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First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:55 pm

Today was delivered the first A321LR to TAP, 152Y 16C cabin

https://twitter.com/tapairportugal/stat ... 0902033408

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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:02 pm

Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:11 pm

dfpinto wrote:
Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.


I mean it's two more than the A330s have…
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:13 pm

Surprised they used the standard Airbus interior as opposed to the Airspace interior that AA has on their NEOs.
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:18 pm

Vctony wrote:
Surprised they used the standard Airbus interior as opposed to the Airspace interior that AA has on their NEOs.


IIRC the A320 family will have Airspace available only from 2020. I think the only difference AA has compared to the ceos is the larger overhead bins.
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:55 pm

dfpinto wrote:
Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.


Thrones as in toilets?
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:01 pm

What do you mean by 4 thrones ?
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:04 pm

Iluvtofly wrote:
What do you mean by 4 thrones ?


What is usually and historically a throne? Then look carefully at the first picture.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:08 pm

Thrones are the four C seats that don’t have neighbors. I like that they’ve used warm colors.
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:30 pm

Prost wrote:
Thrones are the four C seats that don’t have neighbors. I like that they’ve used warm colors.


Oh I see - what brilliant seats to have.

I thought it meant the colloquial term throne, and that this little C section of the plane has four toilets! That would surely be a record on the toilet-to-seat ratio!
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:36 pm

Those Yellow mood lights actually looks good.

Quite Surprising.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:48 pm

So a 321LR is just a 97t 321NX with three ACTs?
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:58 pm

Iluvtofly wrote:
What do you mean by 4 thrones ?


Basically jetBlues front cabin without the closed suites license and marketplace & tighter seat pitch in Y cabin.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:08 pm

Have they announced what routes they're using their first one on?
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:22 pm

aviationjunky wrote:
Have they announced what routes they're using their first one on?
TLV (currently using a ex primera A321N) should be the first, then EWR or NAT I think
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:32 pm

Looks absolutely fantastic , thrones are brilliant , hopefully EI will be very similar , no need for silly doors
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:45 pm

A321LR will be the cornerstone of TAP’s TATL expansion strategy.
OPO-EWR, LIS-IAD/ATL what else is on the cards?
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:51 pm

aviationlover7 wrote:
A321LR will be the cornerstone of TAP’s TATL expansion strategy.
OPO-EWR, LIS-IAD/ATL what else is on the cards?


Maybe YUL, when it comes online? Also, I know it is not part of the stated plans for now, but I think they could probably put this to work profitably as well to either Providence or Hartford, given the ties to Portugal (granted, mostly the Azores) and the general lack of competition in the area. And if they are willing to take on Delta at ATL, why not take on AA at PHL?

If the situation in Venezuela ever improves, this would also be a perfect plane for FNC-CCS.
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:32 pm

I love how the window frames are a dark color, gives the cabin a more luxurious feel, so are those 2 lavatories behind biz, or is it a closet + lav? I Love the cabin, can't wait to see it In person at some point
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:41 pm

Sorry if I started a discussion about toilets!
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:07 am

itripreport wrote:
I love how the window frames are a dark color, gives the cabin a more luxurious feel, so are those 2 lavatories behind biz, or is it a closet + lav? I Love the cabin, can't wait to see it In person at some point

Looks like a closet (to the left on the pic) and a lavatory door (on the right) to me.

This looks like a great cabin to fly mid-haul! Can't wait for a trip report.

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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:29 am

Only a matter of time before B6 orders the 321LR.
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:13 pm

dfpinto wrote:
Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.

I couldn't care less for the "throne" seat. I much prefer having a proper window seat. In the throne seat the window is too far and you have to get out of your seat to actually look out of the window. No thank you.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:10 pm

Does TP still fly to Moscow? Will they be putting these on that route? They used to have to block seats on their A320s to make the trip westbound, but maybe the regular A320neo has the performance to do it unrestricted without having to step up to the LR.

