 2 Company

Effective at the opening September 12, 2019 , the Share Purchase Warrants of the Company will trade for cash. The Warrants expire September 16, 2019 and will therefore be delisted at the close of business September 16, 2019 .

TRADE DATES

September 12 , 2019 - TO SETTLE - September 13 , 2019
September 13, 2019 - TO SETTLE - September 16, 2019
September 16 , 2019 - TO SETTLE - September 16, 2019

The above is in compliance with Trading Rule C.2.18 – Expiry Date:
Trading in the warrants shall be for cash for the two trading days preceding the expiry date and also on expiry date. On the expiry date, trading shall cease at 12 o'clock noon E.T. and no transactions shall take place thereafter except with permission of the Exchange.


So delisting and going private?

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:21 pm
by Blueknows

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:09 pm
by Blueknows
look like smartlynx is all in with JETLINES. Still trying to find what they are missing. Money is the only option that seems plausible.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:41 pm
by N766UA
Their tail logo looks either drunk, high, or sleepy. Also, painting the word “sucks” on your airplane is a tragic idea. The slogan seems to indicate that flying them totally sucks, but at least you aren’t paying as much.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:51 pm
by Dominion301
Well if they want to meet their magical Dec. 17th launch date, they better receive government approval within the next couple of weeks to start selling tickets.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:04 pm
by lostsound
Blueknows wrote:
look like smartlynx is all in with JETLINES. Still trying to find what they are missing. Money is the only option that seems plausible.


I believe they’re just waiting for their certificate to fly as they have plenty money to get off the ground now.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:07 pm
by jimbo737
Starting an airline at that time of year is a completely stupid idea, but, once again, par for the course for these clowns.

What could possibly go wrong?

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:20 am
by Dominion301
jimbo737 wrote:
Starting an airline at that time of year is a completely stupid idea, but, once again, par for the course for these clowns.

What could possibly go wrong?


Since 2020 is a leap year, they should wait to launch until February 29, 2020. It would align well with a certain airline's upcoming 6th birthday. :old: :stirthepot:

In all seriousness, the only sensible thing to do with a launch date like that is to fly to LAS and PHX (or AZA) daily and to YHM and a second transcon 6x weekly. On Saturdays you should be able to fill up a 320 to LAS and PHX just on YVR O&D, allowing for 1 aircraft in maintenance every other Saturday. However, have Jetlines applied for scheduled route authority to the US...or are they even allowed prior to being permitted to sell tickets? On top of that, as Flair found out, without a 'Vacations' subsidiary, it's very difficult to operate transborder sun flying. For Jetlines, having such a subsidiary/division ready to go from day 1 is almost impossible to achieve.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:17 pm
by jimbo737
https://canadianaviationnews.wordpress. ... ng-update/

. Jetlines intent is to convert investor interest into financing commitments, but it cannot provide any assurances that this will occur. Jetlines will provide further updates to the market with respect to its financing efforts through future news releases.

Their best chance may be to buy a lotto ticket.

These clowns have been at it since at least 3Q 2013 and still can’t attract any meaningful interest from any Canadian source, which is required in order to meet the 51% domestic ownership threshold.

Smartlynx are only there to place aircraft. There’s no downside for them, so they are hardly an equity investor.

Sooner or later, the other foreign investors are going to start wondering why the heck no one else on the planet sees the supposed opportunity they’ve been sold on, hire someone without rose colored glasses glued to their face who knows their way around the business in Canada to explain the obvious to them and then thank their lucky stars they didn’t invest in this dog’s breakfast.

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:47 pm
by Dominion301
jimbo737 wrote:
https://canadianaviationnews.wordpress.com/2019/09/30/jetlines-provides-financing-update/

. Jetlines intent is to convert investor interest into financing commitments, but it cannot provide any assurances that this will occur. Jetlines will provide further updates to the market with respect to its financing efforts through future news releases.

Their best chance may be to buy a lotto ticket.

These clowns have been at it since at least 3Q 2013 and still can’t attract any meaningful interest from any Canadian source, which is required in order to meet the 51% domestic ownership threshold.

Smartlynx are only there to place aircraft. There’s no downside for them, so they are hardly an equity investor.

Sooner or later, the other foreign investors are going to start wondering why the heck no one else on the planet sees the supposed opportunity they’ve been sold on, hire someone without rose colored glasses glued to their face who knows their way around the business in Canada to explain the obvious to them and then thank their lucky stars they didn’t invest in this dog’s breakfast.


Well Lotto Max is $60 million tonight. :P

I think they can still make a December 17th launch date...if it's 2020 (or 2021)!

Here's another article about the same topic but with some differences: https://www.travelweek.ca/news/canada-j ... ore-money/

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:10 pm
by strfyr51
DarthLobster wrote:
Given how tough the startup environment is, you’d think they’d try just a tad harder on the name...

The Name is simple and easy to remember. What did you have in Mind?

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:37 am
by Blueknows

Re: CANADA JETLINES getting ready to fly

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:42 am
by Jetsouth
Air Baltia ran 30 years without flying one revenue producing flight. Wonder if this is the Canadian version.....