kayik wrote:zippy wrote:Revelation wrote:Saying that somebody was killed by negligence is a serious accusation, one that should not be made casually and without the kind of proof that would be needed in a court room, IMO.
There's quite a significant difference between what a layperson refers to as negligence and what the court deems criminal negligence. Even then it's not like this discussion is happening in a vacuum. So far:
- Boeing has admitted that they knew the primary flight displays were faulty and had no intent on notifying the FAA, the airlines, correcting the documentation, or submitting a fix until 2020 (until the Lion Air crash)
- A Boeing engineer went on the record (60 Minutes Australia) stating that MCAS relied on only one alpha vane at a time to avoid additional scrutiny.
- Boeing knowingly modified MCAS to dramatically increase its authority after it was certified by the FAA (presumably after testing it about as much as they did the PFDs)
- Boeing knowingly signed off on simulators that not only didn't implement MCAS but didn't maintain realistic force on the trim wheels
These were deliberate actions, not casual mistakes.
Yes, I would like to know whether these are mistakes or negligence or whatever you name it. What would a jury think if it goes there?
Several articles in the news today stating that although Boeing knew about the faulty light sensor before the Lion crash they made a decision to fix it in 2020.
Then after the Lion crash they started fixing it immediately
You have to argue that this was a negligent decision both before and after Lion
They should have grounded the planes and fixed them before Lion
Once Lion crashed and they decided to bring forward the fix they should have grounded then
When Ethiopia crashed and they argued against grounding its actually bordering on the ridiculous
Some awful decisions have been taken. Negligent would be a fair description IMO
Trying to say the light wasn't crucial but then bringing forward work on it and now accepting that was a mistake is going to be very hard for lawyers to defend
It certainly doesn't suggest a safety first culture in Boeing and it's certainly open to negligence accusations