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Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:22 pm

Air Asia X may be interested in launching flights to Europe from its long haul base in DMK (Bangkok) to Prague.

https://www.pasazer.com/news/41276/thai ... gkoku.html

Link just in Polish. This would mean the return of D7 to Europe, after they dropped last flights between KUL and LGW.
 
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:55 pm

Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me - what sorts of (relatively) high-yielding traffic exists between the two cities? And I doubt A333 can make it in D7/XT's config unless it's the ex-MU birds.

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Wed May 01, 2019 12:03 am

They should fly to BUD and cooperate with Wizzair but even that would be hard
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Wed May 01, 2019 12:04 am

a350lover wrote:
Air Asia X may be interested in launching flights to Europe from its long haul base in DMK (Bangkok) to Prague.

https://www.pasazer.com/news/41276/thai ... gkoku.html

Link just in Polish. This would mean the return of D7 to Europe, after they dropped last flights between KUL and LGW.



If it starting from DMK, this would be an XJ (Thai Airasia X) not D7 (Airasia X) as they are based out of KUL. XJ expanding quite a bit this year with BNE, TSN, FUK, SHE. If they could make connections from BNE to PRG, they could market flights as a low-cost option to Europe from QLD which could appeal to backpackers etc.
 
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Wed May 01, 2019 1:26 am

eamondzhang wrote:
Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me - what sorts of (relatively) high-yielding traffic exists between the two cities? And I doubt A333 can make it in D7/XT's config unless it's the ex-MU birds.

Michael

XJ will be taking delivery of two new A339s later this year.
 
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Wed May 01, 2019 1:29 am

Low cost option? You can already fly to London/Paris/Rome (the biggest 3 that matter ex AU) for $1050 return on full service carriers. Sometimes even lower if via China. Travel agents aren't going to push Air Asia as the commission is 2-3% and only paid quarterly.
 
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Wed May 01, 2019 7:53 am

With China price dumping seats into the market, its certainly fair to argue they are the real low-cost option.
 
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Wed May 01, 2019 12:39 pm

If Scoot are making Berlin/Athens work, I can't see Air Asia having any problem with Prague ... the rich Singapore kids can start in Berlin or Athens and end their Europe adventure in Prague routing home via dmk .

Also good for trafic ex Eu , the superconnectors don't generally sell reasonably priced one way tickets for independent travellers building flexible itineraries and Bangkok is much more reasonably priced and interesting city than Singapore
 
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Wed May 01, 2019 12:45 pm

sunbus617 wrote:
Low cost option? You can already fly to London/Paris/Rome (the biggest 3 that matter ex AU) for $1050 return on full service carriers. Sometimes even lower if via China. Travel agents aren't going to push Air Asia as the commission is 2-3% and only paid quarterly.

Doesn't that mean they are still more expensive than trans-pacific flights?
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Wed May 01, 2019 1:28 pm

Umm...it can capture traffic from Central Europe to Thailand also. It's not always just Asia-outbound especially when it comes to Thailand.

Galwayman wrote:
If Scoot are making Berlin/Athens work, I can't see Air Asia having any problem with Prague ... the rich Singapore kids can start in Berlin or Athens and end their Europe adventure in Prague routing home via dmk .


You think the rich Singapore kids are going to fly with AirAsia or Scoot? SQ or perhaps EK (Both in First Class, of course) all the way! :white:

But yes, Singaporean along with HKer (Who are just NOT going to fly with mainland airlines, period) can definitely make use of the flight going to PRG. Meanwhile, Czechs (and perhaps some Polish and Slovaks or even Austrians and Germans) looking for sun can make use of the flight to DMK and go from there.
 
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Wed May 01, 2019 1:57 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me - what sorts of (relatively) high-yielding traffic exists between the two cities? And I doubt A333 can make it in D7/XT's config unless it's the ex-MU birds.

Michael

Ya looks like only China can make things happen.
 
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Wed May 01, 2019 2:21 pm

I always thought that a PG codeshare and SAW flights would serve AirAsia X well.
 
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Wed May 01, 2019 6:18 pm

Czech Prime Minister Babiš claims the start date for the AirAsia Bangkok-Prague flight is October 26, 2019:

https://twitter.com/AndrejBabis/status/ ... 6416651269

It is estimated that about 43,000 Czechs visit Thailand every year, with about 50,000 Thais visiting the Czech Republic annually (https://www.airways.cz/zprava/babis-do- ... airasia-x/). This could be a convenient connection for many of them, as well as other low-cost travelers on both ends.

