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Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements

Tue May 28, 2019 12:26 pm

:arrow: (Feel free to open up an "Paris 2019 Aircraft Orders & Commintments" thread in paralel.)

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Paris Airshow is in two weeks. It seems an important opportunity's for many to play the public, change mindsets. A few possibilities:

Boeing
- Celebration of the Merger with Embraer, what are the plans to revive the E2 line?
- 737 MAX drama, how / what will they communicate after all the feedback.
- 777X progress, first flight, new orders?
- KC-390, is Boeing putting their muscles behind it? A very capable aircraft as C130 replacement..
- The 737-10, how good will it be?

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Airbus
- Announcement the A321XLR, including orders? Who?
- Will AF/KL finally order new NB's?
- A380, will it be in the flight program, static show, news?
- A220, lots going on, low output preventing sales, forecasts?

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- How is the C919 progressing, when is certification / deliveries foreseen?
- ARJ, any updates foreseen?
- Any trade-war developments impacting programs?

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GE / CFM
- Loosing market share to Pratt on Regionals & NB's.
- Will they ever offer engines for Boeing Brasil E2's or A220s.
- Any ideas on a 2025 NMA 797 engine, when?
- What's the status on geared turbo fan research?

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When you are busy at the show, you miss all the news / announcements.
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Tue May 28, 2019 1:30 pm

Will Boeing give an update on the NMA?

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Tue May 28, 2019 1:32 pm

What are the chances that there will be MAX orders during the airshow?
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Tue May 28, 2019 1:41 pm

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Will Boeing give an update on the NMA?

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No doubt. Boeing has been pushing out NMA official launch while maintaining the 2025 EIS. I expect Boeing to use language pushing back EIS, like "around 2025 EIS", "on schedule for 2025 first flight", "strong allignment with engine manaufacturers" or "de-risking the supply chain".

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Tue May 28, 2019 1:44 pm

Probably only an AF order for NB's, I still think KL will order the MAX. It will save them a lot of training for their crew and they aren't in a hurry for new NB's so they can wait out the MAX crises. I believe I recently read something about a new order for Indigo? Maybe we will hear something about this at Paris. I don't think we will hear about any new orders for the MAX, except maybe Ryanair. As BA and LH recently have ordered the 77X I don't expect new European orders for the aircraft, maybe some from the middle-east? Emirates swapping their 787 options?
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 2:08 pm

Overall, I expect a relatively dull show.

I am guessing orders will be way down. On the Boeing side, I can't imagine any orders for the MAX right now #toosoon. On the WB front, NZ just announced a 787 order, and didn't "hold" it for PAS. On NMA, maybe a few details more to keep (the waning) interest up. I do expect a big splash by Airbus on the A321XLR, but doubt any mega-orders. Probably 2-300 frames for the family total. The really big orders have come out of China and I just don't see them in a buying mode right now. The A220 is intriguing and I would love to see more orders, but I think Airbus needs to get the production process ready for prime time before that happens.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 2:15 pm

keesje wrote:
- 777X progress, first flight

That would be great!

keesje wrote:
- A380, will it be in the flight program, static Show

That's a very good and interesting question. Not from the point of view of an aviation enthusiast or plane spotter, but from the point of view of a hobby psychologist
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But seriously, with production ending, wouldn't it be a waste of money?

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- A380, [...] news?

When I read this, I immediately had to think about a scene in the movie "Top Secret":
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Tue May 28, 2019 2:20 pm

I think that in order to capture many orders, the nma should be launched in Paris
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 2:33 pm

No to forget: Mitsubishi’s next MRJ model "the project"

Mitsubishi Aircraft is planning to reveal specific details on the significant changes it will be making to the smaller of its two MRJ regional jets under development during the Paris Air Show next month.

Chief development officer Alex Bellamy stated on 10 May, that the aircraft formally known as the MRJ70 is now dubbed “the concept” and will seat 76 passengers in three-class configurations.


Only re-arranged seatmaps to make 76 seat look good & derated MTOW paperwork would be a deception IMO, lipstick..

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Tue May 28, 2019 2:47 pm

Mitac will surely have an announcement, and I would guess taking a row or two out from the frame length shouldn't be that hard.

At some point maybe Boeing Brazil will announce a new E2 model to be compliant too.