I do the OPO-EWR route fairly frequently so I guess I will be trying these out sooner rather than later. Having the increased frequency will be nice, as connecting through LIS is always a pain, but can't say I love the cabin (at least in the mood lighting colors they are using in these pictures).
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:46 pm

Pyrex wrote:
Does TP still fly to Moscow? Will they be putting these on that route? They used to have to block seats on their A320s to make the trip westbound, but maybe the regular A320neo has the performance to do it unrestricted without having to step up to the LR..


Yes, they continue to fly. The problem with Moscow has to do with the alternate airport, I think it's Helsinki. But a normal Neo should do it, I suppose.
Probably the best for that route are those ex. Primera A321Neos that TAP acquired as they have a slightly less dense cabin that the regular ones.

Pyrex wrote:
I do the OPO-EWR route fairly frequently so I guess I will be trying these out sooner rather than later. Having the increased frequency will be nice, as connecting through LIS is always a pain, but can't say I love the cabin (at least in the mood lighting colors they are using in these pictures).


I think it's June 1 that will debut on the OPO-EWR route. Curiously, OPO will receive two of the first LRs, from TAP and Air Transat
 
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:19 pm

Love the details on the windows. Way to go TP!
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:28 pm

aviationlover7 wrote:
A321LR will be the cornerstone of TAP’s TATL expansion strategy.
OPO-EWR, LIS-IAD/ATL what else is on the cards?


321LRs won't have reliable winter range for many plausible U.S. destinations outside of the Northeast and MidAtlantic: LIS-BOS/NYC/IAD. Plan the tech stops now for LIS-ORD or ATL.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:46 pm

airbazar wrote:
dfpinto wrote:
Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.

I couldn't care less for the "throne" seat. I much prefer having a proper window seat. In the throne seat the window is too far and you have to get out of your seat to actually look out of the window. No thank you.

Not unless you're really short. I've never had an issue looking out the window on jetBlue's Mint throne seats, and I'm only 5'8''/173cm.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:29 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
aviationlover7 wrote:
A321LR will be the cornerstone of TAP’s TATL expansion strategy.
OPO-EWR, LIS-IAD/ATL what else is on the cards?


321LRs won't have reliable winter range for many plausible U.S. destinations outside of the Northeast and MidAtlantic: LIS-BOS/NYC/IAD. Plan the tech stops now for LIS-ORD or ATL.


They did configure the cabin with 171 seats (3 class) which is supposed to be lower compared to the advertised range of 4,000nmi for 206 passengers in 2 class configurations by Airbus.
Presumably they would also reduce big percentages of the cargo payload during winter to make the range workable. I would say it would be achievable for the whole East Coast.

Besides, big percentages of major cities in North America are located in East Coast anyway. It's not like they want to break into places like Denver or Phoenix.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:27 pm

NeBaNi wrote:
airbazar wrote:
dfpinto wrote:
Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.

I couldn't care less for the "throne" seat. I much prefer having a proper window seat. In the throne seat the window is too far and you have to get out of your seat to actually look out of the window. No thank you.

Not unless you're really short. I've never had an issue looking out the window on jetBlue's Mint throne seats, and I'm only 5'8''/173cm.

Well yes, if all you want is to look at the horizon. But when in flight I like looking down at the scenery below. Can't do that comfortably from these seats.
ewt340 wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
321LRs won't have reliable winter range for many plausible U.S. destinations outside of the Northeast and MidAtlantic: LIS-BOS/NYC/IAD. Plan the tech stops now for LIS-ORD or ATL.


They did configure the cabin with 171 seats (3 class) which is supposed to be lower compared to the advertised range of 4,000nmi for 206 passengers in 2 class configurations by Airbus.
Presumably they would also reduce big percentages of the cargo payload during winter to make the range workable. I would say it would be achievable for the whole East Coast.

Besides, big percentages of major cities in North America are located in East Coast anyway. It's not like they want to break into places like Denver or Phoenix.


I guess we'll find out soon enough. LIS-ORD is scheduled to start June 1st. That should give TP a pretty good indication of whether they can or cannot operate in Winter.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:24 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
aviationlover7 wrote:
A321LR will be the cornerstone of TAP’s TATL expansion strategy.
OPO-EWR, LIS-IAD/ATL what else is on the cards?

