DavidJ08 wrote:I must admit I didn't see the 787-10 coming. I supported the A350-900 on the basis that it was closer in size to the 777-200 being replaced, but didn't think the 787-10 would have the range NZ desired. (I did suspect GE engines would've been chosen, though, given the RR-engine grief.)
I've found NZ's own press release, and I see that they've come to some arrangement regarding range:However, the game changer for us has been that by working closely with Boeing, we've ensured the 787-10 will meet our network needs, including the ability to fly missions similar to our current 777-200 fleet.
I guess that means they have plans on what the 787-10 will do and have assurances that it will be capable of doing so - I assume that means West Coast of the US on decent payload.
Also I see a flexible deal has been negotiated:In addition to the eight firm orders announced today, the agreement includes options to increase the number of aircraft from eight to up to 20. The airline has also negotiated substitution rights that allow a switch from the larger 787-10 aircraft to smaller 787-9s, or a combination of the two models for future fleet and network flexibility. The delivery schedule can also be delayed or accelerated according to market demand.
I'm interpreting the 12 options as allowing for 77W replacement plus potential growth later on, which suggests an all-787 fleet (of different 787 models) for the future. Perhaps more 787-10 for 77W replacement (LAX/SFO/LHR), and some extra-low-density 787-9 (with increased MTOW) to allow for EWR?
I’ve got a feeling that Boeing could replace the double bogey with a triple bogey main gear (a la 777). This is the main thing holding the 787 back in terms of MTOW due to pavement loading. A triple bogey would add maybe 2t to the OEW in terms of the gear and strengthening etc but would allow for around 15t in extra MTOW (so 13t more fuel which should give an extra 1600nm range, couple that with a less dense cabin (more premium, less economy - introducing economy plus too) you then get the 2000nm extra range you need. I’m still thinking the 789 will be reconfigured initially but longer term if a 78JER is available then it could work well.