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Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu May 09, 2019 6:13 am

Based on the data available so far, routesonline reports that FCO could see the last scheduled service for the type, ending more or less 20 years of operations with TS. Of course, any changes are possible before then. Currently, the fleet still comprise six aircraft.


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-in-2q20/
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu May 09, 2019 6:38 am

Anyone else offering scheduled TATL on A310s still?
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu May 09, 2019 9:06 am

Air Transat is currently the last operator of the Airbus A310 in the western world.

https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a310-last-flights/
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu May 09, 2019 1:27 pm

Grabbed a LGW-YUL flight this summer to check off this aircraft before it's gone.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu May 09, 2019 7:45 pm

It's good that Air Transat more than doubled the number of flights YQB-CDG from 1x weekly starting in February to 2x weekly starting in December for all the winter. According to the seat map, the load factor in winter was already good. Or perhaps it is because of the construction work done in YUL that might limits their slots so they are transferring some of their flights to YQB?
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu May 09, 2019 9:35 pm

AWACSooner wrote:
Grabbed a LGW-YUL flight this summer to check off this aircraft before it's gone.

I'm hoping to do the same on YYZ-YUL-YYZ before it's too late.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Fri May 10, 2019 1:59 am

jetKIWI wrote:
AWACSooner wrote:
Grabbed a LGW-YUL flight this summer to check off this aircraft before it's gone.

I'm hoping to do the same on YYZ-YUL-YYZ before it's too late.


I actually just booked YYZ-YUL in June for the same purpose. I was surprised to see its far more affordable than PD, AC and WS; fares start at $66 CAD one way.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Fri May 10, 2019 8:55 am

How reliable is Air Transat's schedule? Looking to do YYZ-YUL or YUL-YQB in September. Would hate to see another type at the gate! On the dates I am looking to do YYZ-YUL there is an A330 scheduled to depart just 10 minutes earlier. What worries me is that they might combine those flights to the A330 if loads are light.
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Fri May 10, 2019 9:37 am

B747forever wrote:
How reliable is Air Transat's schedule? Looking to do YYZ-YUL or YUL-YQB in September. Would hate to see another type at the gate! On the dates I am looking to do YYZ-YUL there is an A330 scheduled to depart just 10 minutes earlier. What worries me is that they might combine those flights to the A330 if loads are light.


What I can suggest you here is that you try to check if the YYZ-YUL segment is part of a flight that will leave YUL to Europe later. Also, it might be that the aircraft is transferred between the two cities after completing a flight to YYZ and before doing a flight to Europe out of YUL. Even try using flightradar and such to find out whether these flights are already operating and where the aircraft are usually heading to afterward. This could give you clues as to what to expect.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:42 am

Here's another update, with a scheduled last flight moved forward to April 26/27, 2020 on the YQB-CDG-YQB route.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-05jul19/
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:24 am

My favourite Airbus (in terms of looks).

Sad to see it go.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:36 am

noviorbis77 wrote:
My favourite Airbus (in terms of looks).


Indeed, along the A330.

Just for the record:

- A310 first flight: 03 Apr 1982

- A310 first service: 10 Apr 1983

- A310-300 first flight: 08 July 1985

- A310-300 first service: Dec 1985

- First Air Transat A310: C-GFAT Dec 2000
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:47 am

24 years between my first and last A310 flights!! Lufthansa then Royal Jordanian!
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:02 pm

Image

Sad now...

Well I guess they got their money's worth from them. But still... :cry2:
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:16 pm

Time to spare a bit of money to fly the chubby ten before final withdrawal...

It's also time for Airbus to neo it! :pray:
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:21 pm

Poor Kitty.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:30 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
noviorbis77 wrote:
My favourite Airbus (in terms of looks).


Indeed, along the A330.

Just for the record:

- A310 first flight: 03 Apr 1982

- A310 first service: 10 Apr 1983

- A310-300 first flight: 08 July 1985

- A310-300 first service: Dec 1985

- First Air Transat A310: C-GFAT Dec 2000


Stood the test of time.

Hopefully we’ll see military variants for many more years.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:26 pm

Think I will pass on this one. Enjoyed two A310 flights in my life. The first was in 2001 with Lufthansa between Frankfurt and Amsterdam. A nice surprise for such a short trip. The second came in 2015 with Tarom between Bucharest and Amsterdam. I booked this flight only because of the the A310 (and the A318 on the outbound).

