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easyJet Europe new callsign

Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:36 pm

easyjet Europe has just started to use its new callsign for all aircraft registered in Austria OE.
They now have ´easy’ for UK registered aircraft, ´topswiss’ for swiss registered and the new addition ´alpine ´ for Austria.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:43 pm

I like Alpine.
Actually, I really like that call sign.

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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:48 pm

Hang on, how does that work with stored flight plans? No more swapping OE and G on the same flight day after day? Fixed routes for each AOC now?

FR24 would suggest “yes” to my own question :)
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:01 pm

And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

EC was previously used by British Airways’ French subsidiary openskies. Now the company has rebranded into LEVEL France, EC was changed to LV
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:59 am

Aisak wrote:
And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

EC was previously used by British Airways’ French subsidiary openskies. Now the company has rebranded into LEVEL France, EC was changed to LV


Didn't know that. It must have been nice for the crews, going from premium full service airline to a low cost, with the blandest branding ever. At least they kept their jobs (with decreased wages, probably?).

Are there many more examples of IATA codes switching to better the airline brand/name? like if Ryanair got to be RY (unused AFAIK) instead of FR.
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:54 am

AtomicGarden wrote:
Are there many more examples of IATA codes switching to better the airline brand/name? like if Ryanair got to be RY (unused AFAIK) instead of FR.


Virgin Australia switched to VA at the time they rebranded from Virgin Blue, who had previously used DJ.
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:43 am

AtomicGarden wrote:
Aisak wrote:
And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

EC was previously used by British Airways’ French subsidiary openskies. Now the company has rebranded into LEVEL France, EC was changed to LV


Didn't know that. It must have been nice for the crews, going from premium full service airline to a low cost, with the blandest branding ever. At least they kept their jobs (with decreased wages, probably?).


Who says wage decreases? I'm sure the crew will be absolutely heartbroken to at the loss of their mangy, 25 year old 757s and distraught that they have been replaced with brand new, state-of-the-art widebodies.
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:58 am

AtomicGarden wrote:
Aisak wrote:
And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

EC was previously used by British Airways’ French subsidiary openskies. Now the company has rebranded into LEVEL France, EC was changed to LV


Didn't know that. It must have been nice for the crews, going from premium full service airline to a low cost, with the blandest branding ever. At least they kept their jobs (with decreased wages, probably?).

Are there many more examples of IATA codes switching to better the airline brand/name? like if Ryanair got to be RY (unused AFAIK) instead of FR.


easyJet has one of the worst paint jobs the world has ever seen yet its pilots enjoy very good terms and conditions. The moral of the story being paint jobs and terms and conditions are wholly irrelevant.

And up at the pointy end its always full service even if passengers are paying for their food or receiving 'free' foods so I doubt they care. I'd rather be part of a brand that's being heavily invested in throughout Europe as opposed to an oddball one off brand focused on just one city pair. Anyways, they say 'blue and green should never be seen' but LEVEL'S branding works. I like it.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:25 am

Yes that is a nice RT callsign.

Their ICAO code is EJU, they started introducing it on selected flightplans on 30 March.

Aisak wrote:
And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

Which is pretty much irrelevant since like the other two Easyjet companies they don't use the IATA codes on tickets or flightboards. When I am issued my ticket to Barcelona it clearly says EJU6671.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:08 pm

skipness1E wrote:
Hang on, how does that work with stored flight plans? No more swapping OE and G on the same flight day after day? Fixed routes for each AOC now?

FR24 would suggest “yes” to my own question :)

If you book on easyJet.com, it now states (as of the original Brexit weekend at the end of March) during booking (albeit in the small print at the bottom of the page) if the flight is EZY, EZS or EJU operated.

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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:55 pm

ELBOB wrote:
Aisak wrote:
And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

Which is pretty much irrelevant since like the other two Easyjet companies they don't use the IATA codes on tickets or flightboards. When I am issued my ticket to Barcelona it clearly says EJU6671.


Until now I’ve seen the code U2, shared between Easyjet Ltd and Easyjet Switzerland, quite a lot of times....

