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Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:02 am
by UA857
When I was looking at this website that shows daily departures from DL's DFW hub http://www.departedflights.com/DLDFWhub.html I noticed that there are no long-haul international flights out of DFW? Can you tell me why?

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:08 am
by enilria
I think they had some Mexico at some point. It was never a large hub. AA was always much bigger. Same reason MEM never had more than just an AMS. The hub wasn’t big enough. Plus interior hubs have traditionally had very limited long haul service. DEN, for example, has only very recently gotten a reasonable amount of long haul. United didn’t even have a single long haul there until well after DL closed the DFW hub.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:12 am
by toltommy
Delta relied heavily on the TriStar back in the days of the DFW hub. Did the plane have the legs to fly trans-atlantic from DFW?

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:17 am
by Semperfi28
I always thought Frankfurt was in Germany.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:18 am
by ord
DFW was actually a big Delta hub, peaking at over 250 daily flights. Delta at one point had about 1/3 of the market. Nonstop service was offered from 1984-1995 to Frankfurt. There was also a nonstop to Honolulu.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:18 am
by johnclipper
DL used to fly DFW-FRA. Believe with the -500 first then the MD-11. I remember when I lived in DFW back in '97-'00 the flight was just ending.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:22 am
by aloha73g
toltommy wrote:
Delta relied heavily on the TriStar back in the days of the DFW hub. Did the plane have the legs to fly trans-atlantic from DFW?

Delta definitely flew ATL-DFW-HNL in addition to the ATL-HNL nonstop--both on TriStars. While not international, the distance is comparable. I think HNL-DFW continued on DL until 2000 or 2001.

Aloha!

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 am
by braniff2hav
Delta flew to FRA non-stop from DFW for a few years and I think it was off and on.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:30 am
by jfk777
Delta flew DFW to FRA for years, remember back the then UK was ruled by the awful Bermuda 2 treaty which probably limited the US airlines from DFW to LGW to one airline.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:33 am
by LAXdude1023
DL flew DFW-FRA for ages.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:41 am
by BN747DFWHNL
As mentioned by a few already, DL flew DFW-FRA and DFW-HNL during their hub
years. Mid to late 80s and into mid 90s DL occupied all of what then was Terminal
4E/now is Terminal E, so it was not an insignificant operation back then. The few
times I've flown into E the past few years, I fondly remember it as the former "Delta
Terminal," which had TriStars to the above destinations as well as LAX, ATL, Florida.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:44 am
by sprxUSA
In case no one mentioned it, DL flew DFW-FRA nonstop. LOL.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:16 am
by 4engines4lnghll
sprxUSA wrote:
In case no one mentioned it, DL flew DFW-FRA nonstop. LOL.

Hahaha I was just about to say... did no one mention DFW-FRA? I think the answer is they didn’t want to... so, move on

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:57 am
by Tomsixty2
My wife and I flew on a L1011-250 from DFW to FRA in the mid 80s

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:15 am
by DRG
Did Delta fly from DFW-FRA?

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:18 am
by 777law
Please delete if this is addressed elsewhere or if its off topic, but why did DL pull out of DFW? I remember flying TPA-DFW-SEA a few times in the late '90s & early 00's and thinking DL was pretty well entrenched at DFW. What happened?

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:38 am
by umichman
777law wrote:
Please delete if this is addressed elsewhere or if its off topic, but why did DL pull out of DFW? I remember flying TPA-DFW-SEA a few times in the late '90s & early 00's and thinking DL was pretty well entrenched at DFW. What happened?


Too much competition from AA (and WN at DAL) and the economics of RJ flying quickly went south.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:39 am
by 910A
enilria wrote:
I think they had some Mexico at some point. It was never a large hub. AA was always much bigger. Same reason MEM never had more than just an AMS. The hub wasn’t big enough. Plus interior hubs have traditionally had very limited long haul service. DEN, for example, has only very recently gotten a reasonable amount of long haul. United didn’t even have a single long haul there until well after DL closed the DFW hub.

Wrong...In the mid 70's at DFW #1 was Braniff, #2 - Delta and #3- American. At that time DL operated a number of widebodies to ATL, LAX, SFO, LAS. (741 and L-1011).

