• 1
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
 
acinvestigator
Posts: 20
Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:20 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 10:21 am

EK413 wrote:
oskarclare wrote:
acinvestigator wrote:
For a research report I need the following info if anyone can help me out with details or a link.

I need a current list of which ground service providers (Menzies, Dnata, Swissport, QGS...) handle all of the different airlines at SYD, particularly for ramp, pax and cargo at SYD international. Part of the report includes a size comparison of those providers in SYD.

Any info would be appreciated.

Cheers


Here's a list of ground service providers:

dnata
Menzies Aviation
John Holland Aviation Services
Q Catering
Wymap Group
Qantas Airways
Toll dnata Airport Services
OEMServices
Alpha Flight Group Ltd
Aerocare
Gate Gourmet
Cabin Services Australia
Qantas Airways MRO
AVIA Flight Services
Heston MRO
Carbridge
Universal Aviation
Executive Gourmet

Source: https://centreforaviation.com/data/prof ... irport-syd


Correction below...

Q Catering - Sold to Dnata Catering 1st November 2018

Toll dnata Airport Services - Acquired by Dnata

Alpha Flight Group Ltd - Acquired by Dnata Catering

Aerocare - Acquired by Swissport

Cabin Services Australia - Originally known as Broadlex Air Services, acquired by Dnata Group Cabin Services Australia

EK413


Thank you for the help and info but perhaps my request was not that clear.

I am looking for which ground companies handle which airlines: (eg: Dnata have Emirates, etc. etc. etc. Menzies have... Swissport have... )

I am looking for data that I can make into graphs to work out what handlers have which % of the market, the most airlines, the most flights, etc.

Sorry if my original request was not clear.

Cheers
 
User avatar
EK413
Posts: 5212
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 12:23 pm

acinvestigator wrote:
EK413 wrote:
oskarclare wrote:

Here's a list of ground service providers:

dnata
Menzies Aviation
John Holland Aviation Services
Q Catering
Wymap Group
Qantas Airways
Toll dnata Airport Services
OEMServices
Alpha Flight Group Ltd
Aerocare
Gate Gourmet
Cabin Services Australia
Qantas Airways MRO
AVIA Flight Services
Heston MRO
Carbridge
Universal Aviation
Executive Gourmet

Source: https://centreforaviation.com/data/prof ... irport-syd


Correction below...

Q Catering - Sold to Dnata Catering 1st November 2018

Toll dnata Airport Services - Acquired by Dnata

Alpha Flight Group Ltd - Acquired by Dnata Catering

Aerocare - Acquired by Swissport

Cabin Services Australia - Originally known as Broadlex Air Services, acquired by Dnata Group Cabin Services Australia

EK413


Thank you for the help and info but perhaps my request was not that clear.

I am looking for which ground companies handle which airlines: (eg: Dnata have Emirates, etc. etc. etc. Menzies have... Swissport have... )

I am looking for data that I can make into graphs to work out what handlers have which % of the market, the most airlines, the most flights, etc.

Sorry if my original request was not clear.

Cheers


To the best of my knowledge here’s a brief list & as you know contracts are reviewed, renewed or terminated. I can tell you right now Dnata group has a majority of the major contracts.

Dnata - EK,SQ,EY,UL,MK,AI,

Cabin Services Australia - EK,SQ,EY,UL,AI,

Dnata Catering - EK,QF,SQ (excludes SQ ex-SYD),QR,NZ,CA,TG,EY,UL,AI,JQ,AC,HA,

QGS/QF - QF,AA,VN,PX,BA (believe recently moved back to Menzies?),SQ Cargo,FX,5X,AC (ex-SYD),

Menzies - NH,GA,UA,HNA Group,TG,AC,

Gate Gourmet - VA,SQ (SYD),BA,HNA Group carriers,JL,VN,UA,

Swissport - VA,NZ,JQ

Obvious the list goes on but gives you an idea.

EK413
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
 
FlyDeltaJetsATL
Posts: 136
Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:39 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Mon May 27, 2019 10:27 pm

EK413 wrote:
acinvestigator wrote:
EK413 wrote:

Correction below...

Q Catering - Sold to Dnata Catering 1st November 2018

Toll dnata Airport Services - Acquired by Dnata

Alpha Flight Group Ltd - Acquired by Dnata Catering

Aerocare - Acquired by Swissport

Cabin Services Australia - Originally known as Broadlex Air Services, acquired by Dnata Group Cabin Services Australia

EK413


Thank you for the help and info but perhaps my request was not that clear.

I am looking for which ground companies handle which airlines: (eg: Dnata have Emirates, etc. etc. etc. Menzies have... Swissport have... )

I am looking for data that I can make into graphs to work out what handlers have which % of the market, the most airlines, the most flights, etc.