Maybe they now prefer to use the 3 letter code, which is unique for each airline (EZY, EZS and EJU) so they don’t have trouble stating under which rights they are flying. Previously they just didn’t care.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:11 pm

How was Alpine not already taken? Great callsign.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:35 am

FlapsOne wrote:
easyJet has one of the worst paint jobs the world has ever seen


Do they? I think you are being unfair to Lufthansa, Air France, United, Japan Airlines, China Eastern and dozens of other airlines who have honestly fought for that title. :biggrin:
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:23 am

Alpine is really great indeed; however, doesn't "topswiss" sound similar to "swiss" and might lead to confusion?
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:05 am

stylo777 wrote:
Alpine is really great indeed; however, doesn't "topswiss" sound similar to "swiss" and might lead to confusion?


True. I believe they inherited the callsign. I wonder why they don’t change it. TUI, bmi (peace be upon them) and Thomas Cook all changed their call signs over the last few years. I imagine it would be just a paperwork exercise.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:14 am

workhorse wrote:
FlapsOne wrote:
easyJet has one of the worst paint jobs the world has ever seen


Do they? I think you are being unfair to Lufthansa, Air France, United, Japan Airlines, China Eastern and dozens of other airlines who have honestly fought for that title. :biggrin:


You see it’s funny isn’t it how we all see different things when we look at a paint job? I really like JAL and get the feeling of simplicity, efficiency, precision, order and a conservative, humble approach which seem to reflect Japan quite well. It’s not exciting, but it works. United has a confused identity trying to keep two worker groups happy who after a decade still see themselves as two people operating under one umbrella brand. Time it was replaced by something totally new.

I also see paint jobs that just could have been great but sadly didn’t make it. Azerbaijan could look amazing, except they decided to write ‘Azerbaijan’ in what looks like a Word 95 typeface.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:55 pm

FlapsOne wrote:
stylo777 wrote:
Alpine is really great indeed; however, doesn't "topswiss" sound similar to "swiss" and might lead to confusion?


True. I believe they inherited the callsign. I wonder why they don’t change it. TUI, bmi (peace be upon them) and Thomas Cook all changed their call signs over the last few years. I imagine it would be just a paperwork exercise.


The "Topswiss" callsign came from the old TEA Switzerland, the source of easyJet Switzerland's first few aircraft, B737-300s back in the day. No confusion worries in Basel (no Swiss flights here) and Zurich (no easyJet Switzerland flights there) and in Geneva they somehow manage the situation ...

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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:22 pm

FlapsOne wrote:
workhorse wrote:
FlapsOne wrote:
easyJet has one of the worst paint jobs the world has ever seen


Do they? I think you are being unfair to Lufthansa, Air France, United, Japan Airlines, China Eastern and dozens of other airlines who have honestly fought for that title. :biggrin:


You see it’s funny isn’t it how we all see different things when we look at a paint job? I really like JAL and get the feeling of simplicity, efficiency, precision, order and a conservative, humble approach which seem to reflect Japan quite well. It’s not exciting, but it works. United has a confused identity trying to keep two worker groups happy who after a decade still see themselves as two people operating under one umbrella brand. Time it was replaced by something totally new.

I also see paint jobs that just could have been great but sadly didn’t make it. Azerbaijan could look amazing, except they decided to write ‘Azerbaijan’ in what looks like a Word 95 typeface.


OK, so I see we agree on LH, AF and MU. :devil:
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:32 pm

Joelatbsl wrote:
FlapsOne wrote:
stylo777 wrote:
Alpine is really great indeed; however, doesn't "topswiss" sound similar to "swiss" and might lead to confusion?


True. I believe they inherited the callsign. I wonder why they don’t change it. TUI, bmi (peace be upon them) and Thomas Cook all changed their call signs over the last few years. I imagine it would be just a paperwork exercise.


The "Topswiss" callsign came from the old TEA Switzerland, the source of easyJet Switzerland's first few aircraft, B737-300s back in the day. No confusion worries in Basel (no Swiss flights here) and Zurich (no easyJet Switzerland flights there) and in Geneva they somehow manage the situation ...

JOEL

Well, the concentration of both airlines at mentioned airports is surely correct, but those aircraft/airline fly pretty much in the same airspace (EU).
On the other hand, whom am I to tell. I'm sure they crosschecked with the authorities beforehand ;)
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:00 pm

HBJZA wrote:
easyjet Europe has just started to use its new callsign for all aircraft registered in Austria OE.
They now have ´easy’ for UK registered aircraft, ´topswiss’ for swiss registered and the new addition ´alpine ´ for Austria.


