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Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:50 pm
by apodino
I saw the video. No excuse for how the managers there are behaving.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:55 pm
by Boof02671
apodino wrote:
I saw the video. No excuse for how the managers there are behaving.

And AA HR did nothing to the supervisor.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:28 pm
by Boof02671
The Association turning up the heat.

https://atd142.org/wp-content/uploads/2 ... ut-PDF.pdf

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:30 pm
by Boof02671
Company going forward with the lawsuit.

https://www.iamdl142.org/american-airli ... employees/

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:30 pm
by Boof02671

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:57 am
by N983AN
Yeah like HDQ is scared of a cocky overzealous public sector MTA track worker that repeatedly fumbled large numbers and believes Michigan is an Ivy League institution.

The IAM has shown repeatedly it talks tough and issues fiery press press releases but ultimately cowers so long as their leaders get to maintain their cushy gigs and the organization continues to draw dues.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:46 pm
by Boof02671
Company filed for a TRO and it was granted.

https://www.goiam.org/news/territories/ ... on-notice/

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:31 am
by Antarius
Boof02671 wrote:
Company filed for a TRO and it was granted.

https://www.goiam.org/news/territories/ ... on-notice/


Wonder why.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:50 am
by nc3rd
Union has got to take some blame for this since they couldnt get their act together and agree to 1 union representing the airline as a whole. Theyve had 5 years+.Im not surprised at all at the TRO since there has been a noticeable uptick in maintenance will equates to a job action.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:53 am
by Boof02671
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:32 pm
by Wacker1000
N983AN wrote:
so long as their leaders get to maintain their cushy gigs and the organization continues to draw dues.


TWU is playing the same game. As long as they keep everyone divided, leaders get to keep their jobs and pay. Just keep feeding the BS, demand everything and refuse to budge on anything - they'll be good for at least another decade or two.


Boof02671 wrote:
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.


And while working safe right?

Its just nice to see no one learned anything from the HP/US pilot saga of a decade ago. If you can't get your act together, the company will gladly pay less and not lose a minute of sleep.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:03 pm
by Boof02671
Apples to Oranges, their’s was a seniority issue, the AA/US seniority has already been agreed upon, it was dovetail. This is a contractual dispute.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:22 pm
by ABEguy
So now that AA has this order, can someone explain to me what that means? Does that give them something new? If a mechanic is continuing to “be safe”, what changes with this order?

AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:35 pm
by chepos
It would behoove the IAM/TWU get this matter sorted before the next economic downturn hits. Something much worse than whats on offer may be forced upon if they don’t get it together.


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Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:41 pm
by Boof02671
An offer as never been forced in the airlines, only Congress has that power, and POTUS would have to sign it. With a Democratic controlled House, that won’t happen.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:48 pm
by N983AN
Wacker1000 wrote:
N983AN wrote:
so long as their leaders get to maintain their cushy gigs and the organization continues to draw dues.


TWU is playing the same game. As long as they keep everyone divided, leaders get to keep their jobs and pay. Just keep feeding the BS, demand everything and refuse to budge on anything - they'll be good for at least another decade or two.


Boof02671 wrote:
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.


And while working safe right?

Its just nice to see no one learned anything from the HP/US pilot saga of a decade ago. If you can't get your act together, the company will gladly pay less and not lose a minute of sleep.


Organized labor in the airline industry will be in the fetal position once changes to the RLA eliminate the closed shop requirement. The TWU is a Totally Worthless Union, the IAM is even worse, and an unelected, undemocratic, unaccountable concoction “TWU-IAM Association” devised to preserve dues and cushy officer positions takes the cake for the worst of all.

The IAM has been the master of concessionary agreements that benefit the Union through contracting out work that is later awarded to low wage entities they also represent like McGee (AS) and UGE (United).

The IAM imposed the mess of TWA (costly arbitration, bitterness, complicated vacation bidding) on nAAtives and expected full occupational seniority after their OWN union sold them out and waived successorship LPPs. Why was the TWU be expected to honor something to the detriment of nAAtives the IAM freely signed away for their long standing members at TWA?