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:46 am
by Max Q
I thought Delta had a LGW service out of DFW for a while with the L1011-500

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:38 am
by rwsea
DFW was always a less important hub for DL than ATL/CVG/SLC at the time. Pre-bankruptcy in the mid-2000s, DL had a much smaller international footprint that centered on ATL, select flights out of JFK as a holdover from the PanAm days, and 1-2 flights from CVG. SkyTeam was in its infancy and DL didn't yet have access to the powerful NW/KL operation at AMS. DL didn't have access to LHR and was forced to fly to LGW as a result. There was also the PDX experiment in the late 90s that was gone by then too. DL had almost no footprint in Asia when they went into bankruptcy - ATL-NRT was the only route.

Through the bankruptcy process DL closed DFW and simultaneously invested in NYC (and later SEA/LAX) to rapidly transform and expand from a domestic focused carrier (with heavy traffic to and from Florida that was increasingly being lost to B6, WN, etc.) to much more of an international footprint.

There are many more factors at play but considering just the above it's clear why DFW was never an international hub for Delta.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:47 am
by Polot
rwsea wrote:
DFW was always a less important hub for DL than ATL/CVG/SLC at the time. Pre-bankruptcy in the mid-2000s, DL had a much smaller international footprint that centered on ATL, select flights out of JFK as a holdover from the PanAm days, and 1-2 flights from CVG. SkyTeam was in its infancy and DL didn't yet have access to the powerful NW/KL operation at AMS. DL didn't have access to LHR and was forced to fly to LGW as a result. There was also the PDX experiment in the late 90s that was gone by then too. DL had almost no footprint in Asia when they went into bankruptcy - ATL-NRT was the only route.

Through the bankruptcy process DL closed DFW and simultaneously invested in NYC (and later SEA/LAX) to rapidly transform and expand from a domestic focused carrier (with heavy traffic to and from Florida that was increasingly being lost to B6, WN, etc.) to much more of an international footprint.

There are many more factors at play but considering just the above it's clear why DFW was never an international hub for Delta.

DL closed the DFW hub before they entered bankruptcy. They had long been losing money there, AA had eclipsed them too much and DL couldn’t compete.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:54 am
by SpaceshipDC10
Tomsixty2 wrote:
My wife and I flew on a L1011-250 from DFW to FRA in the mid 80s


Out of the back of my mind, it was their only -250, converted from a -1 or -100 specifically for that purpose, and as I recall it, DFW-FRA was their first European route back then, or perhaps second if it was preceded by LGW.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:32 am
by ord
910A wrote:
Wrong...In the mid 70's at DFW #1 was Braniff, #2 - Delta and #3- American. At that time DL operated a number of widebodies to ATL, LAX, SFO, LAS. (741 and L-1011).


Incorrect. In the 1970s, yes Braniff was #1. But American was #2 with around 100+ daily flights and Delta was #3 with about 50 flights. Delta was never larger than American at DFW.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 11:46 am
by Boeing727
I flew on an L-1011 FRA-DFW in 1988 with Captain John Steiger in charge, who was piloting the Convair 880 in the below picture. He was kind enough to give my father and myself a tour of the flight deck and encouraged me to follow my dream, which I did...thanks Captain.


Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:18 pm
by SANMAN66
toltommy wrote:
Delta relied heavily on the TriStar back in the days of the DFW hub. Did the plane have the legs to fly trans-atlantic from DFW?

The Tristars did have legs to do transatlantic. When I was stationed in Germany in 1989, Delta had a DFW-FRA flight.When I came home on leave, I took that flight, which was an L-10-11.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:34 pm
by Kilopond
rwsea wrote:
[...]SkyTeam was in its infancy and DL didn't yet have access to the powerful NW/KL operation at AMS.[...]


Delta`s first transatlantic partnership took off at VIE and GVA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Excellence

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:36 pm
by gdg9
I thought there was also DFW-MUC, DFW-CDG on Delta back in the day, but I could be wrong.

It was June/July timeframe in 2005 when the hub closed. Went from 250-260 daily flights to about 20. DL had all of Terminal E and the Satellite, then down to 4 gates. E was a literal ghost town for a few years after that. Was odd to walk a terminal with 30+ empty gates, abandoned stores etc. If memory serves, I think a temporary wall was put up by E30 or so to hide the last 6-8 gates on the concourse.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:55 pm
by jasoncrh
Delta only flew DFW - FRA.

MUC was a short lived route from Cincinnati in the mid 1990s. Delta flew and continues to fly CVG - CDG.

