L1011dal
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DL Future at NRT / DOT Tentatively HND - SEA/PDX/ATL/DTW/HNL

Fri May 17, 2019 2:45 am

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/delt ... nance.html

Under the proposal announced on Thursday, Delta would receive new slots for flights between Haneda and Seattle, Detroit, Atlanta, Portland and Honolulu.

What happens to NRT to SIN and MNL long term? Does DL need DOT authorization to fly beyound Tokyo? Can SIN and MNL be moved to HND?
 
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Re: DL Future at NRT / DOT Tentatively HND - SEA/PDX/ATL/DTW/HNL

Fri May 17, 2019 2:52 am

Great news for DL! Without additional slots, don't think DL can operate HND-SIN/MNL. Either they stay at NRT or they go (like HKG) :(
 
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Re: DL Future at NRT / DOT Tentatively HND - SEA/PDX/ATL/DTW/HNL

Fri May 17, 2019 3:07 am

4 Potential Options:

1- DL flies MNL/SIN nonstop from either LAX, SEA, or DTW. (Not sure how likely that is.)

2- DL flies SIN/MNL from KIX/NGO as onward tags to DL’s existing flights between DTW/SEA and KIX/NGO. (This would require enough Japanese point of sale in KIX/NGO to make it profitable).

3- DL flies them from ICN. (Technically legal to do, but KE would not be too happy about it). Probably routing pax on KE metal is better politically and financially.

4- DL drops MNL/SIN with NRT altogether.
 
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Re: DL Future at NRT / DOT Tentatively HND - SEA/PDX/ATL/DTW/HNL

Fri May 17, 2019 3:13 am

L1011dal wrote:
What happens to NRT to SIN and MNL long term? Does DL need DOT authorization to fly beyound Tokyo? Can SIN and MNL be moved to HND?


I'd say it's a near certainty that DL will close NRT as a station. I'm not sure how flexible DL's Japan 5th freedom rights are, but perhaps they'd be able to move NRT-MNL to a KIX-MNL tag (SEA-KIX would likely have to become year-round in order for that to work) or to bring back the NGO-MNL tag (a downside of that is that a lot of the Philippines-bound traffic is probably originating from the West Coast)...

Otherwise, it's possible DL would try a nonstop SEA-MNL or LAX-MNL service (LAX-MNL would be doable with a 359; not sure if SEA-MNL would be within the range of a 339, but if it's not I'd say that route's a no go as a 777/359 is probably too big for that market).

I think a nonstop U.S.-SIN flight on DL is quite unlikely. If HKG didn't work from SEA, a SEA-SIN nonstop would definitely be an uphill battle. LAX-SIN probably has the traffic to support a nonstop, but DL has a very limited fleet of ULH aircraft (10 777-200LRs), so the upside of that route would need to outweigh the profit potential of the current 77L routes, and I'm not sure it does.
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Re: DL Future at NRT / DOT Tentatively HND - SEA/PDX/ATL/DTW/HNL

Fri May 17, 2019 3:17 am

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