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JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:42 pm

Per email marketing from JetSuiteX and SFGate news, JetSuiteX (XE) is launching flights from OAK to BFI on July 1st. Initially, flights will be 3x daily Sunday - Friday, and 2x daily on Saturdays. Fares start at $99 and should hopefully be a nice change from current carriers. This will also be one of the longer XE flights.

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/J ... 786456.php
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:24 pm

Interesting add to their network.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:28 pm

I hope it's successful.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:43 pm

90 days and done...Flying within California is tough from Oakland. Goodluck, they're going to need it!
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:59 pm

Is this the only ticket the average Joe can purchase to BFI and is BFI significantly closer to Seattle than SEA or PAE?
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:00 pm

Biscayne738 wrote:
90 days and done...Flying within California is tough from Oakland. Goodluck, they're going to need it!


They've managed OAK-SNA/BUR for a while now. This is an even more unique route that could save people a lot of time as BFI is so conveniently located. This is just the beginning of their operations out of BFI and they have it all to themselves.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:02 pm

Does JetSuiteX use North Field for takeoff/landing at OAK since the FBO is on that side of the airport?
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:02 pm

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Is this the only ticket the average Joe can purchase to BFI and is BFI significantly closer to Seattle than SEA or PAE?


No it’s not. Kenmore flys Cessna 208’s from Boeing Field to Friday Harbor and Orcas Island which anyone can purchase.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:10 pm

I wonder if they have or ever will consider connecting flights in Oakland or Vegas. It might help their load factors a little bit.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:12 pm

SEA and BFI are actually pretty close, but BFI is that much closer to downtown, requires zero freeway driving, and obviously allows for speedy pickup and drop off vs SEA.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:22 pm

ytib wrote:
Does JetSuiteX use North Field for takeoff/landing at OAK since the FBO is on that side of the airport?


Yes, I notice when looking at Flightradar 24 that the usually use the North Field runways, but not always. I'm not sure what determines which runways they are allowed to use but I'm sure someone here will let us know.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:41 pm

Biscayne738 wrote:
90 days and done...Flying within California is tough from Oakland. Goodluck, they're going to need it!


I don't think they see themselves as mainly competing on price. They are marketing themselves as a more premium and exclusive product--"The Experience." Including not going thru TSA security, 36" pitch, 2-1 seating, free wi-fi and booze, and, the convenience of arriving at at their "private terminals" just 20 - 30 minutes before flight time.

"HOW DO I CHECK IN? Experience a new way of travel on JetSuiteX. We offer all the comforts of private air travel at commercial fares. We own and operate a fleet of the largest private jets on the market with regular, daily flights on which you can purchase by seat. Travel out of private terminals and escape the crowds, security lines, and wait times. Our E135s also have full flight attendant service, ample legroom (36 inch seat pitch), and, on our newest aircraft, power outlets in each row."

"WHAT IS AN FBO OR A PRIVATE TERMINAL? An FBO is short for "fixed base operators", or a small private air terminals that are typically away from commercial terminals alongside the tarmac or taxiway. These locations provide passenger and aircraft services to smaller airlines or private aviation companies. We refer to operations at these FBOs and our private lounges collectively as 'private terminals' to avoid confusion with the main airline locations."

https://www.jetsuitex.com/faqs

They've made these relatively old E135s stylish and comfortable.

https://www.jetsuitex.com/#pixlee_container

Very smart company in my opinion . . . and doing well in California/Las Vegas, and now Seattle.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:58 pm

ricq wrote:

I don't think they see themselves as mainly competing on price. They are marketing themselves as a more premium and exclusive product--"The Experience." Including not going thru TSA security, 36" pitch, 2-1 seating, and, arriving at at their "private terminals" just 20 - 30 minutes before flight time.



To be fair, all ERJ's that I've ever seen are 2-1 seating, so that doesn't differentiate them at all. The pitch, snacks, and lack of TSA on the other hand are a solid selling point.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:01 pm

Yeah, my bad I thought BFL Bakersfield. OAK-BFI might work if the fares and timing align.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:04 pm

737max8 wrote:
Is this the only ticket the average Joe can purchase to BFI and is BFI significantly closer to Seattle than SEA or PAE?


BFI is between SEA and PAE. BFI is very attractive as it is a rocks throw away from downtown. Also, free parking! This will no doubt attract business travelers, and leisure travelers like myself. PAE is about an hour north of me, and SEA is such a pain in the ass in terms of long TSA lines, expensive parking, and pure headaches. I really hope they can offer service down to the LAS area and LAX area eventually. I would even be okay with connecting.

Fingers are crossed big time! I cant wait to fly on them! They will do good in the summer. I suspect they may need to reduce the daily flights in the winter though.