Air France flew to DFW briefly in 2000-2001, I think? And now they're back.

gdg9 wrote:
I thought there was also DFW-MUC, DFW-CDG on Delta back in the day, but I could be wrong.

It was June/July timeframe in 2005 when the hub closed. Went from 250-260 daily flights to about 20. DL had all of Terminal E and the Satellite, then down to 4 gates. E was a literal ghost town for a few years after that. Was odd to walk a terminal with 30+ empty gates, abandoned stores etc. If memory serves, I think a temporary wall was put up by E30 or so to hide the last 6-8 gates on the concourse.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:42 pm
by deltaffindfw
gdg9 wrote:
I thought there was also DFW-MUC, DFW-CDG on Delta back in the day, but I could be wrong.

It was June/July timeframe in 2005 when the hub closed. Went from 250-260 daily flights to about 20. DL had all of Terminal E and the Satellite, then down to 4 gates. E was a literal ghost town for a few years after that. Was odd to walk a terminal with 30+ empty gates, abandoned stores etc. If memory serves, I think a temporary wall was put up by E30 or so to hide the last 6-8 gates on the concourse.


"Operation Clockwork" as it was called happened on January 31, 2005. 250 flights to 21... Very sad day at Terminal E...

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:51 pm
by SpaceshipDC10
Kilopond wrote:
rwsea wrote:
[...]SkyTeam was in its infancy and DL didn't yet have access to the powerful NW/KL operation at AMS.[...]


Delta`s first transatlantic partnership took off at VIE and GVA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Excellence


Are you referring to the OS/SR/DL joint-venture on the VIE-GVA-IAD route? If so, I believe DL had a transatlantic partnership prior to that with at least SR. After they acquired Pan Am European routes, amongst which was a service to GVA from JFK via CDG, or was it BRU, a year later or so, I believe they partnered with SR on the latter non-stop daily service to JFK.

jasoncrh wrote:
Delta only flew DFW - FRA.


Okay, so not even LGW, contrary to my doubt. Also, contrary to what I said, DL had six, not just one L-1011-250, all converted from -1s. For more about the new version, here are more details about the changes: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive ... %20tristar

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:58 pm
by enilria
910A wrote:
enilria wrote:
I think they had some Mexico at some point. It was never a large hub. AA was always much bigger. Same reason MEM never had more than just an AMS. The hub wasn’t big enough. Plus interior hubs have traditionally had very limited long haul service. DEN, for example, has only very recently gotten a reasonable amount of long haul. United didn’t even have a single long haul there until well after DL closed the DFW hub.

Wrong...In the mid 70's at DFW #1 was Braniff, #2 - Delta and #3- American. At that time DL operated a number of widebodies to ATL, LAX, SFO, LAS. (741 and L-1011).

Are you going to also tell me that when the dinosaurs roamed the earth that AA didn't have the largest hub? <eye roll> Trouble with your comment is that in the 1970s Delta did not have a hub in DFW. If that was a hub, how many hubs did Delta have on this map?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984/25211001018

Once Delta had a real hub there Braniff was already gone and AA was the biggest by far. In fact it was DL that filled that gap replacing BN, for a while.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:46 pm
by Cointrin330
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Kilopond wrote:
rwsea wrote:
[...]SkyTeam was in its infancy and DL didn't yet have access to the powerful NW/KL operation at AMS.[...]


Delta`s first transatlantic partnership took off at VIE and GVA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Excellence


Are you referring to the OS/SR/DL joint-venture on the VIE-GVA-IAD route? If so, I believe DL had a transatlantic partnership prior to that with at least SR. After they acquired Pan Am European routes, amongst which was a service to GVA from JFK via CDG, or was it BRU, a year later or so, I believe they partnered with SR on the latter non-stop daily service to JFK.

jasoncrh wrote:
Delta only flew DFW - FRA.


Okay, so not even LGW, contrary to my doubt. Also, contrary to what I said, DL had six, not just one L-1011-250, all converted from -1s. For more about the new version, here are more details about the changes: https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive ... %20tristar


It was the Atlantic Excellence Parntership and it involved Swissair, Singapore Airlines, and Delta.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:00 pm
by superjeff
UA857 wrote:
When I was looking at this website that shows daily departures from DL's DFW hub http://www.departedflights.com/DLDFWhub.html I noticed that there are no long-haul international flights out of DFW? Can you tell me why?



