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Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 6:08 pm

Florida-based Via Airlines has cut flights from its schedule due to the ongoing pilot shortage. The cuts have caused a reduction in current service as well as delaying planned new services. The airline expects the cutbacks to last through the summer and says it won’t hinder further growth planned for the end of the year.

New planned routes between Orlando-Sanford, Birmingham and Mobile, and Birmingham and Raleigh-Durham have also been postponed by the airline. The flights to Raleigh-Durham were scheduled to commence on April 27 but have since been postponed to June 27. In mid-April, the carrier also suspended flights between its Austin hub and Amarillo with the city’s director of aviation stating the airline plans to re-start the route in early June. In January, AirlineGeeks flew with Via Airlines on its Austin to Amarillo flight.


https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/05/11/via ... -shortage/

Supposedly due to the pilot shortage... not exactly sure what to think of this.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 6:20 pm

No aircraft in the air right now.

They've done this once before and came back (although not reliable).

The BHM focus city was such a stupid idea. They were making AUS/SFB work operationally (who knows if they were actually making money on any of it). BHM/PIT/RDU spread their crew out so thin.

They honestly might have had a chance if they just chose one focus city and stuck with it for more than like 2 months.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Woefully mismanaged.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 6:37 pm

This airline needs a huge network shakeup & different planes.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 8:02 pm

Another airline trying to make money flying small jets..
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 8:02 pm

drdisque wrote:
No aircraft in the air right now.

They've done this once before and came back (although not reliable).

The BHM focus city was such a stupid idea. They were making AUS/SFB work operationally (who knows if they were actually making money on any of it). BHM/PIT/RDU spread their crew out so thin.

They honestly might have had a chance if they just chose one focus city and stuck with it for more than like 2 months.


Trying to pull off a LCC with 50 seat jets is a horrible idea. They should have stuck with EAS routes. Northeastern Cape Air cities would much rather have Via’s jet service.
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 8:05 pm

The owners are SUPER cheap. Pilots checks have been withheld for weeks, invoices for airport charges go unpaid, fuel charges bounce.

The owner is a former Israeli fighter pilot and believes he's really hot sh1t and can do no wrong. Doesn't listen to anybody.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 8:18 pm

sunking737 wrote:
Another airline trying to make money flying small jets..

Another airline??? You mean other airlines have tried this -- and failed??? Like who??? ;) ;) ;)
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 8:27 pm

steeler83 wrote:
sunking737 wrote:
Another airline trying to make money flying small jets..

Another airline??? You mean other airlines have tried this -- and failed??? Like who??? ;) ;) ;)


Haha, someone should forward them the history of Independence Air and Express Jet.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:12 pm

nws2002 wrote:
steeler83 wrote:
sunking737 wrote:
Another airline trying to make money flying small jets..

Another airline??? You mean other airlines have tried this -- and failed??? Like who??? ;) ;) ;)


Haha, someone should forward them the history of Independence Air and Express Jet.

OneJet!!!
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:19 pm

How is this airline still in business and how much longer will it last?
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:33 pm

drdisque wrote:
No aircraft in the air right now.

They've done this once before and came back (although not reliable).

The BHM focus city was such a stupid idea. They were making AUS/SFB work operationally (who knows if they were actually making money on any of it). BHM/PIT/RDU spread their crew out so thin.

They honestly might have had a chance if they just chose one focus city and stuck with it for more than like 2 months.


Def wouldn’t say AUS works operationally. I’d be surprised if 75% of their flights operate daily.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm

Multiple airports petitioned DOT to remove them from EAS routes, SHD and LWB to name two, as a result of unreliable service and other chronic operational issues. So not sure sticking to that strategy was an option.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:37 pm

Gulfstream500 wrote:
nws2002 wrote:
steeler83 wrote:
Another airline??? You mean other airlines have tried this -- and failed??? Like who??? ;) ;) ;)


Haha, someone should forward them the history of Independence Air and Express Jet.

OneJet!!!


Qantas
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:37 pm

I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:59 pm

Gulfstream500 wrote:
nws2002 wrote:
steeler83 wrote:
Another airline??? You mean other airlines have tried this -- and failed??? Like who??? ;) ;) ;)


Haha, someone should forward them the history of Independence Air and Express Jet.

