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First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:45 am

The first 737MAX10 fuselage has arrived in the Seattle area from Wichita where it will enter final assembly at Renton. LN7644 is the first production 737MAX10 and will be operated by United Airlines

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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:45 am

That's one long 737!
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:00 am

It would be nice if UA kept that “ first MAX10” on the side.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:06 am

tomaheath wrote:
It would be nice if UA kept that “ first MAX10” on the side.

Along with the green primer. Should save several 100 kg of paint. Weren't they planning to announce a livery refresh in April anyway?
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:18 am

gatibosgru wrote:
That's one long 737!

My initial thoughts exactly!
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:28 am

Is Boeing still having that problem of people shooting at and hitting the airframes enroute from Wichita to Renton?
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:34 am

Thanks for the photo! Have been waiting for this. Had to look carefully at the picture to make sure it wasn't an April Fools photoshop job!
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:34 am

Ha ha... April fools
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:54 am

Bobloblaw wrote:
Ha ha... April fools

Look at the tweet date ... 31. March 2019, 20:38.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:55 am

It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:00 am

That picture was taken at mukilteo wa not Seattle. But you said Seattle area so makes sense
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:02 am

Just put 4 engines (RR Pearl 15) on this long boi and call it a Boeing 707 MAX 5.

For what purpose? None.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:04 am

Looks like it’s in about a 5 degree left bank
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:09 am

I expected it to look longer, still a great picture tho.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:44 am

JannEejit wrote:
It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...


48 windows just like a 707-320!

For comparison, cabin lengths:

757-200 118ft 5in
737-10 111ft 7 in
707-320 111ft 6in
707-120 104ft 10in
737-8 98ft 6in
727-200 92ft 8 in
727-100 72ft 8 in
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:13 pm

When can we expect body join and roll out?
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:27 pm

ELBOB wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...


48 windows just like a 707-320!

For comparison, cabin lengths:

757-200 118ft 5in
737-10 111ft 7 in
707-320 111ft 6in
707-120 104ft 10in
737-8 98ft 6in
727-200 92ft 8 in
727-100 72ft 8 in


Externally it's close to 50 feet longer than the original 130s. I don't think even the DC8 managed that much of a stretch.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:35 pm

ELBOB wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...


48 windows just like a 707-320!

For comparison, cabin lengths:

757-200 118ft 5in
737-10 111ft 7 in
707-320 111ft 6in
707-120 104ft 10in
737-8 98ft 6in
727-200 92ft 8 in
727-100 72ft 8 in


Do you know how big the a321s is?
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:50 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
ELBOB wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...


48 windows just like a 707-320!

For comparison, cabin lengths:

757-200 118ft 5in
737-10 111ft 7 in
707-320 111ft 6in
707-120 104ft 10in
737-8 98ft 6in
727-200 92ft 8 in
727-100 72ft 8 in



Do you know how big the a321s is?

Cabin length of roughly 113ft for the A321
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:50 pm

Has MCAS been installed yet?
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:52 pm

gatibosgru wrote:
That's one long 737!

Don't worry, it is the same 737 that was certified in the 1960s. All the same, you can grandfather it.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:52 pm

FYI, there is a MAX 10 development thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1417025
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:53 pm

GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:
Has MCAS been installed yet?


Not yet. Clearly from the photo the train has stalled but it didn't nose dive.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:36 pm

The Fuselage length of the 707-320 was 152ft 11ins, I believe the 737 Max10 will be 143ft 8ins, a massive stretch from the 94ft or the original 737-100. The DC-8-63 is 187ft 4 ins compared to 150ft 7 ins of the DC-8 -10/55. The 737 stretch is more in absolute and percentage terms, nearly 50ft, quite incredible.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:48 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:
Has MCAS been installed yet?


Not yet. Clearly from the photo the train has stalled but it didn't nose dive.


Indeed not nose dive into a river with four or five compatriots!

https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing- ... ver-2014-7 (actually some stayed on land)
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:05 pm

ELBOB wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...


48 windows just like a 707-320!

For comparison, cabin lengths:

757-200 118ft 5in
737-10 111ft 7 in
707-320 111ft 6in
707-120 104ft 10in
737-8 98ft 6in
727-200 92ft 8 in
727-100 72ft 8 in


Yep that was my first thought too. Looks almost exactly like a 707-320 frame.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:14 pm

LaunchDetected wrote:
Just put 4 engines (RR Pearl 15) on this long boi and call it a Boeing 707 MAX 5.

For what purpose? None.


Every variant of the 707 was larger than the largest 737 the MAX 10.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:17 pm

cha747 wrote:
Is Boeing still having that problem of people shooting at and hitting the airframes enroute from Wichita to Renton?


Shooting at railwaycars ?
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:20 pm

GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:
Has MCAS been installed yet?


AFAIK the MAX 10 will not have any MCAS at all. Only MAX 8 and 9’s.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:20 pm

frmrCapCadet wrote:
smokeybandit wrote:
GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:
Has MCAS been installed yet?

Not yet. Clearly from the photo the train has stalled but it didn't nose dive.

Indeed not nose dive into a river with four or five compatriots!
https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing- ... ver-2014-7 (actually some stayed on land)


So now fatal plane crashes are funny? I'm starting to hate this site.

JannEejit wrote:
It looks like a 707 on it's way to final assembly...


Back on topic, it's cool to see the 737 grow to the size of the 707. Hopefully, when it's all built we get to see a photo of the MAX10 parked next to a 707, just for comparison.

Avgeek21 wrote:
AFAIK the MAX 10 will not have any MCAS at all. Only MAX 8 and 9’s.


