Max Q wrote:Just saw a picture of this aircraft in the great set of SAA photographs on this site
So what was it doing there?
Did South African have scheduled service into IAH for a while ?
2travel2know2 wrote:IMHO, SA JNB-GIG-IAH might be a cash-cow now because current GIG-IAH demand.
But SA Star Alliance pal UA wouldn't like it that much.
jfk777 wrote:Definitely one of the world's more interesting flights. Another 747SP flight involving South Africa was a once weekly Qantas flight to Harare, Zimbabwae to " avoid" flying South Africa. The Aussies just flw next door, strange strategy.
leftcoast8 wrote:Now QF, BA, LH and other western airlines won't even touch Zim, it's just too unsafe there for flight crews to stay overnight.
I'm calling this out as bollocks. While Zimbabwe is in terrible shape and most airlines are not flying there because of the economic conditions and foreign currency shortages it's hardly unsafe to overnight in Harare. For all the problems that Zimbabwe has, safety is not really one of them. I say this as a South Africa who travels there often. Most South Africans would consider Harare vastly safer than Johannesburg or Cape Town!
leftcoast8 wrote:Well you know more than me since you've actually been to the place. I do know that EK713/EK714 gets into Harare at 4:50 pm then spends just 90 minutes on the ground before going right back to Lusaka at 6:30 pm. That's a pretty quick turnaround, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's in place so that the EK crew doesn't have to overnight in Harare.
leftcoast8 wrote:Also haven't there been massacres by government forces in Harare? There was that massacre back in August, and then the crackdown against fuel protests only a couple of months ago.
evanb wrote:leftcoast8 wrote:Well you know more than me since you've actually been to the place. I do know that EK713/EK714 gets into Harare at 4:50 pm then spends just 90 minutes on the ground before going right back to Lusaka at 6:30 pm. That's a pretty quick turnaround, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's in place so that the EK crew doesn't have to overnight in Harare.
What does the length of the turnaround have to do with where the crew stay? I'm not sure what the current arrangement is but last I knew the EK crew overnights in Harare, not Lusaka. SAA and Airlink crews also layover in Harare every-night.leftcoast8 wrote:Also haven't there been massacres by government forces in Harare? There was that massacre back in August, and then the crackdown against fuel protests only a couple of months ago.
Yes, there are well known risks of political violence in Zimbabwe, but away from the political violence, Zimbabwe is a remarkably safe place.
IAHWorldflyer wrote:Back on topic, didn't SAA around the same time serve MIA-GIG-JNB? So they would have had 3 US gateways, JFK, IAH, and MIA?
I have no idea what exactly prompted SAA to fly to Houston, though my guess would have been that in the '82-'85 time frame Houston was booming from the oil business, and would have been seen as the "next new thing". Also there was, and still is,a South African Consulate here, and they might have been connecting mining interests in North America and South Africa.
Also interesting is that before SonAir contracted with Atlas for the Chevron Express IAH-LAD service, it included a tech stop at SAL.
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