Back when Delta had their DFW hub, they flew TriStars nonstop DFW-FRA daily (they also flew DFW-HNL with TriStars). This was in addition to flights to MEX. So yes, Delta did fly international out of DFW (they even had their own customs facilty in what is now the High 30's area of Terminal E).

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:10 pm
by ScottB
rwsea wrote:
Pre-bankruptcy in the mid-2000s, DL had a much smaller international footprint that centered on ATL, select flights out of JFK as a holdover from the PanAm days, and 1-2 flights from CVG.


The international presence out of CVG was larger than you think. LGW/CDG/FRA were served consistently for well over a decade (although ORY was served before the U.S. carriers were forced to move to CDG). DL also served both AMS and FCO non-stop from CVG briefly and had served ZRH for several years in the 1990s. It was pretty common to see several MD-11s at the low B gates in those years.

JFK also maintained a very broad selection of transatlantic flights on DL. Summer 2004 saw non-stop service to AMS, ATH, BCN, BRU, FRA, IST, MAD, MXP, SVO, NCE, CDG, FCO, and VCE. Most of that was indeed inherited via the PA asset purchase but I'd hardly call that "select flights." Few U.S. carrier hubs have ever had non-stop service to that many transatlantic markets at once on a single carrier -- maybe JFK, EWR, PHL, and ATL.

gdg9 wrote:
It was June/July timeframe in 2005 when the hub closed. Went from 250-260 daily flights to about 20. DL had all of Terminal E and the Satellite, then down to 4 gates.


The DFW hub was wound down in mid-to-late 2004. I connected through there in December 2004 and it was already a near-ghost-town. At the time, thanks to CO & NW joining SkyTeam, DL was sharing the terminal with those two carriers as well -- they were in the lower-numbered gates. I believe there were some international and charter carriers using the international gates at the end as well (I remember seeing Champion 727s parked at that end of the terminal frequently).

rwsea wrote:
Through the bankruptcy process DL closed DFW and simultaneously invested in NYC (and later SEA/LAX) to rapidly transform and expand from a domestic focused carrier (with heavy traffic to and from Florida that was increasingly being lost to B6, WN, etc.) to much more of an international footprint.


As others have pointed out, the DFW hub closed a couple of years before DL's bankruptcy filing. The flights were largely moved to CVG and ATL, not NYC; they didn't really have the slots needed to build up NYC. The real investment in NYC began with the slot swap they engineered with US. CVG was wound down once they had access to NW's far more powerful DTW hub.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:13 pm
by Josh32121
DL had significant operations at DAL pre-DFW and (obvs) pre-deregulation. I think that became the basis for the DFW hub, although it was never bigger than AA or BN.

My grandparents definitely flew BNA-DFW-FRA (an out-of-the-way routing) in 1985 on DL.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:24 pm
by spinotter
Semperfi28 wrote:
I always thought Frankfurt was in Germany.


And yet there exist more than one city in Germany named Frankfurt.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 7:49 pm
by TriStar500
I flew DFW-FRA in an L1011-500 in April 1992 and FRA-DFW- FRA on B767-300ER in April 1993.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:02 pm
by Cunard
How many times has DFW-FRA been mentioned in this thread?

If know one gets it by now they never will!

For those questiong Delta's first European destination, LGW was the airline's first transatlantic destination followed by FRA, both served from ATL.

The United Kingdom was the airline's first Intercontinental European country but not their first intercontinental country as Delta were already flying to Venezuela prior to 1978.

ATL-LGW commenced on the 30 April 1978
ATL-FRA commenced on the 08 June 1979.

DFW-FRA commenced on the 16 June 1984.

When Braniff collapsed on the 12 May 1982 Delta immediately applied for route authority to be awarded DFW-LGW only to be beaten by American Airlines who inaugurated their first transatlantic route from DFW to LGW on the 19 May 1982 initially with the Boeing 747 which was superseded in the August of 1982 by the DC10-30.

The reason why American Airlines was awarded route authority for DFW-LGW when Braniff collapsed was the fact that Delta did not have any available aircraft to start the route whereas American Airlines had spare capacity with their underutilized fleet of Boeing 747-123's.

Delta never flew DFW-LGW.

