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SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:50 pm

SkyWest announced today that it has agreed to lease 29 CRJ700 aircraft to a third-party for a ten-year term, subject to the finalization of their flying contract.

Could this be midwest express?via?contour?
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:28 pm

Operating leases or dry leases? Where did you read this?
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:44 pm

Probably the remainder of the CRJ550 fleet that United wants.
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:49 pm

Its was announced in there earnings 1q
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:57 pm

GoJet (United) sounds plausible.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:37 pm

rsgolfpunk wrote:
GoJet (United) sounds plausible.

Plausible. But wouldn’t OO want to fly the 550 themselves? Why give planes to your competition? Unless United is giving you a better long term contract.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:44 pm

So I was unaware that sky west allows runs a leasing company. So its anyone's guess who it could be. Spirit had said they were looking at the regional market. Im wondering if we will here something soon
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:49 pm

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bradyj23 wrote:
rsgolfpunk wrote:
GoJet (United) sounds plausible.

Plausible. But wouldn’t OO want to fly the 550 themselves? Why give planes to your competition? Unless United is giving you a better long term contract.


Because these are planes that would otherwise be parked and Skywest simply can’t staff another 30 or so airplanes. They’re still struggling to staff what they have
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:17 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
Probably the remainder of the CRJ550 fleet that United wants.


Skywest could be getting 1 for 1 ERJ-175SC's as they provide United the additional 29 required frames to convert to CRJ550's. I am not sure they are all going to go to GoJet, I would imagine United will want to split with other carriers to cover additional hubs. GoJet would not be able to staff all the hubs they need to fly them in efficiently.

But this all being said, if they are converted to CRJ-550's, I would imagine they can be converted back to CRJ-700's after lease ends.
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:10 pm

Amwest2United wrote:
DiamondFlyer wrote:
Probably the remainder of the CRJ550 fleet that United wants.


Skywest could be getting 1 for 1 ERJ-175SC's as they provide United the additional 29 required frames to convert to CRJ550's. I am not sure they are all going to go to GoJet, I would imagine United will want to split with other carriers to cover additional hubs. GoJet would not be able to staff all the hubs they need to fly them in efficiently.

But this all being said, if they are converted to CRJ-550's, I would imagine they can be converted back to CRJ-700's after lease ends.


Either that or SkyWest is planning on scrapping them when the lease ends.

Also, the fact that this went through says to me that United/Bombardier figured out the Payload/Range issues that they ran into with the CRJ-550 program.

Since they are touting that these will be flown from ORD and EWR I don't know who will do the EWR flying. G7 doesn't have a NYC crew base but they are slated to get 50 CRJ-550's. It's possible they could crew all the EWR trips from the ORD and STL crew bases, but boy, that would be a scheduling challenge.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:58 pm

Amwest2United wrote:
DiamondFlyer wrote:
Probably the remainder of the CRJ550 fleet that United wants.


Skywest could be getting 1 for 1 ERJ-175SC's as they provide United the additional 29 required frames to convert to CRJ550's. I am not sure they are all going to go to GoJet, I would imagine United will want to split with other carriers to cover additional hubs. GoJet would not be able to staff all the hubs they need to fly them in efficiently.

But this all being said, if they are converted to CRJ-550's, I would imagine they can be converted back to CRJ-700's after lease ends.


The original G7 announcement said they got 50 CRJ550's, but G7 only has ~25 CR7's for UA, so this could be the rest, if I were a betting man.
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:42 am

No.

rsgolfpunk wrote:
GoJet (United) sounds plausible.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:43 am

n7371f wrote:
No.

OO CR7's for UA are OO planes. They're not selling or subleasing them to GoJet.

However GoJet is going to have some issues here soon when DL pulls their aircraft.

rsgolfpunk wrote:
GoJet (United) sounds plausible.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:34 pm

As of 12/31/18 SkyWest had 22 CR7s under contract to Delta.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:14 pm

These 29 are old ASA Aircraft sitting in TUS.. they are not currently flying.. considering they are leasing 5 900’s to Air Canada they could be going North also (no competition) or GoJet is plausible with some deal with UA for more 175’s..
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:40 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
As of 12/31/18 SkyWest had 22 CR7s under contract to Delta.


Which will drop to 6 once all the CRJ900SC (70 seat 900) have been delivered
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:40 pm

Bad idea if United Airlines ordered brand new CRJ705's?
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:42 am

drdisque wrote:
Amwest2United wrote:
DiamondFlyer wrote:
Probably the remainder of the CRJ550 fleet that United wants.


Skywest could be getting 1 for 1 ERJ-175SC's as they provide United the additional 29 required frames to convert to CRJ550's. I am not sure they are all going to go to GoJet, I would imagine United will want to split with other carriers to cover additional hubs. GoJet would not be able to staff all the hubs they need to fly them in efficiently.

But this all being said, if they are converted to CRJ-550's, I would imagine they can be converted back to CRJ-700's after lease ends.


Either that or SkyWest is planning on scrapping them when the lease ends.

Also, the fact that this went through says to me that United/Bombardier figured out the Payload/Range issues that they ran into with the CRJ-550 program.

Since they are touting that these will be flown from ORD and EWR I don't know who will do the EWR flying. G7 doesn't have a NYC crew base but they are slated to get 50 CRJ-550's. It's possible they could crew all the EWR trips from the ORD and STL crew bases, but boy, that would be a scheduling challenge.

YX is rumored to have a 700 program on paper, shelved after the TSA deal fell though. And, more importantly, plenty of crew for the foreseeable future, as well as existing EWR and ORD bases. This would clash with the current single type philosophy, but they have been looking for more flying.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:56 am

What about Operating for Alaska? OO used to (do they still?) operate CR7s for AS/QX and still operates E175s for them.
 
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Re: SKYWEST Lease out airplanes

Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:26 pm

Republic use to operate the CRJ200’s. Wasn’t very good. Broken aircraft, pilot training issues.. Alaska is done with the 700’s... Maybe air Canada to replace older 200’s. Or more evidence points to 550’s for United... guessing will find out soon. By next Q results..

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