enilria wrote:wnflyguy wrote:enilria wrote:I'll give them credit. The pattern is quite good. We'll see if they maintain it. They have a reputation of letting the pattern morph into an unbalanced schedule of all mornings or something similar. If they maintain this pattern they will grab some good market share.
Interestingly, even though WN is known for multi-stop flights, looking at the current schedule, none of the flights continue onward to California. The plane just goes back and forth on this route and rotates on the RON. So, while I think they will do well on the locals with this pattern, I don't see how they can compete with HA without at least through passengers. Maybe that will change later on? That's when it will get harder to maintain the local pattern.
In Oct 2019 the first morning flight KOA-HNL #1853 same plane has a 105 min connection/ Etops turn to Flight HNL-OAK #4996
2nd morning KOA-HNL #443 flight same plane 105 min connection/Etops turn to flight HNL-SJC #4980.
First OAK-HNL flight 808 is now a One stop 50 min stop no plane change thru flight to KOA.
SJC-HNL flight #792 has a 110min connection to HNL-KOA #1869.
Sources from my Hawaii trip said that 792 will be a one stop thru flight to LIH in Oct.
Since the east bound flights all require a ETOPS preparation nothing will be a thru flight to the mainland.
But it will give those passengers time to use the New HNL WN gate area restrooms,charging stations,Starbucks and Kona Brewing before the treak to the mainland.
It also eliminates the switching of seats on ground time by the thru passengers taking away prime seats options from Business select and A List customers going on the long haul. It's a ongoing problem on the mainland flights today.
Sounds like ITO is going to happening sometime in 2020 with the same 4 Daily inter island flight schedule times as KOA.
I think as the MAX8 returns to service freeing up the ETOPS NG800 cities like LAX,SAN,PDX,LAS and PHX will Get Added. This will add more aircraft For WN to grow inter island flights from HNL only to around 6 each day from HNL-OGG/KOA/LIH/ITO. 24 daily inter island flights.
I don't see anything beyond that from WN.
So HA will keep it's monopoly on other inter island flights like OGG-KOA or LIH-KOA ect ect.
Hey, thanks for correcting me, but what you have posted is not the published schedule for today or yesterday when I posted this. I'm not sure where you are getting that schedule. Today's schedule shows flight 808 arriving at 1045 into HNL. Flight 4100 from OGG arrives at 1055. There is a 1210 to OGG flight 4231 and there is a flight to OAK at 1245 flight 2369. There is no through flight.
I used October 21 2019 on Southwest.com as a reference for my posting.