dtwpilot225
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Thu May 02, 2019 7:36 pm

Interesting I was reading on this website that air transat is starting a bunch of European destinations from yyz and yul using a321LR
I think yyz-dub and yul-Tls were in there. Probably only summer routes but got me thinking with the options delta has for the Neo, if they add on the 321LR delta could potentially use bos, jfk, or maybe even dtw to do some thin routes on the 321LR possibly as a stop gap while waiting for a 797 to arrive.
 
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Re: Delta 321 neos routes

Thu May 02, 2019 7:50 pm

CRJ900 wrote:
Will DL's A321NEO have the ACF cabin with the new door setup?


Try this 1st http://bfy.tw/NUI1

Than you will get this link to the official Airbus news, you know the company which is building the A321neo and which is of course making some news about 5-10 billion $ order.
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... craft.html

Yes, it is the ACF version.
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Thu May 02, 2019 7:53 pm

compensateme wrote:
dtwpilot225 wrote:
No speculating is always smarter


MSP-BDA


Any logic behind this or just hoping?
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Fri May 03, 2019 5:17 am

777Mech wrote:
goboeing wrote:
There's a lot of conflicting information about how many are getting ETOPS. The first 20, the first 40 . . . ? I've heard it all.

Does anyone have any concrete info on that plan? (which is quite possibly not even decided yet)


The first 20 will have ETOPs. First delivery will be January 2020

As for the first routes, look for any 757 doing the Hawaii runs out on the west coast.


Once the first 20-A321neo ETOPS certified AC are in service has there been any talk of removing the ETOPS cert on the
remaining 21-739ers ETOPS certified AC?
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:16 am

adamanbermuda wrote:
compensateme wrote:
dtwpilot225 wrote:
No speculating is always smarter


MSP-BDA


Any logic behind this or just hoping?


Speculating.
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 am

My assumption:

All 752's retired and scrapped by 2023.

738 and A320 fleets to remain unchanged for at least 10 years.
Stuck at age 15 thanks to the certification date of the A320-200 and my parents' decision to postpone having a kid by 3 years. At least there's Dignitas...
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:40 am

1989worstyear wrote:
My assumption:

All 752's retired and scrapped by 2023.

738 and A320 fleets to remain unchanged for at least 10 years.

If that’s the case, then DL will either axe all TATL 752 flights altogether, or switch them to the A321neo or B763ER in the next few years.
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:18 am

Oliver2020 wrote:
Once the first 20-A321neo ETOPS certified AC are in service has there been any talk of removing the ETOPS cert on the remaining 21-739ers ETOPS certified AC?


Why?
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:02 am

NateGreat wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
My assumption:

All 752's retired and scrapped by 2023.

738 and A320 fleets to remain unchanged for at least 10 years.

If that’s the case, then DL will either axe all TATL 752 flights altogether, or switch them to the A321neo or B763ER in the next few years.


The Delta 757-200s will remains in serive beyond 2023 barring an economic catastrophe. Delta has over 30 757-200s that will only be between 19 and 24 years old at that point. Delta flies their 757s about 29-30 years before permanently retiring them. I’d expect to see their 757s flying until around 2030 given that the youngest were built in 2004.
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:06 am

I dont understand, i know the A321 should have a bit/around 3000nm range, so what am i missing with the TCON range questions?
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:48 am

This is pretty easy to speculate about.

1) 757 service to Hawaii and the domestic routes linked to it (most of the ETOPS neos will be straight 1-for-1 replacement of the 75H fleet)
2) Long transcons, likely rotating a lot through SEA and JFK
3) Other mostly longer routes throughout the system, where they will displace 739s to cover routes now being flown by 75Ds and older A320s

1989worstyear wrote:
My assumption:

All 752's retired and scrapped by 2023.

738 and A320 fleets to remain unchanged for at least 10 years.


Some A320s will cycle out, even with the life extension, before 10 years are up. I expect to see ships up to 3250 replaced by the current A321neo orders. 3251 and up, which are significantly newer, may stick around longer.
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:07 am

seabosdca wrote:
This is pretty easy to speculate about.

1) 757 service to Hawaii and the domestic routes linked to it (most of the ETOPS neos will be straight 1-for-1 replacement of the 75H fleet)
2) Long transcons, likely rotating a lot through SEA and JFK
3) Other mostly longer routes throughout the system, where they will displace 739s to cover routes now being flown by 75Ds and older A320s

1989worstyear wrote:
My assumption:

All 752's retired and scrapped by 2023.

738 and A320 fleets to remain unchanged for at least 10 years.


Some A320s will cycle out, even with the life extension, before 10 years are up. I expect to see ships up to 3250 replaced by the current A321neo orders. 3251 and up, which are significantly newer, may stick around longer.


Where will the 75H' s go? I thought they weren't the oldest.
Stuck at age 15 thanks to the certification date of the A320-200 and my parents' decision to postpone having a kid by 3 years. At least there's Dignitas...
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:26 am

1989worstyear wrote:
Where will the 75H' s go? I thought they weren't the oldest.


I suspect the fate of the 752s will have more to do with heavy maintenance timing than age. If 75Ds need to go first, then 75Hs displaced from Hawaii service could replace them. What I really mean to say is that the 752 will quickly disappear from Hawaii service once A321neos with ETOPS are available.
 
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Re: Delta 321neo routes

Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:13 pm

I read first neo won’t come until April now, 16 in 2020 and then 30 plus in 2021

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