"Topswiss", hahaha...I always understood "Topsis" on the radio and wondered about the sense in that.
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:13 am

zkojq wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
Aisak wrote:
And their new IATA code is EC. Funny enough.

EC was previously used by British Airways’ French subsidiary openskies. Now the company has rebranded into LEVEL France, EC was changed to LV


Didn't know that. It must have been nice for the crews, going from premium full service airline to a low cost, with the blandest branding ever. At least they kept their jobs (with decreased wages, probably?).


Who says wage decreases? I'm sure the crew will be absolutely heartbroken to at the loss of their mangy, 25 year old 757s and distraught that they have been replaced with brand new, state-of-the-art widebodies.


I did say probably. Glad nobody took a bite at their paychecks.
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:33 am

N766UA wrote:
How was Alpine not already taken? Great callsign.

Alpine Air is used in America
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:40 am

stylo777 wrote:
Joelatbsl wrote:
FlapsOne wrote:

True. I believe they inherited the callsign. I wonder why they don’t change it. TUI, bmi (peace be upon them) and Thomas Cook all changed their call signs over the last few years. I imagine it would be just a paperwork exercise.


The "Topswiss" callsign came from the old TEA Switzerland, the source of easyJet Switzerland's first few aircraft, B737-300s back in the day. No confusion worries in Basel (no Swiss flights here) and Zurich (no easyJet Switzerland flights there) and in Geneva they somehow manage the situation ...

JOEL

Well, the concentration of both airlines at mentioned airports is surely correct, but those aircraft/airline fly pretty much in the same airspace (EU).
On the other hand, whom am I to tell. I'm sure they crosschecked with the authorities beforehand ;)


Topswiss is the older callsign of the two, originating in the 1990s at least, if not earlier. GVA as well as the lower ACC levels around GVA and ZRH may be the only areas where there is a high concentration of both, Swiss and Topswiss at the same time. And then for visual identification on the ground, one could still refer to an "easyJet" A319 or A320 in Geneva at any time.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:02 am

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Anyways, they say 'blue and green should never be seen' but LEVEL'S branding works. I like it.



Please..... LEVEL’s livery is what you get when you rely on someone using Microsoft Paint(TM) 1994 edition to design your livery.

You can literally see how much IAG saved on design overheads.
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:49 am

vhtje wrote:
FlapsOne wrote:
Anyways, they say 'blue and green should never be seen' but LEVEL'S branding works. I like it.



Please..... LEVEL’s livery is what you get when you rely on someone using Microsoft Paint(TM) 1994 edition to design your livery.

You can literally see how much IAG saved on design overheads.


I know. I’m odd, but I really like it. Not just the paint job, but the branding as a whole. Website has way too much black on it and is a bit much, but I just think as a brand it works. It’s simple, clean, low cost. Even the safety video is low budget but they carry it off. There’s no dancing or rapping/hip hop (I’m looking at you ANZ) it’s just simple, clean and a bit of fun.

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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:18 pm

FlapsOne wrote:
stylo777 wrote:
Alpine is really great indeed; however, doesn't "topswiss" sound similar to "swiss" and might lead to confusion?


True. I believe they inherited the callsign. I wonder why they don’t change it. TUI, bmi (peace be upon them) and Thomas Cook all changed their call signs over the last few years. I imagine it would be just a paperwork exercise.

Well actually easyJet Switzerland TOPSWISS existed before Swiss International. It was Swissair back then so the 2 call signs were quite different. Topswiss vs swissair.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:23 pm

There used to be a 146 operator called Alpine.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:53 pm

AtomicGarden wrote:
Are there many more examples of IATA codes switching to better the airline brand/name? like if Ryanair got to be RY (unused AFAIK) instead of FR.


One of the more famous examples was USAir switching from AL (for predecessor Allegheny) to US.
 
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Re: easyJet Europe new callsign

Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:13 am

ScottB wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
Are there many more examples of IATA codes switching to better the airline brand/name? like if Ryanair got to be RY (unused AFAIK) instead of FR.


One of the more famous examples was USAir switching from AL (for predecessor Allegheny) to US.


Well that was a neat change!

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Virgin Australia switched to VA at the time they rebranded from Virgin Blue, who had previously used DJ.


That's a cool and adequate change too. Wonder why this doesn't happen more often...
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