321LRs won't have reliable winter range for many plausible U.S. destinations outside of the Northeast and MidAtlantic: LIS-BOS/NYC/IAD. Plan the tech stops now for LIS-ORD or ATL.


Possible although on the limit some few winter days, but seems to me that ORD or ATL was never in the TAP plans for the 321LR. They can play with the pair A339/A321LR seasonally through the year between North and South America at some routes and days.

Some more pics: https://aviacao.pt/index.php?topic=4785 ... #msg118607
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:37 pm

I wonder if Philippine Airlines would be interested in ordering the A321LR, it might help take care of those occasional refueling stops. The airline might fit their long-haul strategy considering it seems to be getting a lot of interest in stuff like trans-Atlantic flights.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:19 am

filipinoavgeek wrote:
I wonder if Philippine Airlines would be interested in ordering the A321LR, it might help take care of those occasional refueling stops. The airline might fit their long-haul strategy considering it seems to be getting a lot of interest in stuff like trans-Atlantic flights.


Ey?
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:25 am

ewt340 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
I wonder if Philippine Airlines would be interested in ordering the A321LR, it might help take care of those occasional refueling stops. The airline might fit their long-haul strategy considering it seems to be getting a lot of interest in stuff like trans-Atlantic flights.


Ey?


Transatlantic in an A321LR from MNL is a lil tough.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:01 am

ikolkyo wrote:
ewt340 wrote:
filipinoavgeek wrote:
I wonder if Philippine Airlines would be interested in ordering the A321LR, it might help take care of those occasional refueling stops. The airline might fit their long-haul strategy considering it seems to be getting a lot of interest in stuff like trans-Atlantic flights.


Ey?


Transatlantic in an A321LR from MNL is a lil tough.

Sorry if I wasn't that clear, I was referring to the A321LR when I mentioned TATL. My point was considering the interest that the type is getting for small-but-long flights, I wondered if PR might be interested in getting them. After all, their current neos frequently can't do MNL-Australia non-stop.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:12 am

airbazar wrote:
dfpinto wrote:
Just a pity there are only 4 thrones in C. But great cabin, the game changer is finally here.

I couldn't care less for the "throne" seat. I much prefer having a proper window seat. In the throne seat the window is too far and you have to get out of your seat to actually look out of the window. No thank you.


Well, the standard Y window seat will be a perfect fit for you. Enjoy!

Congrats to TP, this really is a game changer (and a true 757 replacement).
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:42 pm

filipinoavgeek wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
ewt340 wrote:

Ey?


Transatlantic in an A321LR from MNL is a lil tough.

Sorry if I wasn't that clear, I was referring to the A321LR when I mentioned TATL. My point was considering the interest that the type is getting for small-but-long flights, I wondered if PR might be interested in getting them. After all, their current neos frequently can't do MNL-Australia non-stop.


They probably would at some point. It's not like they have to spent extra money to operate such type. Unlike B797.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:51 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but, it seem to me that some people in this thread are thinking that TP's LIS-ATL is actually going to happen.....
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Correct me if I'm wrong but, it seem to me that some people in this thread are thinking that TP's LIS-ATL is actually going to happen.....

Who knows but so far with the exception of YUL, they have delivered on every "wish" for N.America. At one point there were some members of this forum that were adamant that they could never compete even from BOS let alone MIA. When they first hinted at SFO, the reactions were the same as the ones we're seeing regarding ATL.
As I put it on the other thread, TP and DL have a an interline agreement and they have had it for decades. ATL is a huge DL hub. Surely they can grab some connecting traffic on both sides. I don't think DL is going to worry too much about a few dozen passengers per flight on TP at an airport where they move over 70 million annual passengers.
 
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Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:33 am

upperdeckfan wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but, it seem to me that some people in this thread are thinking that TP's LIS-ATL is actually going to happen.....


Not now. Maybe in the future after they test the market on bigger city. They probably gonna do A321R run on these new routes and then upgrade them to A330-900neo if it became a success. And then after the stabilized their presence in those major cities, they might eyeing up 2nd tier destinations in the East Coast.

