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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:13 pm

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Mahan isn't really a regular civilian airline any more, its major shareholder is a "charity" called "Mowla al Movaheddin" which in turn is owned by the iranian revolutionary guard. In the past years it has been used to transport weapons as well has "human resources" to wherever the revolutionary guards have their hands in. Syria, Yemen, across Africa... That's also why it has been banned from the EU.
So yeah, the outbound flight will most likely have some supplies and personnel for Maduro on board, the inbound whatever the Mullahs fancy from Maduro. And the way things currently are, gold is probably indeed the only thing he has left to offer.

Oh no. There's dope as well...
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:23 pm

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Oh no. There's dope as well...

Oh yeah, fair point!
And Iran has pretty good dope trade routes to Europe from their own and Afghanistan's dope production too.
 
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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:33 pm

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Blerg wrote:
Bricktop wrote:
Well done for what exactly? :confused:


For snatching the contract? It's not like they are not being paid to operate these flights.


So.....Congrats on snatching up a route that no other air carrier on the planet including charter operators wants to operate?

Without getting political, it's funny that they launched this route with no advance notice or making potential passengers aware making me think the cabin was pretty empty and the cargo hold was pretty full...


We don't know no one else wanted the contract, all we know is that Mahan got it. As for what they carried, it's besides the point as this is a civil aviation discussion.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:30 pm

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We don't know no one else wanted the contract, all we know is that Mahan got it. As for what they carried, it's besides the point as this is a civil aviation discussion.

Yeah, let's completely ignore the fact that any non-nefarious reason for this flight is commercially absurd. Apologists of a.net unite! You have nothing to lose but your self-respect!
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:20 pm

Blerg wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Blerg wrote:

For snatching the contract? It's not like they are not being paid to operate these flights.


So.....Congrats on snatching up a route that no other air carrier on the planet including charter operators wants to operate?

Without getting political, it's funny that they launched this route with no advance notice or making potential passengers aware making me think the cabin was pretty empty and the cargo hold was pretty full...


We don't know no one else wanted the contract, all we know is that Mahan got it. As for what they carried, it's besides the point as this is a civil aviation discussion.

Why are we assuming there was a “contract” for Mahan to “get”?

Mahan was likely directed by their owners to make this flight.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:52 pm

Polot wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

So.....Congrats on snatching up a route that no other air carrier on the planet including charter operators wants to operate?

Without getting political, it's funny that they launched this route with no advance notice or making potential passengers aware making me think the cabin was pretty empty and the cargo hold was pretty full...


We don't know no one else wanted the contract, all we know is that Mahan got it. As for what they carried, it's besides the point as this is a civil aviation discussion.

Why are we assuming there was a “contract” for Mahan to “get”?

Mahan was likely directed by their owners to make this flight.


Even if they were, costs are probably covered by the Iranian government. I highly doubt they are operating these flights at a loss. Good for Mahan, it should provide them with some extra revenue. Wasn't ATA chartered in the past by the US military? I remember they even had a refuelling stop in Larnaca, Cyprus.
 
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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:53 pm

Zeppi wrote:
Mahan isn't really a regular civilian airline any more, its major shareholder is a "charity" called "Mowla al Movaheddin" which in turn is owned by the iranian revolutionary guard. In the past years it has been used to transport weapons as well has "human resources" to wherever the revolutionary guards have their hands in. Syria, Yemen, across Africa... That's also why it has been banned from the EU.
So yeah, the outbound flight will most likely have some supplies and personnel for Maduro on board, the inbound whatever the Mullahs fancy from Maduro. And the way things currently are, gold is probably indeed the only thing he has left to offer.


Out of curiosity, who owns Iran Air and Iran Aseman?
 
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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 pm

ualcsr wrote:
Zeppi wrote:
Mahan isn't really a regular civilian airline any more, its major shareholder is a "charity" called "Mowla al Movaheddin" which in turn is owned by the iranian revolutionary guard. In the past years it has been used to transport weapons as well has "human resources" to wherever the revolutionary guards have their hands in. Syria, Yemen, across Africa... That's also why it has been banned from the EU.
So yeah, the outbound flight will most likely have some supplies and personnel for Maduro on board, the inbound whatever the Mullahs fancy from Maduro. And the way things currently are, gold is probably indeed the only thing he has left to offer.


