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imthedreamliner wrote:2019 Paris Air Show is on June 23, approximately 3 months away. It is a big opportunity to restore trust in MAX and in Boeing as well. What can they do at the Paris Air Show to make things better ?
My Advices :
1-) Complete the necessary fix of the MCAS system and other modifications. If possible, bring a MAX-8 to the show to explain the modifications and try to persuade people and media it is perfectly safe to fly the plane. If possible, try to get as many orders for MAX to restore trust as well.
2-) Is it a golden opportunity to launch 797 ? If it possible, launching 797 at Paris Air Show with hundreds of commitments could be a big sign of " I am strong ". Maybe Boeing can go into details why 797 is safe to fly ( the systems like MCAS is not in this plane or it is in this plane and safe ).
3-) Full attendance of the Board of Boeing ? This could answer all the questions coming from media and people at the heighest level and restore trust in Boeing. This could be important.
4-) Joint conferances with some ally Airliners ( USA airliners + others if possible ) to talk about the fixes on MAX and why it is safe to fly ?
I am sure more can be done but I see it as a big opportunity for Boeing. But first of all, Boeing has to do the homework and make MAX safer.
JQ321 wrote:imthedreamliner wrote:2019 Paris Air Show is on June 23, approximately 3 months away. It is a big opportunity to restore trust in MAX and in Boeing as well. What can they do at the Paris Air Show to make things better ?
My Advices :
1-) Complete the necessary fix of the MCAS system and other modifications. If possible, bring a MAX-8 to the show to explain the modifications and try to persuade people and media it is perfectly safe to fly the plane. If possible, try to get as many orders for MAX to restore trust as well.
2-) Is it a golden opportunity to launch 797 ? If it possible, launching 797 at Paris Air Show with hundreds of commitments could be a big sign of " I am strong ". Maybe Boeing can go into details why 797 is safe to fly ( the systems like MCAS is not in this plane or it is in this plane and safe ).
3-) Full attendance of the Board of Boeing ? This could answer all the questions coming from media and people at the heighest level and restore trust in Boeing. This could be important.
4-) Joint conferances with some ally Airliners ( USA airliners + others if possible ) to talk about the fixes on MAX and why it is safe to fly ?
I am sure more can be done but I see it as a big opportunity for Boeing. But first of all, Boeing has to do the homework and make MAX safer.
Why would they do 2 ? It is practically saying that the 737MAX is unsafe.
cc2314 wrote:Point no 3 is crucial, giving off the image (we really care) will help heel the wounds.
I do hope they can explain to the public the ins and outs of the fix and why it was needed in a transparent way.. For Joe public to understand
cc2314 wrote:giving off the image (we really care).
smokeybandit wrote:Most of the general population doesn't even know what the MAX is or would have any idea they're flying one
Polot wrote:It will just be a stop on the Boeing apology tour, nothing more nothing less. PR by then will have massaged the message Boeing uses and how to properly answer the “inconvenient questions.”
Let’s not forget the air show is a trade show. People there are not going to beat up Boeing. Most of them are Boeing customers or suppliers. Most journalists and especially bloggers are not going to ruin their relationship with Boeing or they will be shut out of future perks/invites. Other than Boeing having a more apologetic tone it will be just like any other air show.
Anyone expecting a Boeing witch hunt is going to be very disappointed. The industry does not want to make major news and rehash of industry short comings (ie certification concerns) and especially crashes.
mig17 wrote:Polot wrote:It will just be a stop on the Boeing apology tour, nothing more nothing less. PR by then will have massaged the message Boeing uses and how to properly answer the “inconvenient questions.”
Let’s not forget the air show is a trade show. People there are not going to beat up Boeing. Most of them are Boeing customers or suppliers. Most journalists and especially bloggers are not going to ruin their relationship with Boeing or they will be shut out of future perks/invites. Other than Boeing having a more apologetic tone it will be just like any other air show.
Anyone expecting a Boeing witch hunt is going to be very disappointed. The industry does not want to make major news and rehash of industry short comings (ie certification concerns) and especially crashes.
That's downplaying it ... We are not even sure the MAX will be ungrounded by then. Since you are speacking of the industry, the industry is in an hot spot right now because the MAX crashes twice while having gone through all the industry developpement standard and the authorities certification process. The MAX is a black sheep and it's presence at Le Bourget could be damaging for every one.
Boeing has to work on it and realy proove it is a safe airplaine to unlock the entire situation or it will end badly.
For now the MAX is a Schrodinger case. It could stil be a succes story or it could go down as the biggest industrial accident in History. And Boeing PR for now doesn't help at all.
Polot wrote:mig17 wrote:Polot wrote:It will just be a stop on the Boeing apology tour, nothing more nothing less. PR by then will have massaged the message Boeing uses and how to properly answer the “inconvenient questions.”
Let’s not forget the air show is a trade show. People there are not going to beat up Boeing. Most of them are Boeing customers or suppliers. Most journalists and especially bloggers are not going to ruin their relationship with Boeing or they will be shut out of future perks/invites. Other than Boeing having a more apologetic tone it will be just like any other air show.
Anyone expecting a Boeing witch hunt is going to be very disappointed. The industry does not want to make major news and rehash of industry short comings (ie certification concerns) and especially crashes.
That's downplaying it ... We are not even sure the MAX will be ungrounded by then. Since you are speacking of the industry, the industry is in an hot spot right now because the MAX crashes twice while having gone through all the industry developpement standard and the authorities certification process. The MAX is a black sheep and it's presence at Le Bourget could be damaging for every one.
Boeing has to work on it and realy proove it is a safe airplaine to unlock the entire situation or it will end badly.
For now the MAX is a Schrodinger case. It could stil be a succes story or it could go down as the biggest industrial accident in History. And Boeing PR for now doesn't help at all.
I never said Boeing had to or was going to bring a 737Max to the show. They still have 787s and 748Fs to show off (and maybe the 777X? But might be too busy for show).
Boeing will no doubt give a run down/talk about the situation and how regrettable it is and lessons learned. And then people will move on to the next new order announced in the other room.
Polot wrote:It will just be a stop on the Boeing apology tour, nothing more nothing less. PR by then will have massaged the message Boeing uses and how to properly answer the “inconvenient questions.”
Let’s not forget the air show is a trade show. People there are not going to beat up Boeing. Most of them are Boeing customers or suppliers. Most journalists and especially bloggers are not going to ruin their relationship with Boeing or they will be shut out of future perks/invites. Other than Boeing having a more apologetic tone it will be just like any other air show.
Anyone expecting a Boeing witch hunt is going to be very disappointed. The industry does not want to make major news and rehash of industry short comings (ie certification concerns) and especially crashes.
mjoelnir wrote:Polot wrote:It will just be a stop on the Boeing apology tour, nothing more nothing less. PR by then will have massaged the message Boeing uses and how to properly answer the “inconvenient questions.”
Let’s not forget the air show is a trade show. People there are not going to beat up Boeing. Most of them are Boeing customers or suppliers. Most journalists and especially bloggers are not going to ruin their relationship with Boeing or they will be shut out of future perks/invites. Other than Boeing having a more apologetic tone it will be just like any other air show.
Anyone expecting a Boeing witch hunt is going to be very disappointed. The industry does not want to make major news and rehash of industry short comings (ie certification concerns) and especially crashes.
There is not a witch hunt in regards to Boeing, journalist should grill Boeing, especially the top managers.
In a normal situation there should be running a criminal investigation and the responsible persons at Boeing should sit in investigative custody. Compare it to dieselgate, here People died.
eirflot wrote:I still f8nd it hard ti believe Boeing installed new software without highlighting the change - almost seems underhanded
mjoelnir wrote:There is not a witch hunt in regards to Boeing, journalist should grill Boeing, especially the top managers.In a normal situation there should be running a criminal investigation and the responsible persons at Boeing should sit in investigative custody.
bennett123 wrote:Have the BOD fly over in a B737MAX?.
Polot wrote:mjoelnir wrote:Polot wrote:It will just be a stop on the Boeing apology tour, nothing more nothing less. PR by then will have massaged the message Boeing uses and how to properly answer the “inconvenient questions.”
Let’s not forget the air show is a trade show. People there are not going to beat up Boeing. Most of them are Boeing customers or suppliers. Most journalists and especially bloggers are not going to ruin their relationship with Boeing or they will be shut out of future perks/invites. Other than Boeing having a more apologetic tone it will be just like any other air show.