Sorry if my original request was not clear.

Cheers


To the best of my knowledge here’s a brief list & as you know contracts are reviewed, renewed or terminated. I can tell you right now Dnata group has a majority of the major contracts.

Dnata - EK,SQ,EY,UL,MK,AI,

Cabin Services Australia - EK,SQ,EY,UL,AI,

Dnata Catering - EK,QF,SQ (excludes SQ ex-SYD),QR,NZ,CA,TG,EY,UL,AI,JQ,AC,HA,

QGS/QF - QF,AA,VN,PX,BA (believe recently moved back to Menzies?),SQ Cargo,FX,5X,AC (ex-SYD),

Menzies - NH,GA,UA,HNA Group,TG,AC,

Gate Gourmet - VA,SQ (SYD),BA,HNA Group carriers,JL,VN,UA,

Swissport - VA,NZ,JQ

Obvious the list goes on but gives you an idea.

EK413


Some info from my neighbor:

Dnata: EK EY QR MU MF HU PR CZ AI AC

This is current and for ramp / baggage.

Dnata no longer do SQ but have picked up DL to start soon.

The problem with getting such data is that some airlines use different providers for different services (eg: pax check-in & boarding / ramp & baggage / cargo).

The money is in cargo handling and Dnata could not get the SQ cargo contract despite a decade or so of providing others services so that ended.

Good luck with your list!

Jesse
FLY DELTA JETS
 
User avatar
eta unknown
Posts: 2348
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2001 5:03 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 12:51 am

Yes I've heard Menies lowballs the pax handling to get the cargo business which has prohibitive markups.
 
User avatar
SCFlyer
Posts: 227
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 12:54 am

Scurrah has indicated recently that VA will be retaining a majority stake in Velocity, as Affinity Partners looks at selling out.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/compani ... 51oym.html
 
DeltaB717
Posts: 1662
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:49 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 1:51 am

FL420FT wrote:
Yesterday (Sunday 26th May)Qantas had two flights SYD LHR ..
QF1 and QF5 ..
QF5 (VH-OQE) which had an ETD of 2230 hours via SIN and ETD into LHR 1625LT ..
After that, it is being ferried to Dresden (DRS) ...
I'm guessing this is the first of the QF A380's for refit ?


You're correct.
 
AVB
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:43 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 4:28 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
FL420FT wrote:
Yesterday (Sunday 26th May)Qantas had two flights SYD LHR ..
QF1 and QF5 ..
QF5 (VH-OQE) which had an ETD of 2230 hours via SIN and ETD into LHR 1625LT ..
After that, it is being ferried to Dresden (DRS) ...
I'm guessing this is the first of the QF A380's for refit ?


You're correct.


You’re incorrect. The aircraft is going in for heavy maintenance.
 
JQ321
Posts: 124
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:40 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 5:31 am

AVB wrote:
DeltaB717 wrote:
FL420FT wrote:
Yesterday (Sunday 26th May)Qantas had two flights SYD LHR ..
QF1 and QF5 ..
QF5 (VH-OQE) which had an ETD of 2230 hours via SIN and ETD into LHR 1625LT ..
After that, it is being ferried to Dresden (DRS) ...
I'm guessing this is the first of the QF A380's for refit ?


You're correct.


You’re incorrect. The aircraft is going in for heavy maintenance.

Source?
 
Boof
Posts: 151
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:16 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 7:18 am

AVB wrote:
DeltaB717 wrote:
FL420FT wrote:
Yesterday (Sunday 26th May)Qantas had two flights SYD LHR ..
QF1 and QF5 ..
QF5 (VH-OQE) which had an ETD of 2230 hours via SIN and ETD into LHR 1625LT ..
After that, it is being ferried to Dresden (DRS) ...
I'm guessing this is the first of the QF A380's for refit ?


You're correct.


You’re incorrect. The aircraft is going in for heavy maintenance.


What if you were both right? Surely the reconfigs are being done during a maintenance check to save downtime...

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a380- ... intenance/
Bring back Virgin Blue!
 
DeltaB717
Posts: 1662
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:49 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 7:34 am

Boof wrote:
AVB wrote:
DeltaB717 wrote:

You're correct.


You’re incorrect. The aircraft is going in for heavy maintenance.


What if you were both right? Surely the reconfigs are being done during a maintenance check to save downtime...

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a380- ... intenance/


It may well be undergoing heavy mx at the same time, but I can promise you it is having a cabin refurb as I have had that information from within QF.
 