Very few fleet and maintenance personnel at AA would electively pay dues or “agency fees” if it wasn’t compulsory. The unions know this and that’s why they’re terrified of right to work and other reforms that hold them accountable and empower workers.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:05 pm
by airlineguy1234
Boof02671 wrote:
I’m not militant. Im a realist. We lost so much in the two chapter 11s.
AA is making billions, Doug Parker “ We will never lose money again”. Yet they are asking us for concessions.

Doug made $19 million last year, they’ve spent $14 billion over the past several years on stock buybacks, yet the stock is in the tank and they haven’t paid down much debt.

You are on the outside looking on, you didn’t live what LUS and LAA have been through.

For example to put all the Association members on the better and lower cost insurance would cost AA $39 million a year. Yet they have spent $14 billion on buybacks.

Realist, not militant. We gave up plenty to save the company, time for returns.


All this crap going on reminds me of the problems at United during their merger. Delta handled their merger much better than the others did. They treat their employees better in the first place they don’t unionize.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:33 pm
by Boof02671
N983AN wrote:
Wacker1000 wrote:
N983AN wrote:
so long as their leaders get to maintain their cushy gigs and the organization continues to draw dues.


TWU is playing the same game. As long as they keep everyone divided, leaders get to keep their jobs and pay. Just keep feeding the BS, demand everything and refuse to budge on anything - they'll be good for at least another decade or two.


Boof02671 wrote:
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.


And while working safe right?

Its just nice to see no one learned anything from the HP/US pilot saga of a decade ago. If you can't get your act together, the company will gladly pay less and not lose a minute of sleep.


Organized labor in the airline industry will be in the fetal position once changes to the RLA eliminate the closed shop requirement. The TWU is a Totally Worthless Union, the IAM is even worse, and an unelected, undemocratic, unaccountable concoction “TWU-IAM Association” devised to preserve dues and cushy officer positions takes the cake for the worst of all.

The IAM has been the master of concessionary agreements that benefit the Union through contracting out work that is later awarded to low wage entities they also represent like McGee (AS) and UGE (United).

The IAM imposed the mess of TWA (costly arbitration, bitterness, complicated vacation bidding) on nAAtives and expected full occupational seniority after their OWN union sold them out and waived successorship LPPs. Why was the TWU be expected to honor something to the detriment of nAAtives the IAM freely signed away for their long standing members at TWA?

Very few fleet and maintenance personnel at AA would electively pay dues or “agency fees” if it wasn’t compulsory. The unions know this and that’s why they’re terrified of right to work and other reforms that hold them accountable and empower workers.

That would be the TWU who owns the invention of the B and C scale and took concessions at AAin 2003 without being in bankruptcy.

Wrong the IAM didn’t impose anything at AA with the TW acquisition, all unions at TW were forced to give up their LPPs and Kasher decided seniority which screwed the TW employees and AA and the TWU agreed on vacation etc.

Stop with the blatant misinformation.

And the AS situation was an arbitration settlement and UA better to outsource to an in-house unionized workforce than a vendor and it gave mainline ramp protections, which you wouldn’t post as it doesn’t fit your narrative.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:33 pm
by Boof02671
airlineguy1234 wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
I’m not militant. Im a realist. We lost so much in the two chapter 11s.
AA is making billions, Doug Parker “ We will never lose money again”. Yet they are asking us for concessions.

Doug made $19 million last year, they’ve spent $14 billion over the past several years on stock buybacks, yet the stock is in the tank and they haven’t paid down much debt.

You are on the outside looking on, you didn’t live what LUS and LAA have been through.

For example to put all the Association members on the better and lower cost insurance would cost AA $39 million a year. Yet they have spent $14 billion on buybacks.

Realist, not militant. We gave up plenty to save the company, time for returns.


All this crap going on reminds me of the problems at United during their merger. Delta handled their merger much better than the others did. They treat their employees better in the first place they don’t unionize.

Delta does no such thing, that’s why ramp and flight attendants are trying to unionize.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:10 am
by B757capt
Wonder if the three parties would agree to binding arbitration?

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:28 am
by N983AN
The IAM relinquished the LPPs to protect their own financial interests and have the transaction consummated. Had they fought TWA may have gone belly up which would be better nAAtives and not all that different considering the plight of LLCers that followed. The IAM was okay fighting it to the last day at Eastern. Or TWA could have

They should have honored the process and stepped aside in 2013. LAA has more than 2/3 of the maintenance headcount, but the IAM is desperate as is their loser pension that is proceeding with reduced benefits.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:44 am
by Boof02671
N983AN wrote:
The IAM relinquished the LPPs to protect their own financial interests and have the transaction consummated. Had they fought TWA may have gone belly up which would be better nAAtives and not all that different considering the plight of LLCers that followed. The IAM was okay fighting it to the last day at Eastern. Or TWA could have

They should have honored the process and stepped aside in 2013. LAA has more than 2/3 of the maintenance headcount, but the IAM is desperate as is their loser pension that is proceeding with reduced benefits.

Revisionist history again.

AA made ALL TWA unions give up their LPPs, not just the IAM

The IAM had leins against engines and Ground Equipment protecting and securing the TW employees pension.

Not every IAM Member is in the pension.

The Association is here to stay, get use to it.

And AA agreed to the preferred pension fix so no one at AA or UA will have reduced benefits.

Keep up your misinformation.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:51 am
by N983AN
What you don’t get is no one at LAA wanted TWA, the IAM, USAIR or this stupid association that didn’t get voted on as promised. The IAM is insignificant and once compulsory dues go away the IAM will further it’s downward spiral. Aren’t they trying to organize Uber workers or something?

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:56 am
by Boof02671
Doesn’t matter what you want, you aren’t the CEO nor the BOD.

No one is going to pass a change to the RLA to eliminate closed shops.

Keep posting misinformation and I’ll show you to be false each time.

Keep looking back and you’ll never move forward.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:58 am
by Antarius
Boof02671 wrote:
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.


Again, why would the court bother issuing a TRO if this is simply a function of natural causes?

Admit it, this was BS being masqueraded as valid and it's been called out.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:00 am
by N983AN
Oh really? Both from formerly unorganized sCO UA employees at IAH and EWR:

https://www.nrtw.org/news/united-airlin ... -05232019/

https://www.mackinac.org/RLA

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:01 am
by Boof02671
Antarius wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.


Again, why would the court bother issuing a TRO if this is simply a function of natural causes?

Admit it, this was BS being masqueraded as valid and it's been called out.

There was no hearing, The Association didn’t get a chance to argue the TRO. The company filed a motion and it was granted pending a hearing.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:02 am
by Boof02671
N983AN wrote:
Oh really? Both from formerly unorganized sCO UA employees at IAH and EWR:

https://www.nrtw.org/news/united-airlin ... -05232019/

https://www.mackinac.org/RLA

You quote an anti union web page. The House will never pass a revision.

And Janus applied to only State employees under the NLRA, not the RLA. Read Whirlpool vs Machinists and Beck vs CWA. The Supreme Court ruled they still have to pay for what’s germane to the CBA.

Use an unbiased source.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:12 am
by N983AN
The same was said about Janus, RTW in states like Michigan. It’s only a matter of time. Keep living in denial. I know the IAM has been great for you, but for people actually working at airlines and paying dues they are clearly not delivering.

Why is the transport division run by a TWA guy who hasn’t worked the line in decades? Why isn’t there someone from an active dues paying carrier that currently exists and represents active employees?

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:51 am
by Boof02671
Because the members voted for him.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:27 am
by Antarius
Boof02671 wrote:
Antarius wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Less planes flying more flights equals less ground time to accomplish maintenance.


Again, why would the court bother issuing a TRO if this is simply a function of natural causes?