Let's see!
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Wed May 01, 2019 6:43 pm

JakubH wrote:
Czech Prime Minister Babiš claims the start date for the AirAsia Bangkok-Prague flight is October 26, 2019:

https://twitter.com/AndrejBabis/status/ ... 6416651269

It is estimated that about 43,000 Czechs visit Thailand every year, with about 50,000 Thais visiting the Czech Republic annually (https://www.airways.cz/zprava/babis-do- ... airasia-x/). This could be a convenient connection for many of them, as well as other low-cost travelers on both ends.

Let's see!

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Wed May 01, 2019 11:28 pm

flee wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me - what sorts of (relatively) high-yielding traffic exists between the two cities? And I doubt A333 can make it in D7/XT's config unless it's the ex-MU birds.

Michael

XJ will be taking delivery of two new A339s later this year.

That explains everything, was not aware that XJ is taking A339s.

Michael
 
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Thu May 02, 2019 12:03 am

eamondzhang wrote:
flee wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me - what sorts of (relatively) high-yielding traffic exists between the two cities? And I doubt A333 can make it in D7/XT's config unless it's the ex-MU birds.

Michael

XJ will be taking delivery of two new A339s later this year.

That explains everything, was not aware that XJ is taking A339s.

Michael

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Thu May 02, 2019 4:39 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
what sorts of (relatively) high-yielding traffic exists between the two cities?

They are a LCC. They do not offer major business routes, and are not after high-yielding traffic. People who pay high fares for the need of flexibility fly network carriers that offer a proper business class and traditional mile-based loyalty programs.

Air Asia X is after tourists. They make more money from ancillary fees (seat selection, extra luggage, etc.), BoB, etc. than from the fares themselves.
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Re: Air Asia X returning to Europe? May launch DMK-Prague

Thu May 02, 2019 9:20 pm

sunbus617 wrote:
Low cost option? You can already fly to London/Paris/Rome (the biggest 3 that matter ex AU) for $1050 return on full service carriers. Sometimes even lower if via China. Travel agents aren't going to push Air Asia as the commission is 2-3% and only paid quarterly.


Actually that's rather expensive.

I've just looked up Scoot and they can offer a return flight Sydney - Athens for AUD 788,55 on a random date in September. If you care to search and book further in advance, they might even be cheaper. With multiple LCCs active on the route between Asia and Europe this will bring the fares even further down. Legacies can't keep up with that due to their high cost base. LCCs have a lower cost base and can therefor offer a lower fare.

Forget travel agents, passengers that are looking for the cheapest deal (the ones that end up on these flights) book online directly with the airline. They don't make use of travel agencies, they are their own travel agencies.

Prague is an excellent choice as a lot of LCCs use it. From Prague you can fly to anywhere within Europe on LCCs. This means people from all over Europe will fly to Prague to capture these cheap flights to Asia from there. It's also a relatively cheap airport as the Czech Republic doesn't have any type of air ticket tax. This is a major difference with London Gatwick which they served in the past but was subject to APD which made the tickets more expensive. At Prague they can be a whole lot cheaper than at Gatwick. Still, people from London can take a cheap flight to Prague, board AirAsia to Bangkok and then continue to wherever they want to go.
 
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Thu May 02, 2019 11:10 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
sunbus617 wrote:
Low cost option? You can already fly to London/Paris/Rome (the biggest 3 that matter ex AU) for $1050 return on full service carriers. Sometimes even lower if via China. Travel agents aren't going to push Air Asia as the commission is 2-3% and only paid quarterly.


Actually that's rather expensive.

I've just looked up Scoot and they can offer a return flight Sydney - Athens for AUD 788,55 on a random date in September. If you care to search and book further in advance, they might even be cheaper. With multiple LCCs active on the route between Asia and Europe this will bring the fares even further down. Legacies can't keep up with that due to their high cost base. LCCs have a lower cost base and can therefor offer a lower fare.

Forget travel agents, passengers that are looking for the cheapest deal (the ones that end up on these flights) book online directly with the airline. They don't make use of travel agencies, they are their own travel agencies.

Prague is an excellent choice as a lot of LCCs use it. From Prague you can fly to anywhere within Europe on LCCs. This means people from all over Europe will fly to Prague to capture these cheap flights to Asia from there. It's also a relatively cheap airport as the Czech Republic doesn't have any type of air ticket tax. This is a major difference with London Gatwick which they served in the past but was subject to APD which made the tickets more expensive. At Prague they can be a whole lot cheaper than at Gatwick. Still, people from London can take a cheap flight to Prague, board AirAsia to Bangkok and then continue to wherever they want to go.

Not saying yes or no, however long haul low cost does not do well for anybody at the moment and I can hardly believe this fare is sustainable.

Michael

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