I see cities like Orlando, Philly, Charlotte, Baltimore, Atlanta, Detroit, and restarting Montreal would be the next choice for their expansion.

Obviously using A321LR would mean way lower risk compared to A330-200. 168 seats vs 269 seats. That's a really big difference between the capacity. And A321LR is pretty efficient compared to the A330-200 too. So their risk would be significantly lower compared to back in the day.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:24 am

Has the 321LR already started flying for TP?
 
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Bit weird that there’s no door #2
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:40 am

ewt340 wrote:
upperdeckfan wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but, it seem to me that some people in this thread are thinking that TP's LIS-ATL is actually going to happen.....


Not now. Maybe in the future after they test the market on bigger city. They probably gonna do A321R run on these new routes and then upgrade them to A330-900neo if it became a success. And then after the stabilized their presence in those major cities, they might eyeing up 2nd tier destinations in the East Coast.

I see cities like Orlando, Philly, Charlotte, Baltimore, Atlanta, Detroit, and restarting Montreal would be the next choice for their expansion.

Obviously using A321LR would mean way lower risk compared to A330-200. 168 seats vs 269 seats. That's a really big difference between the capacity. And A321LR is pretty efficient compared to the A330-200 too. So their risk would be significantly lower compared to back in the day.


TP didn't order 50 A321LR's but only 12 and their plans are to fly them to Africa and Brazil together with NE US.

I bet TP will rather use an A321LR to NAT or FOR than to PHL or CLT. Hands down.
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:31 am

upperdeckfan wrote:
ewt340 wrote:
upperdeckfan wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but, it seem to me that some people in this thread are thinking that TP's LIS-ATL is actually going to happen.....


Not now. Maybe in the future after they test the market on bigger city. They probably gonna do A321R run on these new routes and then upgrade them to A330-900neo if it became a success. And then after the stabilized their presence in those major cities, they might eyeing up 2nd tier destinations in the East Coast.

I see cities like Orlando, Philly, Charlotte, Baltimore, Atlanta, Detroit, and restarting Montreal would be the next choice for their expansion.

Obviously using A321LR would mean way lower risk compared to A330-200. 168 seats vs 269 seats. That's a really big difference between the capacity. And A321LR is pretty efficient compared to the A330-200 too. So their risk would be significantly lower compared to back in the day.


TP didn't order 50 A321LR's but only 12 and their plans are to fly them to Africa and Brazil together with NE US.

I bet TP will rather use an A321LR to NAT or FOR than to PHL or CLT. Hands down.


True, but they wouldn't use all 14 of them for NAT and FOR.

Pretty sure if they want to expand to East Coast they would goes with A321LR instead of A330-900neo.
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:41 pm

TAP first A321LR routes will be LIS-TLV and OPO-EWR
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Wed May 01, 2019 6:25 pm

AECM wrote:
TAP first A321LR routes will be LIS-TLV and OPO-EWR


Is it already deployed on LIS-TLV?
 
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Wed May 01, 2019 7:13 pm

No, TAP first A321LR was delivered on April 5 and is still on the ground... Most likely due to delays in the certification from the Portuguese Civil Aviation Authority.
TLV route is using two A321neo that came from Primera (CS-TJN and CS-TJM)
 
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Sun May 12, 2019 3:15 pm

Looks like the LR had its maiden commercial flight to PRG.
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Sun May 12, 2019 3:44 pm

moyangmm wrote:
So a 321LR is just a 97t 321NX with three ACTs?


Basically yes. 0-3 ACT´s depending on customer requirements. The third ACT eats into payload, both weight and volume. The basic airplane has a higher MTOW, and lighter OWE due to removal of door 2.
 
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Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

Sun May 12, 2019 5:17 pm

Despite the fact that my last flight with TP was massively delayed, I have huge respect for what they are delivering right now as a product. I was in one of their refreshed A330s in J, and it is solidly competitive in terms of quality and experience compared to most TATL J experiences. Yet the fares are much more reasonable, the connectivity is excellent, and it belongs to an alliance. 321LRs like this are the future of TATL for quite a few carriers, there is nothing inferior to this experience over what the A330s offer.
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