Out of curiosity, who owns Iran Air and Iran Aseman?


Not sure if that’s relevant as neither has been found to have engaged in clandestine ops. IR has its older planes banned from the EU (727 and 747), while EP is banned altogether over safety issues.
 
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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:04 pm

ualcsr wrote:
Zeppi wrote:
Mahan isn't really a regular civilian airline any more, its major shareholder is a "charity" called "Mowla al Movaheddin" which in turn is owned by the iranian revolutionary guard. In the past years it has been used to transport weapons as well has "human resources" to wherever the revolutionary guards have their hands in. Syria, Yemen, across Africa... That's also why it has been banned from the EU.
So yeah, the outbound flight will most likely have some supplies and personnel for Maduro on board, the inbound whatever the Mullahs fancy from Maduro. And the way things currently are, gold is probably indeed the only thing he has left to offer.


Out of curiosity, who owns Iran Air and Iran Aseman?
According to Wikipedia (I know, unreliable source), IR is 60% owned by the Ministry of Roads and Urban Development while EP was apparently privatised in the late 2000s or so.
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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:40 pm

Blerg wrote:
Polot wrote:
Blerg wrote:

We don't know no one else wanted the contract, all we know is that Mahan got it. As for what they carried, it's besides the point as this is a civil aviation discussion.

Why are we assuming there was a “contract” for Mahan to “get”?

Mahan was likely directed by their owners to make this flight.


Even if they were, costs are probably covered by the Iranian government. I highly doubt they are operating these flights at a loss. Good for Mahan, it should provide them with some extra revenue. Wasn't ATA chartered in the past by the US military? I remember they even had a refuelling stop in Larnaca, Cyprus.


”Good for Mahan” making money by benefitting the dictator of Venezuela?

This is nothing like the US military charters.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:24 pm

ualcsr wrote:
Zeppi wrote:
Mahan isn't really a regular civilian airline any more, its major shareholder is a "charity" called "Mowla al Movaheddin" which in turn is owned by the iranian revolutionary guard. In the past years it has been used to transport weapons as well has "human resources" to wherever the revolutionary guards have their hands in. Syria, Yemen, across Africa... That's also why it has been banned from the EU.
So yeah, the outbound flight will most likely have some supplies and personnel for Maduro on board, the inbound whatever the Mullahs fancy from Maduro. And the way things currently are, gold is probably indeed the only thing he has left to offer.


Out of curiosity, who owns Iran Air and Iran Aseman?


No airline in Iran is too far away from the tentacles of the revolution, they are either government owned or related to it in some way or another. A good example is Mahan Air, controlled by a charity that is in turn controlled by the Revolutionary Guard.
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:44 pm

Anyone who doesn't see these flights for what they really are is in la la land.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:48 pm

Maybe I should run this past some of the moderators before I post it, or it risk be removed for being politics.... But as a happenstance, 4 tonnes of gold has "disappeared" from the vaults of the Central Bank of Venezuela during the last days (more precisely, since the beginning of the month). And this while tha bank is down to skeleton staff (mostly directors) due to water shortages in its offices.

The total of the gold sold off since the beginning of the year is 25 tonnes, while roughly 100 tonnes remain in the reserves.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:51 pm

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SCQ83 wrote:
OGLOBAL wrote:

well it somehow happened years ago .. Iran Air 655 ...


And this terror flight carries no passengers.

It actually did. A delegation of the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.


Yeah, to broker and sign the arms deal. Definitely not a revenue flight though.
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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:57 pm

Blerg wrote:
Polot wrote:
Blerg wrote:

We don't know no one else wanted the contract, all we know is that Mahan got it. As for what they carried, it's besides the point as this is a civil aviation discussion.

Why are we assuming there was a “contract” for Mahan to “get”?

Mahan was likely directed by their owners to make this flight.


Even if they were, costs are probably covered by the Iranian government. I highly doubt they are operating these flights at a loss. Good for Mahan, it should provide them with some extra revenue. Wasn't ATA chartered in the past by the US military? I remember they even had a refuelling stop in Larnaca, Cyprus.