Captdasbomb
Posts: 47
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:08 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Tue May 28, 2019 9:12 pm

Boof wrote:
AVB wrote:
DeltaB717 wrote:

You're correct.


You’re incorrect. The aircraft is going in for heavy maintenance.


What if you were both right? Surely the reconfigs are being done during a maintenance check to save downtime...

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-a380- ... intenance/


Thought heavy maintenance was done in Abu Dhabi
 
acinvestigator
Posts: 20
Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:20 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 3:35 am

FlyDeltaJetsATL wrote:
EK413 wrote:
acinvestigator wrote:

Thank you for the help and info but perhaps my request was not that clear.

I am looking for which ground companies handle which airlines: (eg: Dnata have Emirates, etc. etc. etc. Menzies have... Swissport have... )

I am looking for data that I can make into graphs to work out what handlers have which % of the market, the most airlines, the most flights, etc.

Sorry if my original request was not clear.

Cheers


To the best of my knowledge here’s a brief list & as you know contracts are reviewed, renewed or terminated. I can tell you right now Dnata group has a majority of the major contracts.

Dnata - EK,SQ,EY,UL,MK,AI,

Cabin Services Australia - EK,SQ,EY,UL,AI,

Dnata Catering - EK,QF,SQ (excludes SQ ex-SYD),QR,NZ,CA,TG,EY,UL,AI,JQ,AC,HA,

QGS/QF - QF,AA,VN,PX,BA (believe recently moved back to Menzies?),SQ Cargo,FX,5X,AC (ex-SYD),

Menzies - NH,GA,UA,HNA Group,TG,AC,

Gate Gourmet - VA,SQ (SYD),BA,HNA Group carriers,JL,VN,UA,

Swissport - VA,NZ,JQ

Obvious the list goes on but gives you an idea.

EK413


Some info from my neighbor:

Dnata: EK EY QR MU MF HU PR CZ AI AC

This is current and for ramp / baggage.

Dnata no longer do SQ but have picked up DL to start soon.

The problem with getting such data is that some airlines use different providers for different services (eg: pax check-in & boarding / ramp & baggage / cargo).

The money is in cargo handling and Dnata could not get the SQ cargo contract despite a decade or so of providing others services so that ended.

Good luck with your list!

Jesse


Thank you for the lists.
 
FlyDeltaJetsATL
Posts: 136
Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:39 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Thu May 30, 2019 3:58 am

acinvestigator wrote:
FlyDeltaJetsATL wrote:
EK413 wrote:

To the best of my knowledge here’s a brief list & as you know contracts are reviewed, renewed or terminated. I can tell you right now Dnata group has a majority of the major contracts.

Dnata - EK,SQ,EY,UL,MK,AI,

Cabin Services Australia - EK,SQ,EY,UL,AI,

Dnata Catering - EK,QF,SQ (excludes SQ ex-SYD),QR,NZ,CA,TG,EY,UL,AI,JQ,AC,HA,

QGS/QF - QF,AA,VN,PX,BA (believe recently moved back to Menzies?),SQ Cargo,FX,5X,AC (ex-SYD),

Menzies - NH,GA,UA,HNA Group,TG,AC,

Gate Gourmet - VA,SQ (SYD),BA,HNA Group carriers,JL,VN,UA,

Swissport - VA,NZ,JQ

Obvious the list goes on but gives you an idea.

EK413


Some info from my neighbor:

Dnata: EK EY QR MU MF HU PR CZ AI AC

This is current and for ramp / baggage.

Dnata no longer do SQ but have picked up DL to start soon.

The problem with getting such data is that some airlines use different providers for different services (eg: pax check-in & boarding / ramp & baggage / cargo).

The money is in cargo handling and Dnata could not get the SQ cargo contract despite a decade or so of providing others services so that ended.

Good luck with your list!

Jesse


Thank you for the lists.


Here is a list of who handles whose baggage:

https://www.sydneyairport.com.au/contac ... e-handlers

Jesse
FLY DELTA JETS
 
User avatar
SeaEagle8
Posts: 145
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:59 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 4:33 am

Malindo’s new SYD service now open for reservation.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... gust-2019/

OD171 KUL1825 – 2135DPS2235 – 0640+1SYD 738 D
OD172 SYD1200 – 1650DPS1800 – 2110KUL 738 D
NSW based avgeek
 
User avatar
eta unknown
Posts: 2348
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2001 5:03 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Fri May 31, 2019 4:46 am

Malindo must have encountered a slot problem at SYD as they favour immediate turn-arounds.
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Topic Author
Posts: 8595
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:07 am

Please continue discussion in Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1423737&p=21398923#p21398923
Forum Moderator
  • 1
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos