hollywoodcory
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WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Sun May 19, 2019 10:12 pm

In a schedule update today (May 19/19), WestJet has added Boeing 787-9 service on YYC-OGG & YYZ-LGW, as well as increased its winter plans for YYC-LGW

New schedules:
Calgary - Kahului (From 31OCT19)
WS1858 YYC 11:00 - 13:27 OGG 789 46
WS1857 OGG 22:30 - 07:27+1 YYC 789 46
Schedule is odd with plane sitting 9 hours at OGG. Maybe YYZ-OGG is coming as well?

Toronto-London (From 23OCT19)
WS003 YYZ 20:40 - 09:00+1 LGW 789 Daily
WS004 LGW 10:45 - 15:22 YYZ 789 Daily

Calgary-London (From 27OCT19)
WS001 YYC 19:40 - 10:20+1 LGW 789 1357
WS002 LGW 11:50 - 14:31 YYC 789 1246
Previously only operated 3x weekly in the winter on days: 257 outbound and 136 inbound.

Additional winter changes on today's schedule update included: YYC-PDX going year-round, YYC-HNL / YEG-OGG switching to 7M8 3x weekly.
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Sun May 19, 2019 10:28 pm

The OGG schedule is pretty typical for longer mainland-OGG flights, actually. DFW/PHX/ORD-OGG all run on similar schedules as do lots of inland-HNL flights.
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 2:42 am

Great news about LGW-YYZ!! Wish WestJet continued success!
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 5:54 am

hollywoodcory wrote:
In a schedule update today (May 19/19), WestJet has added Boeing 787-9 service on YYC-OGG & YYZ-LGW, as well as increased its winter plans for YYC-LGW

New schedules:
Calgary - Kahului (From 31OCT19)
WS1858 YYC 11:00 - 13:27 OGG 789 46
WS1857 OGG 22:30 - 07:27+1 YYC 789 46
Schedule is odd with plane sitting 9 hours at OGG. Maybe YYZ-OGG is coming as well?

Toronto-London (From 23OCT19)
WS003 YYZ 20:40 - 09:00+1 LGW 789 Daily
WS004 LGW 10:45 - 15:22 YYZ 789 Daily

Calgary-London (From 27OCT19)
WS001 YYC 19:40 - 10:20+1 LGW 789 1357
WS002 LGW 11:50 - 14:31 YYC 789 1246
Previously only operated 3x weekly in the winter on days: 257 outbound and 136 inbound.

Additional winter changes on today's schedule update included: YYC-PDX going year-round, YYC-HNL / YEG-OGG switching to 7M8 3x weekly.


The MAX is also operating 3 or 4 times a week YYC-OGG with the long sit in OGG, day time flights over, redeye home.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 6:26 am

Why would WS put such a premium aircraft on YYC-OGG? This is a leisure low-yield route, seems a waste of their super-premium new business cabin.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 6:30 am

ACCS300 wrote:
Why would WS put such a premium aircraft on YYC-OGG? This is a leisure low-yield route, seems a waste of their super-premium new business cabin.


WestJet hedging their bets that the Max won’t be back in service in time for Winter 2019?
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 11:41 am

hollywoodcory wrote:
In a schedule update today (May 19/19), WestJet has added Boeing 787-9 service on YYC-OGG & YYZ-LGW, as well as increased its winter plans for YYC-LGW

New schedules:
Calgary - Kahului (From 31OCT19)
WS1858 YYC 11:00 - 13:27 OGG 789 46
WS1857 OGG 22:30 - 07:27+1 YYC 789 46
Schedule is odd with plane sitting 9 hours at OGG. Maybe YYZ-OGG is coming as well?


If they don't time the connections (a quick turn would put it back in YYC at midnight), then the flight needs to rely on YYC O&D. Even the ORD/DFW/IAD/EWR/ATL-HNL flights don't rely on O&D.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 1:17 pm

ACCS300 wrote:
Why would WS put such a premium aircraft on YYC-OGG? This is a leisure low-yield route, seems a waste of their super-premium new business cabin.


‘cause they’re using it 4 days a week to LGW, leaving 2 days a week for something that fits that flying and 1 day a week for line my aintenance. WS are encountering the AC premium widebody winter syndrome that Jimbo737 has pointed out. Ironically AC are starting to counter this with more winter Southern Hemisphere flying that is reflecting in their positive Q1 results.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 2:17 pm

MartyMcFlyYYC wrote:
ACCS300 wrote:
Why would WS put such a premium aircraft on YYC-OGG? This is a leisure low-yield route, seems a waste of their super-premium new business cabin.


WestJet hedging their bets that the Max won’t be back in service in time for Winter 2019?


The MAXs are planned on YYC-OGG as well, 3-4x a week. Also on YYC-HNL and YEG-OGG. The MAX will be flying by Aug.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 2:30 pm

Whiteguy wrote:
MartyMcFlyYYC wrote:
ACCS300 wrote:
Why would WS put such a premium aircraft on YYC-OGG? This is a leisure low-yield route, seems a waste of their super-premium new business cabin.


WestJet hedging their bets that the Max won’t be back in service in time for Winter 2019?


The MAXs are planned on YYC-OGG as well, 3-4x a week. Also on YYC-HNL and YEG-OGG. The MAX will be flying by Aug.


Can you give me a source re: MAX flying by August in Canada? Heard nothing of that. Thanks.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 3:47 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
In a schedule update today (May 19/19), WestJet has added Boeing 787-9 service on YYC-OGG & YYZ-LGW, as well as increased its winter plans for YYC-LGW

New schedules:
Calgary - Kahului (From 31OCT19)
WS1858 YYC 11:00 - 13:27 OGG 789 46
WS1857 OGG 22:30 - 07:27+1 YYC 789 46
Schedule is odd with plane sitting 9 hours at OGG. Maybe YYZ-OGG is coming as well?


If they don't time the connections (a quick turn would put it back in YYC at midnight), then the flight needs to rely on YYC O&D. Even the ORD/DFW/IAD/EWR/ATL-HNL flights don't rely on O&D.


This past winter, the outbound departed YYC around 4pm with a 7/8pm arrival in Maui. I think they also had a morning YYC departure and evening return as well?

Also further looking at the schedule YYC-OGG actually increases to 5x weekly in March on the 787.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 5:19 pm

hollywoodcory wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
hollywoodcory wrote:
In a schedule update today (May 19/19), WestJet has added Boeing 787-9 service on YYC-OGG & YYZ-LGW, as well as increased its winter plans for YYC-LGW

New schedules:
Calgary - Kahului (From 31OCT19)
WS1858 YYC 11:00 - 13:27 OGG 789 46
WS1857 OGG 22:30 - 07:27+1 YYC 789 46
Schedule is odd with plane sitting 9 hours at OGG. Maybe YYZ-OGG is coming as well?


If they don't time the connections (a quick turn would put it back in YYC at midnight), then the flight needs to rely on YYC O&D. Even the ORD/DFW/IAD/EWR/ATL-HNL flights don't rely on O&D.


This past winter, the outbound departed YYC around 4pm with a 7/8pm arrival in Maui. I think they also had a morning YYC departure and evening return as well?

Also further looking at the schedule YYC-OGG actually increases to 5x weekly in March on the 787.


The MAX operated the 1630 departure to OGG 4x a week, while the B76W was the 0730 departure 2 or 3x a week.

Looks like the B789 is 5x a week starting mid March until end of April, over the spring break season.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 5:24 pm

ACCS300 wrote:
Whiteguy wrote:
MartyMcFlyYYC wrote:

WestJet hedging their bets that the Max won’t be back in service in time for Winter 2019?


The MAXs are planned on YYC-OGG as well, 3-4x a week. Also on YYC-HNL and YEG-OGG. The MAX will be flying by Aug.


Can you give me a source re: MAX flying by August in Canada? Heard nothing of that. Thanks.


No definite source, just experience from what I’ve seen, or been told. The software fix is being presented this week and then it’s up to 6 weeks to certify it, if they do. Probably late Aug at the latest to have them flying.

Again that’s just my opinion. Winter sked doesn’t start until Nov, my point was they’d be flying by then and Westjet isn’t hedging any bets.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 5:26 pm

What happens to the 767s this winter? All it’s flying seems to be taken by the 787.
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 5:36 pm

Jayce wrote:
What happens to the 767s this winter? All it’s flying seems to be taken by the 787.


Not sure. All I can find so far is YYC-YYZ turns. I think you’ll hear some info this week or next regarding some route changes.
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 6:14 pm

Jayce wrote:
What happens to the 767s this winter? All it’s flying seems to be taken by the 787.


YYC/YYZ-CUN/PUJ/HAV/MBJ turns perhaps...
 
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Re: WS adds 787 service on YYC-OGG/YYZ-LGW

Mon May 20, 2019 6:46 pm

LightChop2Chop wrote:
Jayce wrote:
What happens to the 767s this winter? All it’s flying seems to be taken by the 787.


YYC/YYZ-CUN/PUJ/HAV/MBJ turns perhaps...


That would make sense. I'm not sure how long they planned to keep them, but with the Max out of service they won't be going anywhere soon.

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