Admit it, this was BS being masqueraded as valid and it's been called out.

There was no hearing, The Association didn’t get a chance to argue the TRO. The company filed a motion and it was granted pending a hearing.


You know that injunctions arent granted on any and all motions right?

Well, rhetorical question.....you dont get it at all. Put aside the propaganda hat and look at it with some nuance.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:04 am
by N983AN
Boof02671 wrote:
Because the members voted for him.


Just like how LUS IAM and LAA TWU “voted” for this association?

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:58 am
by Boof02671
Antarius wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Antarius wrote:

Again, why would the court bother issuing a TRO if this is simply a function of natural causes?

Admit it, this was BS being masqueraded as valid and it's been called out.

There was no hearing, The Association didn’t get a chance to argue the TRO. The company filed a motion and it was granted pending a hearing.


You know that injunctions arent granted on any and all motions right?

Well, rhetorical question.....you dont get it at all. Put aside the propaganda hat and look at it with some nuance.

It wasn’t an injunction, it was a Temporary Restraining Order. An injunction requires a hearing.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:59 am
by Boof02671
N983AN wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Because the members voted for him.


Just like how LUS IAM and LAA TWU “voted” for this association?

Would you like a Kleenex?

NMB said no vote needed. And crying about accomplished nothing.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:29 pm
by Antarius
Boof02671 wrote:
Antarius wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
There was no hearing, The Association didn’t get a chance to argue the TRO. The company filed a motion and it was granted pending a hearing.


You know that injunctions arent granted on any and all motions right?

Well, rhetorical question.....you dont get it at all. Put aside the propaganda hat and look at it with some nuance.

It wasn’t an injunction, it was a Temporary Restraining Order. An injunction requires a hearing.


Point stands. Courts wouldnt issue a TRO on something ridiculous and clearly merit free.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:41 pm
by Boof02671
Antarius wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Antarius wrote:

You know that injunctions arent granted on any and all motions right?

Well, rhetorical question.....you dont get it at all. Put aside the propaganda hat and look at it with some nuance.

It wasn’t an injunction, it was a Temporary Restraining Order. An injunction requires a hearing.


Point stands. Courts wouldnt issue a TRO on something ridiculous and clearly merit free.

Not true. It’s a rubber stamp, the Association wasn’t able to defend itself, there was no hearing. AA filed a six page motion.

Mediation then a hearing is ordered.


TROs, or temporary restraining orders, are basically stop-gaps between the time you file for an injunction and the first hearing for the injunction. Essentially, they’re pre-trial temporary injunctions. A judge’s decision on a temporary restraining order cannot be appealed.
A significant feature of TROs is that they can be granted ex parte. That means that the individual or business on the receiving end of a TRO does not have to be notified ahead of time that it’s on its way. This is often helpful as it usually ensures that no monkey business can occur before the actual injunction hearing.”

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:53 pm
by bob75013
Antarius wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Antarius wrote:

You know that injunctions arent granted on any and all motions right?

Well, rhetorical question.....you dont get it at all. Put aside the propaganda hat and look at it with some nuance.

It wasn’t an injunction, it was a Temporary Restraining Order. An injunction requires a hearing.


Point stands. Courts wouldnt issue a TRO on something ridiculous and clearly merit free.



Judges issue a TRO when the side seeking the TRO is "likely to succeed" in the formal court proceeding. That is what this judge said in this case..
Thus there would have been no TRO if the judge didn't believe that AA would likely win in court.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:58 pm
by N983AN
Boof02671 wrote:
N983AN wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
Because the members voted for him.


Just like how LUS IAM and LAA TWU “voted” for this association?

Would you like a Kleenex?

NMB said no vote needed. And crying about accomplished nothing.


Then why does this union association maintained website still indicate that a vote would be held? Didn’t union activists and officials indicate circa 2013-2014 a vote would be held? At a minimum they need to update the website:

Q5: Will I have the opportunity to vote on whether or not I am represented by the Association?

A: Yes. Following the completion of the American – US Airways’ merger, the Associations will file representation applications with the National Mediation Board (NMB), a federal agency, which will culminate in three separate elections, one for each of the Mechanic & Related, Fleet Service and Stores classifications. You will vote in the election of the classification in which you work with others from both carriers.


http://www.twu-iam.org/twu-iam-association-qa/

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:20 pm
by Boof02671
N983AN wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
N983AN wrote:

Just like how LUS IAM and LAA TWU “voted” for this association?

Would you like a Kleenex?

NMB said no vote needed. And crying about accomplished nothing.


Then why does this union association maintained website still indicate that a vote would be held? Didn’t union activists and officials indicate circa 2013-2014 a vote would be held? At a minimum they need to update the website:

Q5: Will I have the opportunity to vote on whether or not I am represented by the Association?

A: Yes. Following the completion of the American – US Airways’ merger, the Associations will file representation applications with the National Mediation Board (NMB), a federal agency, which will culminate in three separate elections, one for each of the Mechanic & Related, Fleet Service and Stores classifications. You will vote in the election of the classification in which you work with others from both carriers.


http://www.twu-iam.org/twu-iam-association-qa/

Irrelevant and off topic.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:35 pm
by NWAESC
This thread is wild.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:18 pm
by WkndWanderer
Boof02671 wrote:
Not true. It’s a rubber stamp, the Association wasn’t able to defend itself, there was no hearing. AA filed a six page motion.

Mediation then a hearing is ordered.


The Union certainly gets to defend itself, it's filed 43 pages of briefs and responses refuting AA's claims, defending it's own position, and arguing against a restraining order and injunctive action. They aren't voiceless in the matter, the Judge just thinks that as of now at least that "American is likely to succeed on the merits of its claims that the Union is violating Section 2, First of the RLA."

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:05 pm
by Boof02671
The TRO was granted ex parte.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:53 pm
by bob75013
Boof02671 wrote:
The TRO was granted ex parte.


Makes no difference. The judge said that American would likely prevail in the court proceeding. That's why the TRO was granted.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:08 pm
by Boof02671
I was stating facts

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:22 am
by braniff2hav
I can tell you as a travel manager dealing with cancellations non-weather related over the last two days. I am done with American Airlines. They cannot recover from weather events such as the one at DFW yesterday and today and now DCA today. But then to have these mechanical today at DCA .. I am D.O.N.E. AA is a company that is quiet ill managed and absolutely has no interest in its customer.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:03 pm
by Boof02671

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:43 am
by Boof02671

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:29 am
by anymaninfc
braniff2hav wrote:
I can tell you as a travel manager dealing with cancellations non-weather related over the last two days. I am done with American Airlines. They cannot recover from weather events such as the one at DFW yesterday and today and now DCA today. But then to have these mechanical today at DCA .. I am D.O.N.E. AA is a company that is quiet ill managed and absolutely has no interest in its customer.


Neither ill managed nor uninterested in their customers. Weather recoveries are tough, as are dealing quickly with mechanical problems...particularly when you have a work force under contract negotiations which inspires them to add to the burden of keeping aircraft moving. And yes, you have every right to chose your carriers.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:34 am
by Boof02671
AA in its court filing has even stated they are using planes more increasing wear and tear and less ground time.

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:35 pm
by jetblastdubai
https://apnews.com/7eb99124b7aa4ff9aa03f659eb18fd7c

"FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — American Airlines says mechanics are defying a court order and continuing a work slowdown that is disrupting flights during the busy summer travel season.

The mechanics’ unions say American is at fault. They say the airline walked away from contract talks, leading to low morale which might affect how quickly mechanics perform their work.

A trial is scheduled for Monday in federal district court in Fort Worth on American’s request for a permanent injunction against the Transport Workers Union and the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers."

If the Union's excuse is that since AA walked away from contract talks it might affect how quickly they perform their work, they're going to need OJ Simpson's jury to side with them. Surely they can come up with a better excuse than that.