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Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:07 am

Was looking on FR24 recently and was surprised to use WN use 17/35 on occasion. Use of 17/35 at PHL in general is quite rare and most arrivals and departures these days were using the main runways so WN was a strange exception. Was it pilot preference? I'd doubt wind as other aircraft weren't using it.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 7#20220812

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 7#201c9644
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:25 am

Usually (I'd say over 95% of the time), PHL is west-flow. In this configuration, 27L is used for nearly all departures and 27R is used for most arrivals. However, 35 is indeed also used by a good number of arrivals. 35 arrivals are usually by the RJs that park at Terminal F (which is located close to the end of the 35 landing run), but Southwest also likes to use 35 for the same reason (they park at E), and those guys are all about short turn times!

On a slight tangent, I'll add that corporate arrivals are usually given 26 due to the proximity to the GA ramps. 26 cannot be used for departures because a 26 takeoff would take a plane right over the terminals (for the same reason, 8 cannot be used for arrivals when PHL is east-flow).

I don't know much about 17's ops, sorry. But hope this helps a bit!
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:46 am

WN has been using 35 since their arrival into PHL, but of course, it is pilot preference and most WN flights do use E/W runways. Going way back though, when strong northerly winds occurred, especially during the winter months, I used to see United Caravelles/727s, TWA DC-9s and Eastern DC-9s/727s also use 35.
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:54 pm

How often is runway 26 used? I know jets (including E-jets) cannot use it because of the Aker shipyard but it seems like a complete waste nowadays
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:59 pm

I remember several times taking off from 8 when flying on the Dash's.
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:32 pm

I was spotting a couple of times this week and 35 was used almost as frequently as 27R. All I saw were E145s and smaller business jets, but they would land between arrivals on 27R.
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:39 pm

17/35 is used heavily by the E145s/CR2s for landing and it works well because 17/35 doesn’t intersect with 9R/27L which allows for easy alternating with 9L/27R.

Earlier this month we flew BTV-PHL and landed on 17.

Departures from 17 isn’t uncommon (35 is rare) but not very frequent.
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:56 pm

WN had used 4-22 at BWI before it closed. Especially for shorter flights, a 73G can get out of 17-35 without a problem. If it can bump them up a few spots in the takeoff queue, I don't see a reason not to use it.
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:29 am

deltaffindfw wrote:
I remember several times taking off from 8 when flying on the Dash's.



CR2's use it occasionally.
 
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:48 am

Flying the ERJ170/175 we accepted runway 35 quite often, the same was true with WN...plenty of runway length for B737 equipment.

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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:09 am

Not just WN. I flew in to PHL on an A320 a few months ago and was surprised we used 35. Certainly a unique approach compared to the monotony of using the 27s/9s.
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:46 am

Forgot to mention it was a jetBlue A320, if that clarification helps anything
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Re: Use of PHL Runway 17/35

Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:07 am

At 6,500 feet long and at an elevation of 12.9 ft at the 35 side, it’s an operational no brainer to use when possible. By comparison, Both LGA runways are 7,000 ft at similar elevation and BUR’s main runways are 5,802 (8/26)for landing and 6,886 (15/33) for takeoffs at approx 700 ft elevation, with B6 going to JFK, WN gets as far as MDW and BNA and DL will use the 700 to go to ATL.

I have seen aircraft as large as 757’s and 321’s land when the winds are over cross wind landing thresholds for normal E-W landings.

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