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March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:57 am

Looks like DL 78 an A330 from LAX-AMS got from LAX as far as SD and then, per FlightRadar24, got diverted to ATL. This seems like a strange diversion to me. The flight is scheduled to continue on to AMS later in the morning. Appreciate the insight
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:06 am

ATL is there largest hub.
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:10 am

Boof02671 wrote:
ATL is there largest hub.


Of course - sorry. My specific question is what type of issue (generally or in this specific case) would warrant such an out of the way diversion from over South Dakota to ATL rather than divert to DTW or JFK. I'm assuming it's more aircraft maintenance related rather than medical or crew related but I could be wrong.
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:47 am

cha747 wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
ATL is there largest hub.


Of course - sorry. My specific question is what type of issue (generally or in this specific case) would warrant such an out of the way diversion from over South Dakota to ATL rather than divert to DTW or JFK. I'm assuming it's more aircraft maintenance related rather than medical or crew related but I could be wrong.


Delta had widebody spares in ATL today. I think one was even a 777 which would be a fairly easy swap. Also it’s the main tech ops base.... ATL would be the most ideal place to divert.
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:47 am

There can be certain failures of equipment which would not allow the plane to fly across the Atlantic Ocean because of airspace requirements. For example. A transponder issue could prevent it from entering the NATS (North Atlantic Track System) .

Diverted to ATL as reserve crews and plane were available. Could have also diverted to DTW or NYC if planes/crew were available. Another issue, it could have been to heavy to land at DTW without dumping fuel to get to max landing weight. So instead of dumping fuel, keep it moving it closer to destination using the fuel until you can’t go any farther.

I am not qualified on the 330 so have no idea if it has a big difference in its max takeoff weight to max landing weight ratio
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:50 pm

Interesting that the specific frame N822NW is now scheduled as DL74 ATL-AMS 19:56 departure.
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:23 pm

Looks like the flight is underway now. Anybody on the ground at ATL hear what caused the diversion?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL78/history/20190401/0215Z/KLAX/EHAM
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:00 pm

I am quite surprised an Airbus A330-302 can do the LAX-AMS route. One of the longer routes out of Amsterdam.
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:23 pm

Dutchy wrote:
I am quite surprised an Airbus A330-302 can do the LAX-AMS route. One of the longer routes out of Amsterdam.


This A333 is one of the 242T birds and its even longer flights than this one with the same type of aircraft:

AMS-LAX - DL79, Average Flight Time 11h20
LAX-SHE - CZ610, Average Flight Time 12h26
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:40 pm

Dutchy wrote:
I am quite surprised an Airbus A330-302 can do the LAX-AMS route. One of the longer routes out of Amsterdam.



Aeroflot has deployed their A333s on the SVO-LAX route in the past; it is currently flown by the A332s.
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:48 pm

dcajet wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
I am quite surprised an Airbus A330-302 can do the LAX-AMS route. One of the longer routes out of Amsterdam.



Aeroflot has deployed their A333s on the SVO-LAX route in the past; it is currently flown by the A332s.


EI regularly fly their 242t A333 to SFO and LAX as well, not too much further to get to AMS.
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:17 pm

AECM wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
I am quite surprised an Airbus A330-302 can do the LAX-AMS route. One of the longer routes out of Amsterdam.


This A333 is one of the 242T birds and its even longer flights than this one with the same type of aircraft:

AMS-LAX - DL79, Average Flight Time 11h20
LAX-SHE - CZ610, Average Flight Time 12h26


That bird has come a long way.
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:26 pm

Dutchy wrote:
AECM wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
I am quite surprised an Airbus A330-302 can do the LAX-AMS route. One of the longer routes out of Amsterdam.


This A333 is one of the 242T birds and its even longer flights than this one with the same type of aircraft:

AMS-LAX - DL79, Average Flight Time 11h20
LAX-SHE - CZ610, Average Flight Time 12h26


That bird has come a long way.
Yes the A330 is a very good example of product optimization/evolution and the new NEO, apart from new engines, wingspan increase with new winglets and aero tweaks, is also getting a bump in MTOW to 251T
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:45 am

AECM wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
AECM wrote:

This A333 is one of the 242T birds and its even longer flights than this one with the same type of aircraft:

AMS-LAX - DL79, Average Flight Time 11h20
LAX-SHE - CZ610, Average Flight Time 12h26


That bird has come a long way.
Yes the A330 is a very good example of product optimization/evolution and the new NEO, apart from new engines, wingspan increase with new winglets and aero tweaks, is also getting a bump in MTOW to 251T


It is really an outstanding airplane imho. Its unfortunate imho that Airbus even built the 340. The 330 could have had many more orders sooner if the inherent range capability provided by the big wing on the 330 had veen exploited. Unfortunately, in todays market, the NEO is finding tough sledding against the newer 787.
 
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Re: March 31 DL78 LAX-AMS Diverted to ATL

Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:15 am

Even Korean Air operated ICN-NBO services via A330 equipment; which is quite long.
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