CR929 and Comac 919 I think will wait for a chinese show for further announcements, unless they can pull off the coup of a major western order for any type.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 2:47 pm

Might Airbus announce an update on the A338's certification campaign :?:

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Perhaps Herr Scherer has a few prospective airline customers lined up..... :scratchchin:
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Tue May 28, 2019 3:02 pm

Sales season is fully underway. Airline buyers are already at Paris and the Leasing companies are there in full force.

For myself, the most exciting order is Spirit for either the E2 or A220. If the A220 wins, future sales will be easier. We have a separate thread on a MTOW increase.

The E2 must sell or it is in trouble. The E2-175 has no viable orders. The combined E2-190/195 sales are insufficient. Aircastle has struggled to sell their E2s and until the customer base multiplies, no other leasor will buy and there goes half of sales

Pratt is meeting contract now, so they maintain an exclusive on the A220, E2, and MRJ.

I'm curious as to business jet launched. Gulfstream had a long reign with the G650. They must spoil the Global 7500 by launching a new larger top aircraft. The question is when and what engine (Pearl growth, Passport, or a geared PW800).

Cessna is due to make noise post Hemisphere.

Will Dassault come out with a stretch of the 6X. I would be shocked if not already in work. Again, which engine (see above, but also a possibility of a less ambitious stretch with the PW816 or current Pearl, but TPAC range).

Boeing and Airbus will sell. I'm not expecting an exciting year. The reality is what would be a small sale for the MAX or NEO is huge for the A220 or E2.


keesje wrote:
No to forget: Mitsubishi’s next MRJ model "the project"

Mitsubishi Aircraft is planning to reveal specific details on the significant changes it will be making to the smaller of its two MRJ regional jets under development during the Paris Air Show next month.

Chief development officer Alex Bellamy stated on 10 May, that the aircraft formally known as the MRJ70 is now dubbed “the concept” and will seat 76 passengers in three-class configurations.


Only re-arranged seatmaps to make 76 seat look good & derated MTOW paperwork would be a deception IMO, lipstick..

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I fully expect orders for this new MRJ.

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Tue May 28, 2019 3:03 pm

Maybe news about launching the A220-500 ?
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 3:04 pm

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As BA and LH recently have ordered the 77X I don't expect new European orders for the aircraft, maybe some from the middle-east? Emirates swapping their 787 options?

Emirates never had options, they had an MOU which was non-binding. They have no reason to shift orders around and order something else like they did with Airbus. I don't expect any order action for EK this show.
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Tue May 28, 2019 3:10 pm

EChid wrote:
IWMBH wrote:
As BA and LH recently have ordered the 77X I don't expect new European orders for the aircraft, maybe some from the middle-east? Emirates swapping their 787 options?

Emirates never had options, they had an MOU which was non-binding. They have no reason to shift orders around and order something else like they did with Airbus. I don't expect any order action for EK this show.

EK has made noise about still ordering the 787-10. However, such orders will be held for the Dubai airshow.

Thinking about business jets more, most of what I posted above will wait for that Airshow. :(. At least business jet related.

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Tue May 28, 2019 3:12 pm

EChid wrote:
IWMBH wrote:
As BA and LH recently have ordered the 77X I don't expect new European orders for the aircraft, maybe some from the middle-east? Emirates swapping their 787 options?

Emirates never had options, they had an MOU which was non-binding. They have no reason to shift orders around and order something else like they did with Airbus. I don't expect any order action for EK this show.

Especially with the Dubai air show this November. If Emirates has anything to announce it would be then, not at Paris.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 3:29 pm

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What are the chances that there will be MAX orders during the airshow?


probably not a ton. there's not a lot of reasons a airline would want to publicize buying the max rn. better to wait a few months and let the grounding blowback die down.
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Tue May 28, 2019 3:32 pm

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Aviation737 wrote:
What are the chances that there will be MAX orders during the airshow?


probably not a ton. there's not a lot of reasons a airline would want to publicize buying the max rn. better to wait a few months and let the grounding blowback die down.

Exactly. The only airlines publicizing it are the ones re-negotiating their orders and getting better deals on planes (a la Garuda, VA possibly).
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Tue May 28, 2019 3:34 pm

lightsaber wrote:
EChid wrote:
IWMBH wrote:
As BA and LH recently have ordered the 77X I don't expect new European orders for the aircraft, maybe some from the middle-east? Emirates swapping their 787 options?

Emirates never had options, they had an MOU which was non-binding. They have no reason to shift orders around and order something else like they did with Airbus. I don't expect any order action for EK this show.