Anyone expecting a Boeing witch hunt is going to be very disappointed. The industry does not want to make major news and rehash of industry short comings (ie certification concerns) and especially crashes.
There is not a witch hunt in regards to Boeing, journalist should grill Boeing, especially the top managers.
In a normal situation there should be running a criminal investigation and the responsible persons at Boeing should sit in investigative custody. Compare it to dieselgate, here People died.
They should grill Boeing and they will, it just won’t be at the Air Show. You have Congress looking into the FAA/Boeing. That is the principle venue the grilling will occur at and where it will get the most journalistic attention.
Criminal investigations and the Paris air show are two separate things. You can’t hold people in the US in “investigative custody.”
mjoelnir wrote:Polot wrote:mjoelnir wrote:
There is not a witch hunt in regards to Boeing, journalist should grill Boeing, especially the top managers.
In a normal situation there should be running a criminal investigation and the responsible persons at Boeing should sit in investigative custody. Compare it to dieselgate, here People died.
They should grill Boeing and they will, it just won’t be at the Air Show. You have Congress looking into the FAA/Boeing. That is the principle venue the grilling will occur at and where it will get the most journalistic attention.
Criminal investigations and the Paris air show are two separate things. You can’t hold people in the US in “investigative custody.”
The did it with Audi and VW managers. They do it with a Huawei manager. They do it of course not with Boeing or FAA managers.
I have neither seen not heard of any journalist grilling Boeing management. How so, the management has practical disappeared and no comments is the standard.
bennett123 wrote:Have the BOD fly over in a B737MAX?.
Polot wrote:Criminal investigations and the Paris air show are two separate things. You can’t hold people in the US in “investigative custody.”
mjoelnir wrote:Do not take part, that they do not have to answer inconvenient questions.
DL747400 wrote:
Great idea! Better yet, make the BOD fly to Paris onboard a MAX that does not have the fixes. They clearly felt the MAX was safe enough for "regular" people, it should be safe enough for Boeing's BOD, right?
SteelChair wrote:Stay home.
Boeing needa a house cleaning in the executive suite imho.
They are in a very difficult position. Its a shame (for Airbus) that the Airbus corruption deal is going on, otherwise they could really twist the knife..
Faro wrote:Be pro-active...don’t muck around...make LH an offer they really really can’t refuse for their 100 narrowbody requirement NOW...and announce the MAX order in Paris...just do it for God’s sake...ACT!...
Faro
GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:Like VW, Boeing's PR face throughout has been abysmal. Muilenburg comes off with as much empathy and tact as a sleezy lobbyist for used car salesmen.
If I were Boeing's BOD, I'd fire Muilenburg before Paris (and maybe others).
I would do whatever I could, without appearing pushy, to showcase front and center what the EASA is doing to review and (re)certify that MAX, MCAS, etc.
Dropping the MAX name slowly over time by Paris 2020 is not a bad idea.
I would provide two very comfortable and detailed info booths/pavilions about each crash with the latest investigation updates. Each should have a wall of names / memorial for the dead as well as special thanks to investigators and first responders.
I would have a third info booth / pavilion all about MCAS. 100% transparency and disclosure.
I would hold one press conference every day:
Day 1: What we're doing for the families of the victims (aid package). Day 2: How we're compensating MAX customers (aid package). Day 3: How we're bolstering the independence, strength, and authority of regulatory agencies all over the world. Etc.
I would give ATO to the NMA.
I would put the 78X and 77X combo front and center as the ultimate 1-2 punch for the best WB strategy.
Faro wrote:Be pro-active...don’t muck around...make LH an offer they really really can’t refuse for their 100 narrowbody requirement NOW...and announce the MAX order in Paris...just do it for God’s sake...ACT!...
Faro
keesje wrote:A humble. open approach instead of a fight back attitude would be required. I wouldn't let the same communication advisers do the Paris job.
zoom321 wrote:Faro wrote:Be pro-active...don’t muck around...make LH an offer they really really can’t refuse for their 100 narrowbody requirement NOW...and announce the MAX order in Paris...just do it for God’s sake...ACT!...
Faro
You mean like offering LH US$100 milion for each Max they take ?