Now... If they do SEA to LAS? Boom!!! Money right there. Can their 135 handle that distance?
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:18 pm

The only fly in the ointment I see at BFI is lack of rental cars on property.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:28 pm

For the seattle folks. Would people actually fly out of BFI? Seems like they've done ok operating out of FBO of LAS/BUR/OAK, but most people would actually search for those airports when they look up flights and now you can see the JetSuitex schedule and price next to WN flight thanks to their deal with JetBlue. But for an airport like BFI, who is going to discover JetSuitex? If they would want people from seattle to fly out of there, they'd need to do a lot of advertising, which they don't do. So they would have to rely on word of mouth.

Anyway, I think it's great that they keep building out their OAK operation. They've added a lot to BUR/LAS/SNA since they've started and cut RNO which obviously didn't work. They've obviously done well enough at OAK that they've made it the primary airport in bay area now after starting off at CCR and trying/giving up at SJC twice.

With these 3 flights, OAK is now larger than BUR and same size as LAS, but with more destinations.

Seems like it's just portland and San diego that are the obvious holes in their network out of OAK that ERJ-35 can reach.

Supposedly, Phoenix is next. I guess they could also try SLC. I can't think of anywhere else ERJ-35 could reach. Maybe they can try PSP also.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:49 pm

Prost wrote:
The only fly in the ointment I see at BFI is lack of rental cars on property.


BFI lacks a lot of logistics like access to Light Rail. But if you're an Uber or Lyft customer, it won't be so bad. I'll be interested to see which FBO at BFI they will use.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:56 pm

Wonder if they would consider HIO. If anything, I'm sure they'd go to SLE though. Shucks.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:57 pm

Dreamflight767 wrote:
Wonder if they would consider HIO. If anything, I'm sure they'd go to SLE though. Shucks.


You beat me to it, HIO is a possible option with the Tech out in the 26 corridor. BFI sounds reasonable to me with the proximity to downtown & no need to use I-5 to get into town. A nice wide two lane road that I have never seen gridlocked under normal conditions. Maybe JetSuiteX has, is, or will look at HIO, beating UA, AS or anyone else to to it.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:02 am

I like choice of flight numbers. Northbound are 707,727,747. Didn't look southbound, but can assume.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:08 am

sprxUSA wrote:
I like choice of flight numbers. Northbound are 707,727,747. Didn't look southbound, but can assume.


Southbound the flights are 717,737, and 757
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:08 am

Based on their career site and a listing for E135 pilots out of IWA, I'm guessing PHX is in the queue of announcements for JetSuiteX
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:17 am

I would give them a try. At least the rental car facility at OAK is just down the road.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:11 am

wedgetail737 wrote:
I would give them a try. At least the rental car facility at OAK is just down the road.



Often these FBO's can arrange a valet service for one's rental car
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:27 am

RJNUT wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
I would give them a try. At least the rental car facility at OAK is just down the road.



Often these FBO's can arrange a valet service for one's rental car


Good point.

Will this flight be JetsuiteX's longest flight segment?
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:51 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
I would give them a try. At least the rental car facility at OAK is just down the road.



Often these FBO's can arrange a valet service for one's rental car


Good point.

Will this flight be JetsuiteX's longest flight segment?

yes, easily the longest.

Seeing this https://blog.wandr.me/2014/05/a-new-ent ... mpetition/
it seems like they can go long enough to do BFI-LAS. Although, I'm not sure it's in JetSuiteX's model to have such long flight, since their main selling point is saving time and the saved time as a % of overal travel time decreases with longer flight.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:10 pm

Rental car companies will deliver their cars to the FBO for a small service fee and many busy FBOs have a big brand rent car desk on site. Signature contracts with National for example but Hertz or Enterprise will bring you a car too. I fly private and this is what we have always done.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:29 am

26point2 wrote:
Rental car companies will deliver their cars to the FBO for a small service fee and many busy FBOs have a big brand rent car desk on site. Signature contracts with National for example but Hertz or Enterprise will bring you a car too. I fly private and this is what we have always done.


Great to know...tells you how ignoramous I am.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:25 pm

The service begins this Monday (July 1st) and everybody at BFI is very excited to get another carrier here. Over the past week and a half they have done a lot remodeling in the terminal.

The plan is to remove the wall between gate 3 and 4 (which has now been renamed to lounge 1 and 2) so that it’s one larger lounge to be used by passengers from both JetSuiteX and Kenmore Air.

It seems very disorganized as the first JetSuite people didn’t start showing up until recently and even today (3 days before they start) they haven’t put up their logo behind their counter or hooked up their computers.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:14 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The service begins this Monday (July 1st) and everybody at BFI is very excited to get another carrier here. Over the past week and a half they have done a lot remodeling in the terminal.