It may be covered, it may not. Mahan is not some independent airline. If their owners tell them to operate the flight they are operating the flight no matter if it is profitable for Mahan or not. Mahan is just a tool to carry out the more important Iranian-Venezuelan deal. Mahan’s profitability/revenue is of no concern in this. There is no guarantee that Mahan are being paid for this.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:16 am

MalevTU134 wrote:
Maybe I should run this past some of the moderators before I post it, or it risk be removed for being politics.... But as a happenstance, 4 tonnes of gold has "disappeared" from the vaults of the Central Bank of Venezuela during the last days (more precisely, since the beginning of the month). And this while tha bank is down to skeleton staff (mostly directors) due to water shortages in its offices.

The total of the gold sold off since the beginning of the year is 25 tonnes, while roughly 100 tonnes remain in the reserves.


sold off as to buy arms ? or sold off as hidden in personal accounts abroad ??
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:49 am

10th of April and as per FR24, EP-MMR hasn´t left CCS yet.

No need to clarify then what´s going on.

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Re: Mahan Air Launches IKA-CCS...First Flight Already in the Air!

Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:30 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
IR has its older planes banned from the EU (727 and 747),.

Actually, their F100s and the single cargo 747 are banned. Iran Air doesn't have the 727 in service for quite some time, neither does Aseman for some weeks now.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:28 am

So much hate in this thread - but no surprise, as most forum members seem to be somewhat limited in their geopolitical view.
Putting this into context: two countries are isolated from the rest of the world and banned from trading with many other countries. Certainly not without good reasons, but in a larger context these governments are not more evil than several other very large countries. So one of these isolated countries sends a delegation of government officials to another one, aboard a civil A340-600, for business talks, and this is really all we know at this point. Were there passengers on board, and how did they book their tickets? Read the articles. This was not a scheduled passenger flight, but a government charter. Is the "Terror Express back in the air"? For chrissake, there are about 100 Terror Expresses in the air right at this moment, and none of them originated in Tehran.
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:56 am

Birdwatching wrote:
So much hate in this thread - but no surprise, as most forum members seem to be somewhat limited in their geopolitical view.
Putting this into context: two countries are isolated from the rest of the world and banned from trading with many other countries. Certainly not without good reasons, but in a larger context these governments are not more evil than several other very large countries. So one of these isolated countries sends a delegation of government officials to another one, aboard a civil A340-600, for business talks, and this is really all we know at this point. Were there passengers on board, and how did they book their tickets? Read the articles. This was not a scheduled passenger flight, but a government charter. Is the "Terror Express back in the air"? For chrissake, there are about 100 Terror Expresses in the air right at this moment, and none of them originated in Tehran.

Come to Venezuela (if you dare...most people don't) and then tell us that this government isn't more evil than that of most other countries (big or small). Watch people get robbed, eating from the garbage on the streets, getting their drinking water from a small river (looks more like a sewer) running through the heart of Caracas, children with leukaemia telling their mothers "Mom, stop struggling trying to get me medicines, it just makes both of us suffer, I'll rather die", entire cities go without electricity for 7 days in a row... How can you even consider comparing this murderous band of thugs to a government of any other country, apart from possibly North Korea? And in Pyongyang, you can walk the streets at 2am in total safety, whereas here in Venezuela you run the risk of being robbed and killed at 2pm, anywhere...a shopping centre, in your car, walking out through the door of your house...
Oh, and Venezuela isn't banned from trading with the World. Where did you get that from? The sanctions in place are against a handful (well, I think it is some 50 people by now) of the top brass of Maduro's gang of thieves. And if you buy something from the Venezuelan state, you have to make the payment to the Government that is upheld by the constitution, not the one clinging to the power by electoral fraud. I think that is quite reasonable... Those are all the sanctions that are in place.

With this in view, this flight can have no other motive than a) planning more repression of the Venezuelan people; b) delivery of arms and/or military advisors c) siphoning off a few tonnes more of Venezuelan gold/cocaine/rare minerals into Maduro's private stash or d) a combination of some/all of the above.

If you (and some other people on this thread) knew the reality on the ground and the true suffering that people here go through every day and every night, you would quickly change your opinion.

