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x1234
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How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:24 pm

I would assume there's a market for YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS especially in the summer with the cruise traffic and connecting traffic to Asia/Oceania. It looks like YVR-BOS is summer seasonal (does anyone know when it starts this summer)!? I read the AC PDF that YVR-IAD is a potential route with with the A220. I hope it starts soon!
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:48 pm

UA flies YVR-IAD nonstop on Saturdays in the summer.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:53 pm

Thank you. It looks like AC flies YVR-BOS non-stop on Saturdays too. I wonder why Saturdays only and not daily!?
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:56 pm

AC flies daily in summer season BOS-YVR.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:06 pm

Also depends slightly on having the right plane. It strikes me as a longish and thin route, which means it may be more ideal for something like an A220 once they start up. As it is, AC doesn't like their E90s and it cutting back on them, so they may just not have the right plane for year-round service.

Don't forget that YVR, while having lots of international service, isn't actually that big of a city. There may not be as much O/D as you think.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:32 pm

x1234 wrote:
Thank you. It looks like AC flies YVR-BOS non-stop on Saturdays too. I wonder why Saturdays only and not daily!?


Chart cruise ship departures to Alaska.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Last summer was the first year for AC on BOS-YVR. The route did okay, well enough to come back this year.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:03 pm

EChid wrote:
Also depends slightly on having the right plane. It strikes me as a longish and thin route, which means it may be more ideal for something like an A220 once they start up. As it is, AC doesn't like their E90s and it cutting back on them, so they may just not have the right plane for year-round service.

Don't forget that YVR, while having lots of international service, isn't actually that big of a city. There may not be as much O/D as you think.


It's not about liking the E90 or not, at 2,514mi, it's highly unlikely the aircraft would make it.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:06 pm

IIRC, didn't AC say they were planning to fly YVR/YYC-IAD on the A220, among other new routes?
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:36 pm

One main route missing is YVR-MCO, many in asia and australia would prefer connecting in YVR compared to SFO or LAX and which canadian does not love Orlando?
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:10 pm

yulexpansion wrote:
EChid wrote:
As it is, AC doesn't like their E90s and it cutting back on them, so they may just not have the right plane for year-round service.


It's not about liking the E90 or not, at 2,514mi, it's highly unlikely the aircraft would make it.


The longest route AC flew the E190 was YYZ-SAN. And trust me, it couldn't go much further! ;) At 300 nms more, YVR-BOS is not at all possible. With the E190, the issue is not how much it can lift, but volumetrically, how much fuel it can carry.

I'm pretty sure AC likes the E190 just fine. It's just that with only 97 seats, the business case that made sense in 2005 no longer exists.
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:40 pm

This thread is littered with mistakes and inaccuracies.

1. AC flies YVR-BOS and UA flies YVR-IAD, so the OP should do some research before posting inaccuracies.
2. AC started YVR-BOS in 2017, so this year will mark the 3rd season for the route, not second.
3. The notion that people going from Asia/Australia to MCO would rather connect in YVR compared to LAX/SFO is anecdotal at best.
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:49 pm

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AC did note YVR-BOS as a potential A220 route. 2019 will be the third year of their seasonal non-stop flights between YVR-BOS.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:00 pm

Thenoflyzone wrote:
This thread is littered with mistakes and inaccuracies.

1. AC flies YVR-BOS and UA flies YVR-IAD, so the OP should do some research before posting inaccuracies.
2. AC started YVR-BOS in 2017, so this year will mark the 3rd season for the route, not second.
3. The notion that people going from Asia/Australia to MCO would rather connect in YVR compared to LAX/SFO is anecdotal at best.


The route was not "new" in 2017; AC operated it previously until circa 2003.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 am

N983AN wrote:
Thenoflyzone wrote:
This thread is littered with mistakes and inaccuracies.

1. AC flies YVR-BOS and UA flies YVR-IAD, so the OP should do some research before posting inaccuracies.
2. AC started YVR-BOS in 2017, so this year will mark the 3rd season for the route, not second.
3. The notion that people going from Asia/Australia to MCO would rather connect in YVR compared to LAX/SFO is anecdotal at best.


The route was not "new" in 2017; AC operated it previously until circa 2003.

15 years of no operation makes it new again in 2017. Don't be pedantic.
 
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Re: How come AC or UA don't fly YVR-IAD or YVR-BOS!?

Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:42 am

N983AN wrote:
Thenoflyzone wrote:
This thread is littered with mistakes and inaccuracies.

1. AC flies YVR-BOS and UA flies YVR-IAD, so the OP should do some research before posting inaccuracies.
2. AC started YVR-BOS in 2017, so this year will mark the 3rd season for the route, not second.
3. The notion that people going from Asia/Australia to MCO would rather connect in YVR compared to LAX/SFO is anecdotal at best.


The route was not "new" in 2017; AC operated it previously until circa 2003.


CP launched YVR-BOS in 1997. When AC merged with CP in 2001, it inherited the route. It canned it a few years later. So for all intents and purposes, it's a new route launch for AC.

Also, the press release from 2017 mentions the word "new" several times.

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