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Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:48 pm

I was looking at destinations served by JL on the Tokyo Haneda wikipedia page and it showed that they serve YYZ. Is this a glitch or they actually got a Canadian slot to serve YYZ from HND? If this were true, it would make sense as JL has no Canadian slot at HND while NH serves YVR and AC serves YYZ from HND. I would expect NH to serve YYZ from NRT instead as they already have a slot being used for YVR instead. Can someone confirm this for me?
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:55 pm

How would it be a glitch? I hope you realize anyone can edit a wiki page and add whatever they want
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:56 pm

You know anyone can go in an edit wikipedia right? It is not the most accurate resource to use by any means and anyone can change the information at any time. My best guess would be an a.netter saw all the rumour threads about it around here and decided to add it to wikipedia on their own for fun. For now JAL in YYZ is just a rumour however all signs point to it becoming a possibility in the very near future. From HND or NRT is yet to be determined however, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:56 pm

It says ANC too. HA

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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:56 pm

Some kid edited Southwest starting DFW. Don't always trust Wiki as anyone can edit it.
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:05 pm

YYZORD wrote:
I was looking at destinations served by JL on the Tokyo Haneda wikipedia page and it showed that they serve YYZ. Is this a glitch or they actually got a Canadian slot to serve YYZ from HND? If this were true, it would make sense as JL has no Canadian slot at HND while NH serves YVR and AC serves YYZ from HND. I would expect NH to serve YYZ from NRT instead as they already have a slot being used for YVR instead. Can someone confirm this for me?


Only Canadian destination served by JL is YVR, first checked the airline's wiki page, then their timetable running until the end of August. It's not a glitch, just someone hoping to see a dream come true. No source was given to prove it, so it's false.
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:13 pm

Which is why Wikipedia is pretty much useless.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:55 pm

EvanWSFO wrote:
Which is why Wikipedia is pretty much useless.

Not really. You just need to know how to use it:

  • Check the reference cited, if there is one, to see if it supports the given claim.
  • Check the edit history to see if the piece of information in question is a recent addition or has been there for some time. Check also to see if the person who has added it has a history of adding well-sourced (or poorly-sourced) information.

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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:55 pm

Wikipedia is not made for this kind of information. I'm a long-time contributor and i don't understand why there is a Destinations sections on airports pages. 99% of the content inside is outdated and non sourced.

Always check the sources when you read a Wikipedia article (also valid for all websites)
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:17 pm

LaunchDetected wrote:
Wikipedia is not made for this kind of information. I'm a long-time contributor and i don't understand why there is a Destinations sections on airports pages. 99% of the content inside is outdated and non sourced.

Always check the sources when you read a Wikipedia article (also valid for all websites)


99% is an insane overstatement... the destinations page is usually very accurate despite not having sources for each route. If you don't trust it, up to you. There's many other sources you can use to see up to date route maps.
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:14 pm

LaunchDetected wrote:
Wikipedia is not made for this kind of information. I'm a long-time contributor and i don't understand why there is a Destinations sections on airports pages. 99% of the content inside is outdated and non sourced.

Always check the sources when you read a Wikipedia article (also valid for all websites)


Yeah 99% is an overstatement. I often look at the destinations sections of big and small airports in the US when deciding where to go/how to get back from a destination when traveling standby and I feel like the good majority of the time it’s very accurate, strictly anecdotally speaking.
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:18 pm

stl07 wrote:
It says ANC too. HA

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JL serve ANC via scheduled charter every year.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:20 pm

LaunchDetected wrote:
Wikipedia is not made for this kind of information. I'm a long-time contributor and i don't understand why there is a Destinations sections on airports pages. 99% of the content inside is outdated and non sourced.

Always check the sources when you read a Wikipedia article (also valid for all websites)


I disagree - while there are some outdated information, especially for airports in places like Africa or some random minor airports in the middle of nowhere in the jungle of Brazil or Colombia. Otherwise, while there are misses here and there, it's ~95% accurate. Seasonal flights seems to be all over the place, though (especially Europe vacation charter carriers).
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:47 pm

Fixed for now.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:56 am

Now that's what we called Vandalism.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:24 am

Where is HND-FNJ and HND-PBI routes?
 
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:56 am

airlinepeanuts wrote:
Yeah 99% is an overstatement. I often look at the destinations sections of big and small airports in the US when deciding where to go/how to get back from a destination when traveling standby and I feel like the good majority of the time it’s very accurate, strictly anecdotally speaking.


My bad, i was thinking about the French version of Wikipedia. The English one must indeed be more up to date.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:57 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:
Which is why Wikipedia is pretty much useless.

Not really. You just need to know how to use it:

  • Check the reference cited, if there is one, to see if it supports the given claim.
  • Check the edit history to see if the piece of information in question is a recent addition or has been there for some time. Check also to see if the person who has added it has a history of adding well-sourced (or poorly-sourced) information.

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Thanks. I know how to use it. I'll stand by my assertion it's useless. Cheers.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:03 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
Where is HND-FNJ and HND-PBI routes?


Not quite HND-FNJ, but I remember somebody putting in ICN-FNJ on Incheon Airport's page right after the first Moon-Kim meeting.

LaunchDetected wrote:
My bad, i was thinking about the French version of Wikipedia. The English one must indeed be more up to date.


The English version depends. You're better off using Chinese version of Wikipedia for airport in Greater China, or Japanese version for airports in...well...Japan, etc.

On the flip side, Chinese Wikipedia pages of airports in US, for example, is 99% inaccurate.
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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:08 pm

EvanWSFO wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
EvanWSFO wrote:
Which is why Wikipedia is pretty much useless.

Not really. You just need to know how to use it:

  • Check the reference cited, if there is one, to see if it supports the given claim.
  • Check the edit history to see if the piece of information in question is a recent addition or has been there for some time. Check also to see if the person who has added it has a history of adding well-sourced (or poorly-sourced) information.

V/F


Thanks. I know how to use it. I'll stand by my assertion it's useless. Cheers.

Fair enough. I guess we’ll have to differ on our assessments of usefulness.

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Re: Tokyo Haneda HND Wikipedia Page Shows JL serves YYZ

Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:48 pm

First, they got rid of terminal information. I wouldn't be surprised if there is consensus to get rid of destination information next. Then get rid of airlines. After that, get rid of runway information. After all, Wikipedia is not a travel guide, right?

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