I invite you to Caracas for you to see. I will personally guide you. Take out a good life insurance before arriving, though.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:03 pm

Birdwatching wrote:
So much hate in this thread - but no surprise, as most forum members seem to be somewhat limited in their geopolitical view.
Putting this into context: two countries are isolated from the rest of the world and banned from trading with many other countries. Certainly not without good reasons, but in a larger context these governments are not more evil than several other very large countries. So one of these isolated countries sends a delegation of government officials to another one, aboard a civil A340-600, for business talks, and this is really all we know at this point. Were there passengers on board, and how did they book their tickets? Read the articles. This was not a scheduled passenger flight, but a government charter. Is the "Terror Express back in the air"? For chrissake, there are about 100 Terror Expresses in the air right at this moment, and none of them originated in Tehran.


Defining a terror express as a route with no real commercial purpose but flown by an airline engaging in regular scheduled service with a passenger configured aircraft, what other terror expresses exist not flown by W5?
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:05 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Birdwatching wrote:
So much hate in this thread - but no surprise, as most forum members seem to be somewhat limited in their geopolitical view.
Putting this into context: two countries are isolated from the rest of the world and banned from trading with many other countries. Certainly not without good reasons, but in a larger context these governments are not more evil than several other very large countries. So one of these isolated countries sends a delegation of government officials to another one, aboard a civil A340-600, for business talks, and this is really all we know at this point. Were there passengers on board, and how did they book their tickets? Read the articles. This was not a scheduled passenger flight, but a government charter. Is the "Terror Express back in the air"? For chrissake, there are about 100 Terror Expresses in the air right at this moment, and none of them originated in Tehran.

Come to Venezuela (if you dare...most people don't) and then tell us that this government isn't more evil than that of most other countries (big or small). Watch people get robbed, eating from the garbage on the streets, getting their drinking water from a small river (looks more like a sewer) running through the heart of Caracas, children with leukaemia telling their mothers "Mom, stop struggling trying to get me medicines, it just makes both of us suffer, I'll rather die", entire cities go without electricity for 7 days in a row... How can you even consider comparing this murderous band of thugs to a government of any otjer country, apart from possibly North Korea? And in Pyongyang, you can walk thevstreets at 2am in total safety, whereas here in Vebezuela you run the rist of being robbed and killed at 2pm, anywhere, a shopping centre, in your car, walking out through the door of your house...
Oh, and Venezuela isn't banned from trading with the World. Where did you get that from? The sanctions in place are against a handful (well, I think it is some 50 people by now) of the top brass of Maduro's gang of thieves. And if you buy something from Venezuela, you have to make the payment to the Government that is upheld by the constitution, not the one clinging to tje power by electoral fraud. I think that is quite fair... That's all the sanctions that are in place.

With this in view, this flight can have no other motive than a) planning more repression of the Venezuelan people; b) delivery of arms and/or military advisors c) siphoning off a few tonnes more of Venezuelan gold/cocaine/rare minerals into Maduro's private stash or d) a combination of some/all of the above.

If you (and some other people on this thread) knew the reality 0n the ground and the true suffering that people here go through every day and every night, you would quickly change your opinion.

I invite you to Caracas for you to see. I will personally guide you. Take out a good life insurance before arriving, though.

Thanks for the post, MalevTU134. I guess the moral-equivalency types are behind in their knowledge of the on-the-ground catastrophe that is day-to-day life in Venezuela. I have a friend from there, and he managed to get all his family out a few years ago. Take care, and good luck.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:19 pm

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Come to Venezuela (if you dare...most people don't) and then tell us that this government isn't more evil than that of most other countries (big or small).

I've actually been to Caracas many times, in better times though, I've been in Pyongyang too, and in Tehran, and in the capitals of about 100 additional countries, enough to have learned to go beyond the surface and look at the details as well as the broader context. No doubt Venezuela is a hell hole today, people living in terrible conditions because of a kleptocracy that has sucked all wealth of a prosperous country into the pockets of a few. But I'm always amazed how on this site the mention of certain countries is guaranteed to evoke replies like 90% in this thread, while freighters fly between the USA and Israel, Russia and Syria, China and who knows where, and nobody gives a damn. Apart from some very peaceful far off corners of the earth, fear and terror is carried aboard airliners every day and every night, but most people have no clue about it.
Thanks for your invitation to Caracas, I'll pass, but I'll get back to you in a couple of years when the horror is (hopefully) over, and I'll have some cervezas with you.
In the meantime, I'll be feeling much safer walking at 2AM in, let's say, Tehran, rather than Washington D.C. or Moscow.
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:35 pm

Birdwatching wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
Come to Venezuela (if you dare...most people don't) and then tell us that this government isn't more evil than that of most other countries (big or small).