In recent years I have considered booking Air Transat in order to experience its A310. So far I have decided against it because of the 3-3-3 economy seating. Life on Lufthansa and Tarom was better with 2-4-2. If I were to live in Canada I would try to get on the Air Transat A310 between Montreal and Toronto. Good luck to all the members of this website who will try to score a ride on one!
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:46 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
Think I will pass on this one. Enjoyed two A310 flights in my life. The first was in 2001 with Lufthansa between Frankfurt and Amsterdam. A nice surprise for such a short trip. The second came in 2015 with Tarom between Bucharest and Amsterdam. I booked this flight only because of the the A310 (and the A318 on the outbound).

In recent years I have considered booking Air Transat in order to experience its A310. So far I have decided against it because of the 3-3-3 economy seating. Life on Lufthansa and Tarom was better with 2-4-2. If I were to live in Canada I would try to get on the Air Transat A310 between Montreal and Toronto. Good luck to all the members of this website who will try to score a ride on one!


Booked Tarom from BRU to OTP back in 2015 just to fly the 310...then it got downgauged to a 73G (hell of a downgrade) a few weeks prior. So when the opportunity to fly TS from LGW to YUL on the 310 last month popped up (and for only $235 US o/w), I jumped on it! Other than the 3-3-3. the seat pitch up in row 5 was really good.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:13 pm

Well that just threw a major curve ball to my plans
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:08 pm

I flew their A310 between London - Toronto much of been around 2001. Cute but very tight in their configuration. The thing I remember most was the crew complaining about having to operate it. Out of interest, did they initially acquire them from taking over another carrier (Royal) ?
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:20 pm

What does the inflight product look like in the TS A310?
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:15 am

In their updated schedule, TS could now end A310 flights a couple of days earlier than previously announced and this time YQB-CDG might be the last route.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-08nov19/
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:01 am

Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:11 am

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Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)


My guess would be that the aircraft were paid for/leases were cheap, their range allowed them to go trans-atlantic, but the aircraft was small enough to be filled up on thinner routes that don't warrant an a330.
Another guess, if they had been able to get some cheap 762s back when they got the A310, they might have taken those for the same reason.
Then again, they already had the A330 when they got the A310.
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:32 am

PANAMsterdam wrote:
Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)


What were their other options? I mean until the A321LR became available? Fly empty seats in larger aircraft? Simply abandon some routes?
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:12 am

flyjay123 wrote:
I flew their A310 between London - Toronto much of been around 2001. Cute but very tight in their configuration. The thing I remember most was the crew complaining about having to operate it. Out of interest, did they initially acquire them from taking over another carrier (Royal) ?


No Royal merged with Canada 3000 and the A310's went to 3000. Transat's first couple came from Emirates, then a Hapag Lloyd machine and a couple of Lufthansa came in 2004. By then Royal / Canada was long gone.
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:05 am

I have personally enjoyed flying the 'chubby sausage' very much. Very comfortable plane....quiet, smooth, very stable even in turbulent weather... maybe a bit slow on the longer sectors...
I have flown it also in 3-3-3 configuration, and I must say that with adequate legroom I didn't find the slightly narrower seats particularly bothersome... it's not as bad as people seem to think it is. It's still better than an 8-across 767 or 10-across DC-10/MD-11.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:33 am

Where are they flying this winter? I was looking at GLA-YYZ but it's now an A332.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:47 am

I need to book one of these before they’re gone. A real end of an era. Classic!
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:58 am

Ugh good riddance. 9 abreast 310s/330s are just atrocious. There's no saving grace to that layout. And people whinge about a 9 abreast 787 :roll:
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:05 pm

What are the current routes for them?
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:14 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)


What were their other options? I mean until the A321LR became available? Fly empty seats in larger aircraft? Simply abandon some routes?


Well the A321LR has 50 seats fewer than the A310 so now they can sell fewer seats on the same routes, plus its a narrow body vs a wide body which of course feels a bit more cramped on longer transatlantic routes. So i'm not sure if the A321 is the perfect replacement.
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:18 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)


What were their other options? I mean until the A321LR became available? Fly empty seats in larger aircraft? Simply abandon some routes?


Well the A321LR has 50 seats fewer than the A310 so now they can sell fewer seats on the same routes, plus its a narrow body vs a wide body which of course feels a bit more cramped on longer transatlantic routes. So i'm not sure if the A321 is the perfect replacement.


Okay, but since you consider they kept the A310 for too long, what do you suggest they should've done before the A321LR?
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:25 pm

Of course the better question might be (and it's been answered above in part anyway) is why Air Transat adopted the A310 so late in it's career and not so much why they kept it so long ? You also might ask why an A310 or 762 sized plane isn't still available to buy new, but that's for the 'MoM' discussion threads really. Air Transat are now downsizing rarther than upsizing to cover it's marginal routes. Over here at GLA we saw the A321 arrive for the first YYZ winter service last week. Next summer it goes up to an all A330 service, replacing the A310 which did much of the summer time work alongside the A330-200 and occasional A333.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:31 pm

Any chance they'll use them on YQB-FLL this winter ?
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:18 pm

United_fan wrote:
Any chance they'll use them on YQB-FLL this winter ?