OneJet!!!


California Pacific
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 9:59 pm

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I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.


BINGO!!! and if they think anyone is actually going to stick around with no pay then they may have a screw loose!
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 10:56 pm

SierraPacific wrote:
I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.

Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Tue May 14, 2019 11:08 pm

PlanesNTrains wrote:
Gulfstream500 wrote:
nws2002 wrote:

Haha, someone should forward them the history of Independence Air and Express Jet.

OneJet!!!


California Pacific


Best way to fly a regional airline is to just operate for a big airline. At least you’ve got some financial security. Even with Via’s small fleet of 12, you can do it. (Air Wisconsin operated about 10 for UAX before becoming exclusively a UAX carrier).

It’s boring, but it makes money.
 
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Tue May 14, 2019 11:31 pm

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Even with Via’s small fleet of 12, you can do it. (Air Wisconsin operated about 10 for UAX before becoming exclusively a UAX carrier).



Twelve? How about three, and one of those three hasn't flown in a month.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 12:06 am

Gulfstream500 wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:
Gulfstream500 wrote:
OneJet!!!


California Pacific


Best way to fly a regional airline is to just operate for a big airline. At least you’ve got some financial security. Even with Via’s small fleet of 12, you can do it. (Air Wisconsin operated about 10 for UAX before becoming exclusively a UAX carrier).

It’s boring, but it makes money.



The problem is that the entire idea is to serve unserved or lesser served markets. Providing feed to a hub is already covered - providing unique city-pairs or airport alternatives seems to be the goal.

I don’t see a need for another regional feeder to the majors unless they are so low cost that the majors are willing to accept some risk. At that point, why bother? Of course, based on the results of these one-off independents, there’s probably no point regardless.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 12:37 am

32andBelow wrote:
SierraPacific wrote:
I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.

Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.


Uh. I beg to differ. Mokulele Airlines has NEVER had to cancel a flight due to lack of crew** (except for the super rare exceptions of sick calls and they can't reposition someone in time). And they were the first Caravan operator to require *2 pilots*... And they operate 110 flights a day, so no small operation at all.

We used to have HUNDREDS of qualified pilots waiting in the pool to get hired. And many actually flow over to captain rather than jump ship once they hit 1500 hours. MW isn't known for high pay either. But, treat your staff right, they treat you right.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 1:12 am

MO11 wrote:
Gulfstream500 wrote:
Even with Via’s small fleet of 12, you can do it. (Air Wisconsin operated about 10 for UAX before becoming exclusively a UAX carrier).



Twelve? How about three, and one of those three hasn't flown in a month.


Tends to happen when you pull from Wikipedia.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 1:21 am

Update on fleet:

N802HK: grounded at SFB for 6 months. (Probably left fleet)
N838HK: grounded at SFB for 11 months. (Most definitely left fleet)
N841HK: has not left the ground in 2 days; in AUS
N824HK: has not left the ground in a day; in SFB
N825HK: grounded at TUL for 4 weeks

That’s all according to airfleets.net and flightaware.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 1:25 am

Would they make money flying packages for UPS/FEDEX/AMAZON?? Point to point hot shot cargo??
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 1:44 am

Gulfstream500 wrote:
Update on fleet:


Wow, I'm glad I was able to shoot all of these at CLT during their "good times", along with a couple of their EMB-120s.
 
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32andBelow wrote:
SierraPacific wrote:
I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.

Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.


Replace small with LOW PAID.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 6:02 am

Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
SierraPacific wrote:
I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.

Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.


Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 6:05 am

32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.


Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days


He isn't referencing regionals which are not small airlines anymore. He is referencing Part 135 carriers that pay 12 bucks an hour still and have no QOL since those are the only places that have any semblance of a pilot shortage

Via was one of these suspect quasi 121 and 135 at the same time operations
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 6:27 am

rajincajun01 wrote:
drdisque wrote:
No aircraft in the air right now.

They've done this once before and came back (although not reliable).

The BHM focus city was such a stupid idea. They were making AUS/SFB work operationally (who knows if they were actually making money on any of it). BHM/PIT/RDU spread their crew out so thin.

They honestly might have had a chance if they just chose one focus city and stuck with it for more than like 2 months.


