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Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:02 pm

I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200?

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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:12 pm

99% chance that is was a 727-200. The 737's flew out of LGB and ONT around that time period.
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:15 pm

GulfstreamGuy wrote:
I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200?

Thanks!
Jason


PSA got rid of their 737-200s in about 1976. PSA ordered the MD-80 in 1978 and retired the 727-200 in 1979 (IIRC).

The MD-80s were of course 2-3 seating. PSA had a few 727-100s but usually flew them on the OAK-SJC-LGB route.

I would deduce your friend flew on a 727-200.
 
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:17 pm

Coronado990 wrote:
99% chance that is was a 727-200. The 737's flew out of LGB and ONT around that time period.


PSA no longer flew 737-200s in that time frame.
 
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:32 pm

BoeingGuy wrote:
GulfstreamGuy wrote:
I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200?

Thanks!
Jason


PSA got rid of their 737-200s in about 1976. PSA ordered the MD-80 in 1978 and retired the 727-200 in 1979 (IIRC).

The MD-80s were of course 2-3 seating. PSA had a few 727-100s but usually flew them on the OAK-SJC-LGB route.

I would deduce your friend flew on a 727-200.


IIRC, the last 727s remained until around 1984/85, mostly replaced by MD-80s.

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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:36 pm

MD80 wrote:
BoeingGuy wrote:
GulfstreamGuy wrote:
I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200?

Thanks!
Jason


PSA got rid of their 737-200s in about 1976. PSA ordered the MD-80 in 1978 and retired the 727-200 in 1979 (IIRC).

The MD-80s were of course 2-3 seating. PSA had a few 727-100s but usually flew them on the OAK-SJC-LGB route.

I would deduce your friend flew on a 727-200.


IIRC, the last 727s remained until around 1984/85, mostly replaced by MD-80s.

Regards


Looks like you are correct. I just found a picture of one in 1984.
 
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:38 pm

MD80 wrote:
BoeingGuy wrote:
GulfstreamGuy wrote:
I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200?

Thanks!
Jason


PSA got rid of their 737-200s in about 1976. PSA ordered the MD-80 in 1978 and retired the 727-200 in 1979 (IIRC).

The MD-80s were of course 2-3 seating. PSA had a few 727-100s but usually flew them on the OAK-SJC-LGB route.

I would deduce your friend flew on a 727-200.


IIRC, the last 727s remained until around 1984/85, mostly replaced by MD-80s.

Regards


Weren't the 146's introduced in the mid-1980's?

Also, I think PS also had Electras during the late 1970's for TVL service.
 
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:49 pm

Weren't the 146's introduced in the mid-1980's?


I think, that PSA introduced the BAe 146 in 1984 and 24 aircraft were part of the fleet upon integration itno USAir. Initially seating 100 passengers, the arrangement was changed from 6- to 5-abreast seating and 85 seats after complaints by passengers and cabin crews.

Btw, the last Boeing 727 was probably retired after a flight from Las Vegas to San Diego on November 26th, 1984.
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:53 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
MD80 wrote:
BoeingGuy wrote:

PSA got rid of their 737-200s in about 1976. PSA ordered the MD-80 in 1978 and retired the 727-200 in 1979 (IIRC).

The MD-80s were of course 2-3 seating. PSA had a few 727-100s but usually flew them on the OAK-SJC-LGB route.

I would deduce your friend flew on a 727-200.


IIRC, the last 727s remained until around 1984/85, mostly replaced by MD-80s.

Regards


Weren't the 146's introduced in the mid-1980's?

Also, I think PS also had Electras during the late 1970's for TVL service.


The Electra left the fleet in 1979 and the 727 in 1984
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:54 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
MD80 wrote:
BoeingGuy wrote:

PSA got rid of their 737-200s in about 1976. PSA ordered the MD-80 in 1978 and retired the 727-200 in 1979 (IIRC).

The MD-80s were of course 2-3 seating. PSA had a few 727-100s but usually flew them on the OAK-SJC-LGB route.

I would deduce your friend flew on a 727-200.


IIRC, the last 727s remained until around 1984/85, mostly replaced by MD-80s.

Regards


Weren't the 146's introduced in the mid-1980's?

Also, I think PS also had Electras during the late 1970's for TVL service.


PSA had Electras in the 1960s prior to the 727s. They reintroduced them 1974-1979 to fly to TVL after Holiday Airlines folded. One of them bought second-hand in 1974 had been originally owned by PSA.
 
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Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:45 pm

PSA also took on a couple of DC-9-30s in the early 1980's. I flew on one SMF-PDX for a wedding around 1986 or so. I think they were ex-AC machines.

As to the BAe-146-200. - PSA did have customer issues with the tight space at 100 seats. We heard that tall-ish people couldn't sit fully upright in the window seats. PSA aired a cute commercial with a 146 landing and turning quickly onto the ramp; door opens and they start chucking-out seats. AirCal introduced the 146 not too long after PS, but with 85 seats as learned from the PS experience.

At the time the 146 was in trials and orders, the -200 was advertised as a 108-seater. Imagine! It was tight at 85. (And never mind needing a third flight attendant for those 8 extra seats.)
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