Yes, Tuesdays only. x4 weekly A321 and x1 weekly A310 from YQB-FLL this winter. :)
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:26 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)


What were their other options? I mean until the A321LR became available? Fly empty seats in larger aircraft? Simply abandon some routes?


Well the A321LR has 50 seats fewer than the A310 so now they can sell fewer seats on the same routes, plus its a narrow body vs a wide body which of course feels a bit more cramped on longer transatlantic routes. So i'm not sure if the A321 is the perfect replacement.


Let's say it's an half empty or half full glass. The A310 of Air Transat were 9 abreast, so going to the A321 will add 1,5inch of width to each seat (now 18 instead of 16.5 on the A310) ... but you loose 1 inch of pitch ;-)

Having used Delta's 757's over the Atlantic a few times, It's true NB's are less attractive during boarding or if you want to stretch your legs during the flight, but as long as you are in your seat, it doesn't make any difference with a WB. Now, on short term, as long as competitors don't increase their capacity, I'm afraid the change will be beneficial only to Air Transat's margins, not to the consumer as they can charge more per passenger since there are less seats need to be filled.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:55 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
Why did Air Transit keep its A310's so long? I mean, it is not the most fuel efficient aircraft that's available. :)


What were their other options? I mean until the A321LR became available? Fly empty seats in larger aircraft? Simply abandon some routes?


Well the A321LR has 50 seats fewer than the A310 so now they can sell fewer seats on the same routes, plus its a narrow body vs a wide body which of course feels a bit more cramped on longer transatlantic routes. So i'm not sure if the A321 is the perfect replacement.


Air Transat is adding frequency on some routes to counterbalance for the seat reduction. YQB-CDG will go from 3x weekly to 4x weekly next summer, for example.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:13 pm

Anybody have a 310 flight schedule?
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:47 pm

I know they have in the past. But are they currently operating any A310 flights within Canada?
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:13 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
I know they have in the past. But are they currently operating any A310 flights within Canada?


Yes, YQB-YUL is often operated on an A310 even if the flight is only 45 minutes long
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:12 am

skipness1E wrote:
Where are they flying this winter? I was looking at GLA-YYZ but it's now an A332.


Selected dates between January and March are operated by the A310 to GLA.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:21 am

Yes I know, I booked on that very basis and now it's a ****ing A332. So best chance is to get to YYZ and book one out of there that week. Somehow !
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:27 pm

Weren't they supposed to be withdrawn around 2010/2 but then they decided to hang on to them?
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:29 pm

drerx7 wrote:
Anybody have a 310 flight schedule?


Here's a quick run down, this is as of Jan 1st, 2020 so most of these flights should go unchanged until the end of March when the winter schedule winds down. Currently there are only 4 A310's scheduled to fly this winter, the other 2 will sit and serve as back-ups in case of AOG's. This is how the schedule is loaded but there may be a few changes here and there.

Out of YQB (8 Weekly Flights)
CUN x2
CDG x2
FLL x1
PVR x1
PUJ x2

Out of YUL (10 Weekly Flights)
PTP x2
SJO x2
MAD x2
CCC x1
CZM x1
FLL x1
MBJ x1

Out of YYZ (7 Weekly Flights)
CUN x1
AZS x1
OPO x1
MAN x1
SJO x1
LIS x1
GLA x1
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:04 pm

TS still operate six A310s, C-GLAT, C-GPAT, C-GSAT, C-GTSH, C-GTSW & C-GTSY. On flightradar24, you can follow them and see where they are sent.
 
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:43 pm

The baby bus is one of my favorite aircraft! Air India had a ton of these when I was growing up and always enjoyed all my flights.

Will try to book myself on one of these before they fly out into history books. I think TS flies A310's to MRS and FCO from here? TS has 9 across though! :(
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:32 am

BawliBooch wrote:
The baby bus is one of my favorite aircraft! Air India had a ton of these when I was growing up and always enjoyed all my flights.

Will try to book myself on one of these before they fly out into history books. I think TS flies A310's to MRS and FCO from here? TS has 9 across though! :(

I booked myself on CDG-YQB on April 27th, what seems to be the last flight of the A310. Fingers crossed for no equipment change.
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Re: Air Transat tentatively schedules last A310 service in 2Q20

Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:50 pm

According to this article from today, Air Transat will keep two of their A310 after their last scheduled flight in order to have some backup aircrafts for summer 2020

http://www.lesailesduquebec.com/air-tra ... hivernale/

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