I've actually been to Caracas many times, in better times though, I've been in Pyongyang too, and in Tehran, and in the capitals of about 100 additional countries, enough to have learned to go beyond the surface and look at the details as well as the broader context. No doubt Venezuela is a hell hole today, people living in terrible conditions because of a kleptocracy that has sucked all wealth of a prosperous country into the pockets of a few. But I'm always amazed how on this site the mention of certain countries is guaranteed to evoke replies like 90% in this thread, while freighters fly between the USA and Israel, Russia and Syria, China and who knows where, and nobody gives a damn. Apart from some very peaceful far off corners of the earth, fear and terror is carried aboard airliners every day and every night, but most people have no clue about it.
Thanks for your invitation to Caracas, I'll pass, but I'll get back to you in a couple of years when the horror is (hopefully) over, and I'll have some cervezas with you.
In the meantime, I'll be feeling much safer walking at 2AM in, let's say, Tehran, rather than Washington D.C. or Moscow.

I, too, have been to Pyongyang and probably more than 100 capitals of the World (haven't been fortunate enough to visit Tehran yet, but it's high on my list of places to go), but trust me, nothing compares to the Caracas of today. And it is flights like this one that ascertain that the horror and terror will not end, and our cerveza will have to be postponed indefinitely. Such a pity.

This is now getting overly political, and even I understand if some moderator will eliminate this post, but for the record: the difference between this flight and, say one between the US and Israel (with even the most "malificent" cargo on it), is that Israel is in the process (rightfully or not) to defend itself from an external threat. Venezuela is not facing any external threat, Maduro's military campaign is against his own people, with the only goal to stay in power, in order to steal some more. With no regard for human life or suffering, environmental disasters, or anything else. It is when a human being stops being human.

Mods, sorry. I just had to...
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:37 pm

thank birdwatching for contributing to the objectification of the whole debate here. I can support each of your words.I would like to remind the moderator MalevTU134 that a colleague has called for no political issues to be discussed here. But he does this first and full of emotions. That's not the purpose of this forum. Even the moderator should stick to the - own - rules.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:45 pm

AirbusOnly wrote:
thank birdwatching for contributing to the objectification of the whole debate here. I can support each of your words.I would like to remind the moderator MalevTU134 that a colleague has called for no political issues to be discussed here. But he does this first and full of emotions. That's not the purpose of this forum. Even the moderator should stick to the - own - rules.

How's the weather in Saint Petersburg? Or did they move the trolling factory to Moscow now?
1) I am not a moderator (go easy on the vodka, Svetoslav)
2) It wasn't emotional. It was factual. Big difference.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:46 pm

I, for one, am enjoying and learning a great deal from the discussion between Malev & Birdwatching.

How civilian aircraft are used to achieve non- civilian aims is interesting and enlightening. I also appreciate the on-the-ground Intel from Malev. Makes me feel for the people of Venezuela.

It would be a shame to remove these posts.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:23 pm

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Why isn't this plane shot down by an American or Israeli missile?


Due to the fact no one wants World War 3 to happen.


Yep. And the fact that it's a civilian aircraft. And that we arent at war with either party.

a.net seems to attract some of the same people as Youtube comments. Yeesh.
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:43 pm

Maybe Iranians really like Venezuelan women and Polar products :duck:
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:27 pm

With the IIRGC now being designated as a terrorist organization by the State Department I wonder if allied military can legally intercept the aircraft in international air space. If they find anything on board with ties to IIRGC they can shut down this avenue of transportation pretty easily.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:36 pm

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With the IIRGC now being designated as a terrorist organization by the State Department I wonder if allied military can legally intercept the aircraft in international air space. If they find anything on board with ties to IIRGC they can shut down this avenue of transportation pretty easily.

Depends whom you ask. The US designated them a terrorist organisation, and the US has no right to police international air space. That is why it is international... Now, this point of view is probably supported by the majority of countries, but the US usually deems itself to have global jurisdiction... But it would be a slippery slope... Next, Venezuela could proclaim, say, Avianca or LATAM a terrorist organisation and intercept their flights at will in international air space... I doubt anybody wants to go there.

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