The plan is to remove the wall between gate 3 and 4 (which has now been renamed to lounge 1 and 2) so that it’s one larger lounge to be used by passengers from both JetSuiteX and Kenmore Air.

It seems very disorganized as the first JetSuite people didn’t start showing up until recently and even today (3 days before they start) they haven’t put up their logo behind their counter or hooked up their computers.


I look forward to seeing what they have done with the terminal. It was already a very nice building. Have you scene much marketing up in the Seattle area AvGeek?
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:30 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
sprxUSA wrote:
I like choice of flight numbers. Northbound are 707,727,747. Didn't look southbound, but can assume.


Southbound the flights are 717,737, and 757

Shouldn't 717 go to LGB? :D
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:31 pm

Hoping they get any kinks ironed out in July; I'm planning to fly the route in August
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:58 pm

as739x wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The service begins this Monday (July 1st) and everybody at BFI is very excited to get another carrier here. Over the past week and a half they have done a lot remodeling in the terminal.

The plan is to remove the wall between gate 3 and 4 (which has now been renamed to lounge 1 and 2) so that it’s one larger lounge to be used by passengers from both JetSuiteX and Kenmore Air.

It seems very disorganized as the first JetSuite people didn’t start showing up until recently and even today (3 days before they start) they haven’t put up their logo behind their counter or hooked up their computers.


I look forward to seeing what they have done with the terminal. It was already a very nice building. Have you scene much marketing up in the Seattle area AvGeek?



I’m sure there is other marketing, but the only one I’ve seen is at SeaTac in front of one of their security checkpoints, what I remember it saying (or some version of this) “stuck waiting in line? You could be there already, if you flew with us out of Boeing Field. No line, no security, no hassle.”
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:00 pm

I know there is one AvGeek that works at Boeing Field (I don’t know if it’s with the airport or airline) named Gerardi-Aviation-Photography, but he/she has been posting some updates today on Instagram about the work going on in the terminal as they prepare for JetSuiteX
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:53 pm

I think I would not have phrased it as "no security" lol.
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:58 pm

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I think I would not have phrased it as "no security" lol.


I believe that’s how it was on the ad, but I’m not completely sure. Someone will have to confirm it.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:52 am

Prost wrote:
The only fly in the ointment I see at BFI is lack of rental cars on property.

National is at Signature. The FBO can arrange rental cars for you, just call in advance.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:59 am

The first flight was today, flight went out a little late but that was expected as there people are still getting used to the routine.

For the flights departing BFI, the 9:30 AM flight was almost full (mostly press and JetSuiteX people) at 29, the 4pm flight had about 20ish people on it. And the 7:30 flight had only 11 people. Hopefully they can do better and even add another route in the future.

There are pictures up now that include the landing and of the water cannon salute which looked amazing with Mount Rainier in the background ...
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:00 am

FlyingElvii wrote:
Prost wrote:
The only fly in the ointment I see at BFI is lack of rental cars on property.

National is at Signature. The FBO can arrange rental cars for you, just call in advance.


They have a contract with a company that parked around 6 higher end cars (Mercedes, Lincoln, etc...) in the parking lot at BFI.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:28 am

I am thinking: if JetSuiteX is to expand to Texas, can it please offer service in Denton, McKinney or Addison Airport? I flew through KDAL and that was awfully crowded to say the least.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:15 pm

a couple of articles on BFI-OAK. From all I've seen, seems like BFI is doing better than expectations so far, so I think this route will be fine.
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/trave ... jetsuitex/
https://www.geekwire.com/2019/jetsuitex ... travelers/

If they added Portland sometimes down the road, seems like OAK and BFI are obvious adds. Not sure if they will be willing to do BFI-LAS.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:31 pm

Sadly, I don't think this will succeed. Usually I am wrong though.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:19 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The first flight was today, flight went out a little late but that was expected as there people are still getting used to the routine.

For the flights departing BFI, the 9:30 AM flight was almost full (mostly press and JetSuiteX people) at 29, the 4pm flight had about 20ish people on it. And the 7:30 flight had only 11 people. Hopefully they can do better and even add another route in the future.

There are pictures up now that include the landing and of the water cannon salute which looked amazing with Mount Rainier in the background ...
https://instagram.com/p/BzYtxsiB_ss/


First day, I wouldn't expect alot of crushing loads. Not just that, but they really need to get their name out there in the Seattle area. Very few people are even aware of this venture. I really think this could be a gold mine for them if they play their cards right. Speaking of cards!!! BFI to LAS? That would be pretty interesting.
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Re: JetSuiteX to Launch OAK-BFI on July 1

Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:25 pm

If JetSuite X wants to tap the Portland market, I think HIO would be a good option & cater to the tech industry out there. Seems like a reasonable fit.
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