Is that because the MAX 10 is constructed with slightly more of its fuselage forward of the wing so that there is less tail strike potential? As a result, we don't get the same pitch up behavior of the 8 and 9 MAX?
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:20 pm

GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:
Has MCAS been installed yet?


AFAIK the MAX 10 will not have any MCAS at all. Only MAX 8 and 9’s.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:22 pm

ODwyerPW wrote:

So now fatal plane crashes are funny? I'm starting to hate this site.


The post was referring to the train derailment... not a MAX 8 crash. No fatalities except for some 737 fuses.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:27 pm

Virtual737 wrote:
ODwyerPW wrote:

So now fatal plane crashes are funny? I'm starting to hate this site.


The post was referring to the train derailment... not a MAX 8 crash. No fatalities except for some 737 fuses.


Yes.. the foto…. BUT MCAS has nothing to do with derailments.... You know the MCAS reference by Enginedude was in poor taste.... don't miss the forest for the trees.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:49 pm

Zodiac787 wrote:
gatibosgru wrote:
That's one long 737!

Don't worry, it is the same 737 that was certified

So was that before or after the year 1989? :duck:
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:50 pm

April Fools! Might as well scrap it now, it has no future.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:27 pm

It's a pity the MAX is going through some horrible teething issues since the MAX 10 was the one I was looking the most forward to since it's almost like Boeing went back and did a 707 MAX with the MAX 10.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:35 pm

Somewhere there is an overhead picture of a 737 and 707, I believe military versions. The difference in wings is striking. The 707 wings look like they could be made out of sheets of plywood.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:42 pm

Yes the 707 had a pretty large wing, but of course it was designed in the 50's after all.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/b8/36/cf/b836 ... career.jpg
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:03 pm

The MAX-10 looks considerably longer than the 737-NGs. Can a plane so much longer really be certified as just a variant of the 737?
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:10 pm

texl1649 wrote:
Yes the 707 had a pretty large wing, but of course it was designed in the 50's after all.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/b8/36/cf/b836 ... career.jpg

...and that's only the little wing before the root chord extension of the 300s.

cv990Coronado wrote:
The Fuselage length of the 707-320 was 152ft 11ins, I believe the 737 Max10 will be 143ft 8ins, a massive stretch from the 94ft or the original 737-100. The DC-8-63 is 187ft 4 ins compared to 150ft 7 ins of the DC-8 -10/55. The 737 stretch is more in absolute and percentage terms, nearly 50ft, quite incredible.


The fuselage length on the 300 was 145'6", the tail overhang is what brought it up to 152'11", so it's fairly close to the max 10.

pjc747 wrote:
LaunchDetected wrote:
Just put 4 engines (RR Pearl 15) on this long boi and call it a Boeing 707 MAX 5.

For what purpose? None.


Every variant of the 707 was larger than the largest 737 the MAX 10.


How are you defining "larger?" The short-body 707-100 had a length of 134'6": http://707.adastron.com/qantas/138-length.htm
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:12 pm

Northpole wrote:
cha747 wrote:
Is Boeing still having that problem of people shooting at and hitting the airframes enroute from Wichita to Renton?


Shooting at railwaycars ?


The fuselages are attached to flat bed railroad cars and transported in the open:

https://youtu.be/ErnScsC2lyw
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:26 pm

United's internal email following up on the 737-10 order said that two of the changes to reduce tail strike risk were the telescoping landing gear and a change in body sculpting. I've been curious if the change in body sculpting really happened. Perhaps somebody can try to superimpose a profile of other 737s onto this pic of the -10 to see if there really is a change.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:46 pm

Avgeek21 wrote:
GEUltraFan9XGTF wrote:
Has MCAS been installed yet?


AFAIK the MAX 10 will not have any MCAS at all. Only MAX 8 and 9’s.


This makes sense, they can rebalance the 737-10, which they couldn't do with the MAX8/9.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:13 pm

Hi, photographer here. These photos are 100% real -- there wouldn't have been an April Fool's conflict if the train had arrived a week ago as scheduled!

One of the shots is now in the database, too.
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Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:44 pm

mzlin wrote:
I've been curious if the change in body sculpting really happened. Perhaps somebody can try to superimpose a profile of other 737s onto this pic of the -10 to see if there really is a change.


Me too, I'd love to see the difference..

I wonder if the body sculpting along with the tail cone gives the tail more authority as well? That coupled with a slight rebalance (a larger plug was added fore of the wing than aft of the wing) might really reduce the nose pitch behavior that the 8/9 have in some climb scenarios.
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:17 pm

Is it just me or it looks a bit Max9 - ish. I expected it to look a bit longer. Well, maybe after it is assembled we'll see the length of it.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:34 pm

The cargo doors look so small on this aircraft.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:36 pm

Will the exit door between the wings and the rear door have the option to be plugged?
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:43 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
Will the exit door between the wings and the rear door have the option to be plugged?


I believe so, same rules as the -9. If the configuration is 189seats and below they can be plugged.
 
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Re: First 737MAX10 fuselage arrives for final assembly

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:55 pm

cha747 wrote:
Northpole wrote:
cha747 wrote:
Is Boeing still having that problem of people shooting at and hitting the airframes enroute from Wichita to Renton?


Shooting at railwaycars ?


The fuselages are attached to flat bed railroad cars and transported in the open:

https://youtu.be/ErnScsC2lyw


Thanks very much for the link - Yes I knew that> but seriously ... are people shooting at the trains and the fuselages passing by from time to time ?Yikes... In such a case I find it irresponsible to transport the fuselages on open railroad cars. Clearly there are double stacked containers on the train with a profile larger( higher) than a covering hood over the fuselages would make... ( for passage under bridges and through tunnels ) Furthermore those railroad cars carrying the fuselages seems to be a of very standardized type. Correct me if I am wrong.

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