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Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:53 pm

Per their route map:

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Interesting expansion as they currently only have 2 757s leased from Icelandair.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:11 am

Ishrion wrote:
Per their route map:

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Interesting expansion as they currently only have 2 757s leased from Icelandair.


IIRC they have 2 more 757s on the way.
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Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:42 am

DC as in Dulles? Or BWI?
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:52 am

Do they plan to increase frequency on existing routes? Not sure it makes sense to add so many new destinations when the majority of their destinations are only once or twice weekly.
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:05 am

smokeybandit wrote:
DC as in Dulles? Or BWI?

As ecstatic as I would be if it were BWI, I would have to imagine it is IAD.
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:12 am

NickolayAv wrote:
Do they plan to increase frequency on existing routes? Not sure it makes sense to add so many new destinations when the majority of their destinations are only once or twice weekly.


I would hope so. For example, I believe their existing BOS service is only 1x weekly, and the utilization is super low to boot: RAI-BOS arrives on a Thursday afternoon and the return BOS-RAI operates on the following Monday morning.
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:19 am

This expansion is supported by Icelandair. FI is currently flying with 1 757 there but later on they will receive their own aircraft managed by Loftleidir. The ultimate goal is to turn it into a hub similar to KEF with 12 aircraft. Ultimately it's success really depends on whether the government of Cabo Verde does not meddle in the affairs of the airline, the infrastructure in SID which at present cannot sustain a transit hub operation, and if fares are low enough for them EU-Brazil/US-Africa to capture traffic beyond the diaspora.
 
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Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:20 am

I’m actually surprised that FI doesn’t parlay an extra section slot into service to JFK seasonally (in S18, FI had 2 flights into JFK within 30 minutes of each other on select dates). One plane is on the D4 registry for traffic rights, but the rest could be rotated in a diamond pattern: KEF-North America-SID-Europe-KEF.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:58 am

asuflyer wrote:
This expansion is supported by Icelandair. FI is currently flying with 1 757 there but later on they will receive their own aircraft managed by Loftleidir. The ultimate goal is to turn it into a hub similar to KEF with 12 aircraft. Ultimately it's success really depends on whether the government of Cabo Verde does not meddle in the affairs of the airline, the infrastructure in SID which at present cannot sustain a transit hub operation, and if fares are low enough for them EU-Brazil/US-Africa to capture traffic beyond the diaspora.

I read that Carbo Verde will eventually have three 757s, Icelandair will provide two 757s and another from different source. Any idea where this could be from?
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:40 am

juliuswong wrote:
asuflyer wrote:
This expansion is supported by Icelandair. FI is currently flying with 1 757 there but later on they will receive their own aircraft managed by Loftleidir. The ultimate goal is to turn it into a hub similar to KEF with 12 aircraft. Ultimately it's success really depends on whether the government of Cabo Verde does not meddle in the affairs of the airline, the infrastructure in SID which at present cannot sustain a transit hub operation, and if fares are low enough for them EU-Brazil/US-Africa to capture traffic beyond the diaspora.

I read that Carbo Verde will eventually have three 757s, Icelandair will provide two 757s and another from different source. Any idea where this could be from?


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Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:47 am

D4-CCG, ex-TF-FII is still in Icelandair colors.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:36 am

Why two Italian cities and not f.e. LHR or FRA?
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:48 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
Why two Italian cities and not f.e. LHR or FRA?


Most likely diaspora traffic.
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:49 am

Why IAD though? BOS has the VFR, but is there any significant Cape Verdean population in DC?
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:14 am

continental004 wrote:
AirbusOnly wrote:
Why two Italian cities and not f.e. LHR or FRA?


Most likely diaspora traffic.


If it's based in RAI would Portugal not make more sense for diaspora than Italy. After all they are more Portuguese centric. Which makes the Brazil service make more sense.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:57 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
Why two Italian cities and not f.e. LHR or FRA?


Thomas Cook and Tui between them fly several times a week to Boa Vista and Sal from LGW so there is perhaps too much competition to make a one or two weekly flight to LHR feasible.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:12 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
Why two Italian cities and not f.e. LHR or FRA?


The Cape Verde archipelago is a big tourist destination for Italians. There are direct charter flights from al least 6 or 7 Italian airports to a few of the islands in all seasons.
And given the plans for serving Brazilian cities as well, it makes sense to serve both Milan and Rome given the diaspora (and tourist)traffic between the two countries.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:40 am

continental004 wrote:
AirbusOnly wrote:
Why two Italian cities and not f.e. LHR or FRA?


Most likely diaspora traffic.

Same reason why they (used to) fly to Rotterdam. One of the largest Diaspora communities in Europe lives in / around Rotterdam. Expect them to return to Rotterdam as well. All trough it may be seasonal flights only around the summer and winter holidays.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:52 am

I see one problem with the expansion plan. Icelandair themselves lost the use of 9 frames, 6 737-8 and 3 737-9 this summer. Instead of having extra 757-200 available this summer, the fleet is suddenly stretched. The availability of frames at Icelandair, will influence the availability of frames for Capo Verde Airlines.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:39 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
I see one problem with the expansion plan. Icelandair themselves lost the use of 9 frames, 6 737-8 and 3 737-9 this summer. Instead of having extra 757-200 available this summer, the fleet is suddenly stretched. The availability of frames at Icelandair, will influence the availability of frames for Capo Verde Airlines.


That might be the the reason why FI is going to lease 3 B763s until late SEP.
 
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Re: Cabo Verde Airlines Plans Lagos, Luanda, Milan, Rome, and Washington D.C. in 2019

Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:55 pm

juliuswong wrote:
asuflyer wrote:
This expansion is supported by Icelandair. FI is currently flying with 1 757 there but later on they will receive their own aircraft managed by Loftleidir. The ultimate goal is to turn it into a hub similar to KEF with 12 aircraft. Ultimately it's success really depends on whether the government of Cabo Verde does not meddle in the affairs of the airline, the infrastructure in SID which at present cannot sustain a transit hub operation, and if fares are low enough for them EU-Brazil/US-Africa to capture traffic beyond the diaspora.

I read that Carbo Verde will eventually have three 757s, Icelandair will provide two 757s and another from different source. Any idea where this could be from?


This is really not surprising. The plan all along was to utilize the same TATL model that FI uses and increase the fleet to 10 752's from FI as they start getting the MAX's delivered.
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