DFW-LGW was first inaugurated by Braniff International on the 01 March 1978 operated by N601BN. American took over DFW-LGW from Braniff on the 19 May 1982 and has remained to this day the only airline from the USA other than Braniff to have served London from DFW.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:23 am
by TheGov
A number of posters are correct: the only transatlantic service DL offered out of DFW was to Frankfurt with the L-1011-500. In the beginning, the flight arrived from FRA and cleared customs at terminal 2W. Once clear of customs, the pax were bused to terminal 4E. The aircraft would be brought over to 4E for the departure to Frankfurt, usually from gate 5 or gate 8 (they are the same gate, just re-numbered at some time. It was/is the only widebody gate on the north end of the terminal) Once the customs hall was built on the the south end of 4E, gates 33-36, the aircraft never had to move once it arrived at gate 36. (As a side note, BR and then BA used gate 34 for their DFW-LGW flight operated with DC-10 a/c). Later, at the height of the DFW hub, flights to MEX and ACA were added with 727 aircraft. As far as the FRA flight was concerned, if my memory is correct, it never operated with the MD-11. It transitioned from the L-1011 to the B767-300ER.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:41 am
by Super88
DL operated DFW-FRA, DFW-MEX, DFW-ACA.....DFW-FRA went from L1011 to 767-300, no MD-11, MD-11's did operate an ATL-DFW-ATL for a short time, DFW to MEX/ACA used 727's....for a short time the A310 was used for a JFK-DFW(over night)-back to JFK.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:01 am
by FF630
I flew JAX-HNL many times via DFW. In the winter due to strong head winds the ATL-HNL nonstop flight would often have to stop for fuel at LAX. However, the DFW-HNL flight never had that issue. I learned to always book the return via DFW. Both flights were operated on Tri-Stars which I believe were faster than the American DC-10.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:21 am
by dfwjim1
Since we are beating DFW - FRA to death I am curious as to why DL choose to even fly this route when their passengers going to FRA could have easily been routed through ATL.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:15 pm
by TheGov
dfwjim1 wrote:
Since we are beating DFW - FRA to death I am curious as to why DL choose to even fly this route when their passengers going to FRA could have easily been routed through ATL.


I think at the time the service began sometime in 1984, US- German frequencies were fairly easy to obtain. I suspect DL wanted to add it to the DFW hub operation to show AA and the metroplex that they were serious about wanting to build their operation there. What better way was there to add legitimacy to an operation than a transatlantic flight? Remember that at that time, DFW was the second largest hub and only other hub for DL. CVG wasn't even close. Only after the addition of WA and PA did DL become a multi-hub airline.

Finally, for what it is worth, I don't recall the load factors on that trip to be horrible. While not as high as any ATL-FRA trip, it held its own for quite a while.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 11:45 pm
by Coexstud
I think it may be the reason they took 777’s and 767’s all day long from ATL too MCo focused predominantly on domestic divaship and less on long haul international for the longest time

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:08 am
by 11725Flyer
In February, 1992, DL flew to three international destinations:
Acapulco
Frankfurt (Daily LH flight was included in the timetable)
Mexico City

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:48 am
by n2dru
Coexstud wrote:
I think it may be the reason they took 777’s and 767’s all day long from ATL too MCo focused predominantly on domestic divaship and less on long haul international for the longest time


Actually 777 turns on ATLMCO was for crew familiarization. The 764s were primarily domestic birds (replacements of the L1011s) until the international expansion. But both provided extra lift on a very busy route.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:08 am
by chunhimlai
Delta did fly dfw-fra

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:33 am
by Joeblow
In addition to the FRA, MEX, and ACA flights noted above, DL also operated DFW-PBC and DFW-MTY in late 2000/early 2001, according to http://www.departedflights.com/DLDFWhub.html.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:58 am
by KlimaBXsst
Delta learned that it was not financially wise to have tiny little hubs in DFW, MEM or CVG.

This is why they have gone in big with their hubs in places like SLC and SEA. They learned a decade ago hubs have to be full sized to make money.

People need to chill and realize DL kind of knows what it is doing.

Re: Why didn't Delta fly International out of DFW?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:07 am
by grbauc
KlimaBXsst wrote:
Delta learned that it was not financially wise to have tiny little hubs in DFW, MEM or CVG.

This is why they have gone in big with their hubs in places like SLC and SEA. They learned a decade ago hubs have to be full sized to make money.

People need to chill and realize DL kind of knows what it is doing.



Thanks for the chill info... Good to know. We are on a arm chair quarterback site so I don't think that's going to happen. Questioning is good and analyzing what and why is great for conversation.