The E2-190 weighs 35 tons. Thus the lower capacity E2-195 almost certainly weighs more than the A220-300
Please provide a link. As I noted, I estimated. I prefer to refine estimates
I did typo. Mean culpa. 33T per Wikipedia.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_E-Jet_E2_family
I still do not see an issue with A220 weight. I see capabilities. I see an aircraft 7.6T less than the A319. We are arguing over an aircraft that has already reached sustainable economy of scale for fleet maintenance.
I'm a Pratt fam.
I want the E2 to sell. We have other threads for the E2. I think it should have sold better than it has. E.g , approximately two years ago the profit Hunter campaign went into full swing. At some point only sales matter.
What I see is this MTOW increase selling more A220.
An aircraft needs 400+ sales of the base model. Any variation could be the base (A220-300 or A220-100, it doesn't matter, this is economy of scale). I believe the A220 will continue to sell.
The campaign for Paris is Spirit Airways. That would make the A220 year or almost double the E2-190/195 backlog. I believe this MTOW increase is targeted to that specific sales campaign that is yet undecided.
But we have other threads for Paris.
Bombardier has allowed estimates of the A220 model weights out. If the competition is that much better, sell it! I personally want to fly cheap US TCON, so I'm a fan of the plane certain to give me that opportunity. I'll happily fly DL, B6, or Moxy if the schedule, product, and timing meets my needs.
One thing I've learned being on a.net, if my sources aren't telling me about some secret advantage, I should doubt it.
It believe the Bombardier performance was conservative. Take that as rumor or my opinion. I know their engineering wasn't perfect. I incredibly respect Embraer interface documents. They are incredibly well done.
But everyone jumping on a sales feature? I have worked MTOW increase campaigns. I have modeled aircraft performance, modified on customer inputs, to see what the absolute minimum we could do to sells or see if we could cheaply offer enough more to sell to the next customer.
Proof is always in the sales. I've seen that in numerous Pratt products I had to redefine my estimations based on lost sales campaigns.
I note in other threads producing a hundred per year is now survival in commercial aircraft. The A220 is building up to that, but needs to sell 150+ this year to target that level of production. I think they will achieve it at Paris. Perhaps hope is the better word.
There is only one sales campaign I know of that is large enough to tip the scales for either program planned to be decided: Spirit. I do not know which way it will go. But my sources say it is an active campaign. I have no horse in this race. But I will root on the plane optimized for the lights I want to take.
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