Def wouldn’t say AUS works operationally. I’d be surprised if 75% of their flights operate daily.

Spreading planes out like that can be an operational nightmare. Maint issues and call offs are going to create downline delays and Xcls, just because of the lack of support. A fatigue call would be an instacancel, just because of the time involved with deadheading a replacement.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 6:31 am

PlanesNTrains wrote:
Gulfstream500 wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:

California Pacific


Best way to fly a regional airline is to just operate for a big airline. At least you’ve got some financial security. Even with Via’s small fleet of 12, you can do it. (Air Wisconsin operated about 10 for UAX before becoming exclusively a UAX carrier).

It’s boring, but it makes money.



The problem is that the entire idea is to serve unserved or lesser served markets. Providing feed to a hub is already covered - providing unique city-pairs or airport alternatives seems to be the goal.

I don’t see a need for another regional feeder to the majors unless they are so low cost that the majors are willing to accept some risk. At that point, why bother? Of course, based on the results of these one-off independents, there’s probably no point regardless.

The majors are largely scoped out with regional feed, as it is. There is money to be made flying RJ’s with a mix of schedule and charter, especially charter, but it takes skill and luck.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 12:02 pm

Posted in honor of the passing of Tim Conway, and the dozens of small carriers like VIA, over the years.
https://youtu.be/lSaJptMulbU
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 12:38 pm

SierraPacific wrote:
I love how management throws out pilot shortage as the excuse for bad management. I personally have never seen an airline have an honest to god pilot shortage but rather management creating an environment nobody wants to work in.


:checkmark:

There are no pilot shortages. There are only companies who refuse to pay sufficiently to attract enough pilots. It's why it's called a job market.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 1:16 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.


Endeavor and Republic, two of the better paying regional airlines, have all of their classes filled through fall.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 1:28 pm

Gulfstream500 wrote:
Update on fleet:

N802HK: grounded at SFB for 6 months. (Probably left fleet)
N838HK: grounded at SFB for 11 months. (Most definitely left fleet)
N841HK: has not left the ground in 2 days; in AUS
N824HK: has not left the ground in a day; in SFB
N825HK: grounded at TUL for 4 weeks

That’s all according to airfleets.net and flightaware.


All former Trans States aircraft? Interesting!
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 1:33 pm

Moose135 wrote:
Gulfstream500 wrote:
Update on fleet:


Wow, I'm glad I was able to shoot all of these at CLT during their "good times", along with a couple of their EMB-120s.


I had thought when they were in CLT it was the biggest mistake to compete against AA out of CLT. The local market isn't that big to the destinations they were flying to. I would have liked to see them try Concord &/or Monroe to Ashville, Hilton Head, Myrtle, Wilmington, Charleston. Basically leisure destinations that locals go to but avoid the congestion of CLT and make it convienent for locals to use and get to the place quicker than driving. Make arrangements with local governments in those cities to provide a bus service to pick up pax. Think about a bus picking you and your golf clubs up in HHI to you directly to the course or hotel. Although Uber/Lyft could do this too. Trying to compete out of major airports against major carriers just never seemed like a winning proposition.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 1:43 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Every single small airline is having an honest to god pilot shortage rn.


Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 2:12 pm

SierraPacific wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days


He isn't referencing regionals which are not small airlines anymore. He is referencing Part 135 carriers that pay 12 bucks an hour still and have no QOL since those are the only places that have any semblance of a pilot shortage

Via was one of these suspect quasi 121 and 135 at the same time operations

How was Via a 135? Didn’t their smallest plane seat 30?
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 2:15 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.

Even a RAVN which flies shitty dash 8s pays 60 an hour starting with a 15k bonus and they are severely understaffed. These guys are raising pay every year and every year they have less pilots. All these regionals are getting gutted by major airlines and cargo airlines like atlas at a rate that is higher than they can find candidates.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 2:25 pm

32andBelow wrote:
SierraPacific wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days


He isn't referencing regionals which are not small airlines anymore. He is referencing Part 135 carriers that pay 12 bucks an hour still and have no QOL since those are the only places that have any semblance of a pilot shortage

Via was one of these suspect quasi 121 and 135 at the same time operations

How was Via a 135? Didn’t their smallest plane seat 30?


SRY operated their charter flights Part 135 and they had other aircraft on their Part 135 cert. However, I don't think they'd been doing that many charter flights lately. They still used the Charter Air Transport name for those flights (I have no clue if this part of the business is still operating) - http://www.charterairtransport.com/
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 4:29 pm

32andBelow wrote:
SierraPacific wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days


He isn't referencing regionals which are not small airlines anymore. He is referencing Part 135 carriers that pay 12 bucks an hour still and have no QOL since those are the only places that have any semblance of a pilot shortage

Via was one of these suspect quasi 121 and 135 at the same time operations

How was Via a 135? Didn’t their smallest plane seat 30?


Via had two FAA certiicates. Via Airways was the Brasilia operation, which operated under FAR 135. Its flying was mainly "public charters", whether casino charters or EAS. Via Airlines is the EMB-145 operation, which is FAR 121.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 4:38 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.

Even a RAVN which flies shitty dash 8s pays 60 an hour starting with a 15k bonus and they are severely understaffed. These guys are raising pay every year and every year they have less pilots. All these regionals are getting gutted by major airlines and cargo airlines like atlas at a rate that is higher than they can find candidates.



Ravn is barely a regional. Even you admit the Dash-8's suck.

Most regionals have pay rates in the $30-$45/hour range. That's a starting salary of $30,000-$45,000 a year BEST CASE. (pilots can only fly 1,000 block hours a year).

For a profession whose certifications take years and close to a quarter of a million dollars, I don't know how you can view that as a logical pay rate.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 4:55 pm

12:50 update:

One plane has operated in the past two days:

N841HK, AUS-DEN (via 841). Probably a charter.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N841HK

I don’t see scheduled flights for any planes.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 5:49 pm

so no more Embraer 120s for them??
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 5:51 pm

usxguy wrote:
so no more Embraer 120s for them??


Nope. At the rate we’re going, they won’t have ERJ145s either!
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Wed May 15, 2019 8:00 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.


I’m a regional captain on the 175 and I make six figures. You seem to be the uninformed one.
 
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Wed May 15, 2019 9:11 pm

KCaviator wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.


I’m a regional captain on the 175 and I make six figures. You seem to be the uninformed one.


Average pay at OO is 93k/year.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Thu May 16, 2019 4:02 am

Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:

Replace small with LOW PAID.

Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.


That's not remotely true. At my regional, upgrades are around 2 years right now. A captain on year 3 pay will be making in excess of $90/hr, and it will be over $95/hr on Jan 1. The top of our pay scale is like $150/hr.

You definitely don't seem to understand the difference between a block hour and a credit hour. I'm deadheading back to base on Friday morning. I'm getting paid 4.2 hours for that, and not blocking anything. In fact, I'm going to just go home instead of back to base.

It's not at all uncommon for people to credit 90+ hours a month, but perhaps only actually block 50-60.

As a matter of fact, I expect to make more than 65K as a first year FO, between salary, per diem, and bonuses.

Your information seems to be about 5 years old.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Thu May 16, 2019 4:29 am

Longhornmaniac wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Dude drop this already. Regional pilots are no longer low paid. They start at like 60k with bonuses and your a captain making 6 figures in 12 months these days



Captains don't make 6 figures in 12 months. More like 65k.

You're seriously uninformed in you think rj captains make 6 figures.


That's not remotely true. At my regional, upgrades are around 2 years right now. A captain on year 3 pay will be making in excess of $90/hr, and it will be over $95/hr on Jan 1. The top of our pay scale is like $150/hr.

You definitely don't seem to understand the difference between a block hour and a credit hour. I'm deadheading back to base on Friday morning. I'm getting paid 4.2 hours for that, and not blocking anything. In fact, I'm going to just go home instead of back to base.

It's not at all uncommon for people to credit 90+ hours a month, but perhaps only actually block 50-60.

As a matter of fact, I expect to make more than 65K as a first year FO, between salary, per diem, and bonuses.

Your information seems to be about 5 years old.

What regional tops out at $150/hr? Looking at the top regional pay scales I don’t see it.
 
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Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Thu May 16, 2019 4:32 am

This was the airline that flew passengers to the wrong city and then refused to get them to their destination or give them a refund. I knew that with such blatant horrible management, it wouldn't last. Good riddance, Via Air.

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