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Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 1:00 am

From looking at photos of UA planes at Kai Tak on the Google Images. I found this photo



Did UA ever have any scheduled 777 service out of Kai Tak I know that photo was taken during a world tour, but did they ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak?
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 1:06 am

UA857 wrote:
From looking at photos of UA planes at Kai Tak on the Google Images. I found this photo



Did UA ever have any scheduled 777 service out of Kai Tak I know that photo was taken during a world tour, but did they ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak?


Just the 747. First UA 777 scheduled to Hong Kong was in December of 2007.
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 1:19 am

Just the 747. First UA 777 scheduled to Hong Kong was in December of 2007.[/quote]

I believe they also flew their 767 into HKG for a while between HKG - DEL - LHR vv. when they down gauged those sectors on their RTW service.
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 2:09 am

They never had scheduled 777 service into there.

It was mostly 747s, including the 747SP all throughout the '80s. Some 767s in the '90s.

DC10s leased from Canadian/CP Air were used throughout the early '80s as well.
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 6:00 am

I seem to remember they had a non-stop flight from EWR to HKG? It was one of the longest routes for a 777 and the aircraft was towed to the take-off point to conserve whatever fuel was in tanks.

More than 20 years ago so memory is not what it is.

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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 6:25 am

69bug wrote:
I seem to remember they had a non-stop flight from EWR to HKG? It was one of the longest routes for a 777 and the aircraft was towed to the take-off point to conserve whatever fuel was in tanks.

More than 20 years ago so memory is not what it is.

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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 12:26 pm

69bug wrote:
I seem to remember they had a non-stop flight from EWR to HKG? It was one of the longest routes for a 777 and the aircraft was towed to the take-off point to conserve whatever fuel was in tanks.

More than 20 years ago so memory is not what it is.

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Continental started that route (EWR-HKG) in March 2001. Kai Tak closed in July 1998.
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 1:27 pm

CXGabriel wrote:
69bug wrote:
I seem to remember they had a non-stop flight from EWR to HKG? It was one of the longest routes for a 777 and the aircraft was towed to the take-off point to conserve whatever fuel was in tanks.

More than 20 years ago so memory is not what it is.

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Continental started that route (EWR-HKG) in March 2001. Kai Tak closed in July 1998.


United started JFK-HKG that same year, but it was operated by a 747-400.

Keep in mind Kai Tak closed before the 777-200ER entered service, and the standard 777-200 does not have trans-pacific range.
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 1:30 pm

Did you read the picture caption? It kind of answered your question.
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 1:52 pm

Keep in mind Kai Tak closed before the 777-200ER entered service, and the standard 777-200 does not have trans-pacific range.


Correction to your statement: Malaysia airlines did operate their 777-200er series into Kai Tak prior to its closure, so the 777-200er series was operational prior to the shutdown.

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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 2:01 pm

The towing to the runway I believe was done in ORD for ORD-HKG. From what I remember reading the practice was stopped when someone realized the plan was actually taking off ABOVE the MAX takeoff weight. they did the W+B based off of the payload on board and the fuel load BUT since it was towed to the runway with one of those super tugs started up and launched as soon as the engines got to temperature (like 2 min) they launched above MTOW as the max taxi weight was slightly higher but they had no taxi fuel burn. This was when the now standard route over China and Russia was BRAND new so they wanted to have as much contingency fuel as possible.
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 2:05 pm

I can recall being on a crew van in about 1999 when I was a United flight attendant, and a pilot we were riding with who was on the 777 fleet at the time told us that 777 crews were, for the first time ever, getting all the approaches and other navigational documents for United's Asia stations. We all oohed and aahed in the van, shocked at the thought that a 777 or any other twin would ever cross the pacific (the 767-300ERs on the round-the-world flight only did the NRT-DEL-LHR legs). We could only imagine a 747 doing TPAC longhauls, and were just shocked at the idea that some day we could work a 777 across the Pacific. Shows how times have changed!
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 2:10 pm

69bug wrote:
I seem to remember they had a non-stop flight from EWR to HKG? It was one of the longest routes for a 777 and the aircraft was towed to the take-off point to conserve whatever fuel was in tanks.

More than 20 years ago so memory is not what it is.

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As noted you’re confused Continental for UA, briefly mimicked CO’s route from JFK.

Both had served the Kai Tak, but with classic aircraft. I flew out from HKG in 97 on a CO DC-10. Where as UA used a a mix of classic 747s
 
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Re: Did United ever have scheduled 777 service to Kai Tak

Thu May 02, 2019 2:58 pm

Pic linked by OP clearly indicates it was the only UA 777 to ever visit Kai Tak. Thread closed.
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