impilot wrote:

Longhornmaniac wrote:

Varsity1 wrote:

Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.

That's not remotely true. At my regional, upgrades are around 2 years right now. A captain on year 3 pay will be making in excess of $90/hr, and it will be over $95/hr on Jan 1. The top of our pay scale is like $150/hr.

You definitely don't seem to understand the difference between a block hour and a credit hour. I'm deadheading back to base on Friday morning. I'm getting paid 4.2 hours for that, and not blocking anything. In fact, I'm going to just go home instead of back to base.

It's not at all uncommon for people to credit 90+ hours a month, but perhaps only actually block 50-60.

As a matter of fact, I expect to make more than 65K as a first year FO, between salary, per diem, and bonuses.

Your information seems to be about 5 years old.

What regional tops out at $150/hr? Looking at the top regional pay scales I don’t see it.

usxguy wrote:

32andBelow wrote:

SierraPacific wrote:

I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.

Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.

Uh. I beg to differ. Mokulele Airlines has NEVER had to cancel a flight due to lack of crew** (except for the super rare exceptions of sick calls and they can't reposition someone in time). And they were the first Caravan operator to require *2 pilots*... And they operate 110 flights a day, so no small operation at all.

We used to have HUNDREDS of qualified pilots waiting in the pool to get hired. And many actually flow over to captain rather than jump ship once they hit 1500 hours. MW isn't known for high pay either. But, treat your staff right, they treat you right.

Wingtips56 wrote:

Anyway ..... back to topic. Is Via done?

Gulfstream500 wrote:

Wingtips56 wrote:

Anyway ..... back to topic. Is Via done?

No planes off the ground in over a day.

Seems all operations have been suspended.

USPIT10L wrote:

Gulfstream500 wrote:

Wingtips56 wrote:

Anyway ..... back to topic. Is Via done?

No planes off the ground in over a day.

Seems all operations have been suspended.

If that's the case, why is their website still up and running?

77H wrote:

usxguy wrote:

32andBelow wrote:

Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.

Uh. I beg to differ. Mokulele Airlines has NEVER had to cancel a flight due to lack of crew** (except for the super rare exceptions of sick calls and they can't reposition someone in time). And they were the first Caravan operator to require *2 pilots*... And they operate 110 flights a day, so no small operation at all.

We used to have HUNDREDS of qualified pilots waiting in the pool to get hired. And many actually flow over to captain rather than jump ship once they hit 1500 hours. MW isn't known for high pay either. But, treat your staff right, they treat you right.

I looked at finishing my commercial and applying to MW about 5-6 years ago right out of college. I was shocked to learn just how little FOs make at MW, especially considering HI’s high cost of living. I was about to bite the bullet and press on with it when I landed a management gig at one of the majors. It’s not flying but it affords me a much more comfortable lifestyle.

Do many of MW’s FOs have second jobs ?

77H

usxguy wrote:

77H wrote:

usxguy wrote:

Uh. I beg to differ. Mokulele Airlines has NEVER had to cancel a flight due to lack of crew** (except for the super rare exceptions of sick calls and they can't reposition someone in time). And they were the first Caravan operator to require *2 pilots*... And they operate 110 flights a day, so no small operation at all.

We used to have HUNDREDS of qualified pilots waiting in the pool to get hired. And many actually flow over to captain rather than jump ship once they hit 1500 hours. MW isn't known for high pay either. But, treat your staff right, they treat you right.

I looked at finishing my commercial and applying to MW about 5-6 years ago right out of college. I was shocked to learn just how little FOs make at MW, especially considering HI’s high cost of living. I was about to bite the bullet and press on with it when I landed a management gig at one of the majors. It’s not flying but it affords me a much more comfortable lifestyle.

Do many of MW’s FOs have second jobs ?

77H

Some work "light" part time jobs. But the airline has never been in short supply of crews & applicants. MW was the first Part 135 to require dual crew, and the SICs were able to log all their time. The regionals loved MW crews because they were taught true CRM out the door, and of course good stick & rudder skills.

Back to VIA - will be a shame if they have shut down. But haven't they been a mess for a few years now? Like 3 or 4? (and why is it that all 50-seat charter operators are uh, mismanaged..)

Longhornmaniac wrote:

impilot wrote:

Longhornmaniac wrote:

That's not remotely true. At my regional, upgrades are around 2 years right now. A captain on year 3 pay will be making in excess of $90/hr, and it will be over $95/hr on Jan 1. The top of our pay scale is like $150/hr.

You definitely don't seem to understand the difference between a block hour and a credit hour. I'm deadheading back to base on Friday morning. I'm getting paid 4.2 hours for that, and not blocking anything. In fact, I'm going to just go home instead of back to base.

It's not at all uncommon for people to credit 90+ hours a month, but perhaps only actually block 50-60.

As a matter of fact, I expect to make more than 65K as a first year FO, between salary, per diem, and bonuses.

Your information seems to be about 5 years old.

What regional tops out at $150/hr? Looking at the top regional pay scales I don’t see it.

My mistake. Republic tops out at $140/hr starting next year. Currently $136/hr.

Longhornmaniac wrote:

I'm hearing that Via has shut down. I had a friend who was going through simulator training for them in Houston and they were all abruptly told to go home today and that the airline was done. I don't have specifics, but I certainly don't think anyone is surprised by this.

tcfc424 wrote:

I'm not a lawyer, but if I didn't know they hadn't flown a flight in a week and booked a ticket for, say tomorrow...wouldn't that be a kind of fraud (representing for sale something you have no ability or anticipation of fulfilling)?

crownvic wrote:

Via Air has their corporate office right by my home. It is the strangest location because if you travel just half a block passed it, there is a residential area surrounded by beautiful lakefront homes in Maitland Florida. There is a house just several hundred feet away from that office that would sell for well over a million dollars (NOT MINE.. LOL). It just seems so odd for an airline to have its corporate headquarters in a residential part of Orlando nowhere near any airport. You drive around a scenic lake looking at the estate homes, make one turn go up the street 100 feet and there it is VIA AIR slapped on the side of a building.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Via+A ... 81.3670474

WA707atMSP wrote:

crownvic wrote:

Via Air has their corporate office right by my home. It is the strangest location because if you travel just half a block passed it, there is a residential area surrounded by beautiful lakefront homes in Maitland Florida. There is a house just several hundred feet away from that office that would sell for well over a million dollars (NOT MINE.. LOL). It just seems so odd for an airline to have its corporate headquarters in a residential part of Orlando nowhere near any airport. You drive around a scenic lake looking at the estate homes, make one turn go up the street 100 feet and there it is VIA AIR slapped on the side of a building.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Via+A ... 81.3670474

It may be surprising for an airline, but it's not surprising in other industries. Many companies' headquarters are located in places that are just a short drive from where their top executives live, because, like the rest of us, executives hate to be stuck in traffic.

WA707atMSP wrote:

crownvic wrote:

Via Air has their corporate office right by my home. It is the strangest location because if you travel just half a block passed it, there is a residential area surrounded by beautiful lakefront homes in Maitland Florida. There is a house just several hundred feet away from that office that would sell for well over a million dollars (NOT MINE.. LOL). It just seems so odd for an airline to have its corporate headquarters in a residential part of Orlando nowhere near any airport. You drive around a scenic lake looking at the estate homes, make one turn go up the street 100 feet and there it is VIA AIR slapped on the side of a building.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Via+A ... 81.3670474

It may be surprising for an airline, but it's not surprising in other industries. Many companies' headquarters are located in places that are just a short drive from where their top executives live, because, like the rest of us, executives hate to be stuck in traffic.

drdisque wrote:

E145 flying AUS-DEN-ISN. This is a routing this flight number has flown in the past and is presumably an oil charter.

Blueknows wrote:

The end of VIAair begins. From the ashes the Pink Flamingos will take over all there routes

https://www.wbrc.com/2019/05/22/whats-g ... -airlines/

Following Wednesday’s confirmation that the Florida-based airline has decided to change and return its business model to a charter service (with the exception of offering commercial flights from Jackson, Miss. to Orlando, Fla.), Via Airlines has been next to impossible to get on the phone.

jonnyclam123 wrote:

VC841 AUS-SFB is currently in the air.

steeler83 wrote:

sunking737 wrote:

Another airline trying to make money flying small jets..

Another airline??? You mean other airlines have tried this -- and failed??? Like who???

RJNUT wrote:

jonnyclam123 wrote:

VC841 AUS-SFB is currently in the air.

Which has not been one of their scheduled routes, so must be a re-positioning of resources out of AUS as that all concludes May 30th (or , now, probably sooner)

rajincajun01 wrote:

RJNUT wrote:

jonnyclam123 wrote:

VC841 AUS-SFB is currently in the air.

Which has not been one of their scheduled routes, so must be a re-positioning of resources out of AUS as that all concludes May 30th (or , now, probably sooner)

There is still one ViaAir E145 on the cargo ramp at AUS.

Gulfstream500 wrote:

rajincajun01 wrote:

RJNUT wrote:

Which has not been one of their scheduled routes, so must be a re-positioning of resources out of AUS as that all concludes May 30th (or , now, probably sooner)

There is still one ViaAir E145 on the cargo ramp at AUS.

I think that one may have been repossessed (unless it’s either n824hk or n841hk)

lpdal wrote:

Sad to see another EMB120 operator gone. If they had listed their inventory on MyIDTravel, I would have flown on them just to ride on an EMB120.

Is Southern Airways Express going to go the same way?

molitvic20 wrote:

I wonder if Contour would ever be interesting in purchasing Via Air. Just a thought.

Gulfstream500 wrote:

molitvic20 wrote:

I wonder if Contour would ever be interesting in purchasing Via Air. Just a thought.

How about Midwest buying out Via?

(In their price range, planes are almost 20 years old)

Contour certainly is a possibility.

rajincajun01 wrote:

Gulfstream500 wrote:

molitvic20 wrote:

I wonder if Contour would ever be interesting in purchasing Via Air. Just a thought.

How about Midwest buying out Via?

(In their price range, planes are almost 20 years old)

Contour certainly is a possibility.

What’s the benefit other than a AOC? You can already get RJs dirt cheap. There is zero brand equity. I’m sure the charter contracts could be lured easy. Let them sink.

Gulfstream500 wrote:

rajincajun01 wrote:

Gulfstream500 wrote:

How about Midwest buying out Via?

(In their price range, planes are almost 20 years old)

Contour certainly is a possibility.

What’s the benefit other than a AOC? You can already get RJs dirt cheap. There is zero brand equity. I’m sure the charter contracts could be lured easy. Let them sink.

Brand equity does not matter when you have the full intent of rebranding. Two ERJs and an AOC is perfect for Midwest.

sprxUSA wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

They are done with commercial service.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/05/31/via ... r-flights/

What a lousy written article. Seems Beckley moved since it WAS in West Virginia lol.
Not sorry to see it end its fiasco of a scheduled operation.

For now, Via Airlines is returning to the charter business, the sector of the industry the airline has over 20 years of experience with. With one commercial flight scheduled to continue, it’s uncertain if the airline has any future plans to reinstate any other scheduled commercial flights.