EK has made noise about still ordering the 787-10. However, such orders will be held for the Dubai airshow.

Thinking about business jets more, most of what I posted above will wait for that Airshow. :(. At least business jet related.

Lightsaber

I would be a little surprised if they ordered the 787-10, unless they want to signal no intention of taking the 339s (i.e., conversion of sorts) or a change of plans for the 359. That's a fair bit of duplication and complexity within what used to be a simple fleet...but who knows!
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Tue May 28, 2019 4:04 pm

Its almost certain the SAA has signed for some A350's (probably two for now). This will need to be announced soon.
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Tue May 28, 2019 4:05 pm

Never heard of the KC-390 until today. Looks like a mini C-17!
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 4:19 pm

ORDfan101 wrote:
I think that in order to capture many orders, the nma should be launched in Paris

Very doubtful this will happen - IMO they are still trying to close the business case - will they be able to make a sufficient ROI? Don't count on a launch announcement - probably just an update on where they stand at this point.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 4:34 pm

T54A wrote:
Its almost certain the SAA has signed for some A350's (probably two for now). This will need to be announced soon.

:bouncy: That would be one sweet looking plane
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 5:21 pm

Bricktop wrote:
Overall, I expect a relatively dull show.


I agree, too much uncertainty.
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Tue May 28, 2019 5:52 pm

Do we expect some orders from TK ?
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Tue May 28, 2019 5:55 pm

B777X and A220 going to be celebreties of the show...

Delta, United, AA ordering some replacements for the B767 fleet..
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 6:03 pm

Korean and Air France each order 20 777-9 aircraft. They both have A380's and older 77W to replace in their fleets.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 6:29 pm

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B777X and A220 going to be celebreties of the show...

Delta, United, AA ordering some replacements for the B767 fleet..

I would hope for 777X and A220 orders. I don't have any source on the former. For the A220, I know Spirit is shopping and I hear rumors about others, but nothing I consider sound or worth repeating.

I'm not hearing anything E2 related other than Spirit (A220 vs. E2). Anyone hear anything more? Aircastle bis trying, but every quarterly report is a whiff. (Whiff = Missed attempt)

The US3 order to replace 767s... Split. DL will top off A330NEOs. AS ordered 788s, so I think they made their decision. UA is the unknown.

I also expect a trickle of MAX and NEO orders. But MAX only if issues solved.

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Tue May 28, 2019 6:29 pm

What would actually happen:

1. All eyes on MAX problems.
2. A321neo/LR/XLR get the most eyes from Airlines.
3. Some B787 orders here and there.
4. Others that doesn't get as much press.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 6:38 pm

I suspect Boeing might finally show the NMA concept to deflect the conversation from the MAX even though it will not come with authority to offer or formal launch yet. I doubt they would do either of the two until after the MAX is flying worldwide again.

They also have to show it to stave off 321XLR orders.

As of yet - they have never publicly even shown a defined concept with defined specs (Size, Cabin Width/Cabin Config, Weight, thrust range, etc..).

I would be surprised if they didn't do even at least this much.
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 6:47 pm

1) AF/KLM narrowbody order
2) Project Sunrise
3) Maybe AS decision for more A321Neo or cancellation and more MAX
4) A220 order from Spirit, AA and LH
5) TK ULH order
6) Emirates confirmation of A330Neo or 789
7) Russian Airlines order SSJ to demonstrate safety

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Tue May 28, 2019 6:57 pm

LHA320 wrote:
1) AF/KLM narrowbody order
2) Project Sunrise
3) Maybe AS decision for more A321Neo or cancellation and more MAX
4) A220 order from Spirit, AA and LH
5) TK ULH order
6) Emirates confirmation of A330Neo or 789
7) Russian Airlines order SSJ to demonstrate safety

Did I forget something?


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Tue May 28, 2019 7:08 pm

lightsaber wrote:
EChid wrote:
IWMBH wrote:
As BA and LH recently have ordered the 77X I don't expect new European orders for the aircraft, maybe some from the middle-east? Emirates swapping their 787 options?

Emirates never had options, they had an MOU which was non-binding. They have no reason to shift orders around and order something else like they did with Airbus. I don't expect any order action for EK this show.

EK has made noise about still ordering the 787-10. However, such orders will be held for the Dubai airshow.

Thinking about business jets more, most of what I posted above will wait for that Airshow. :(. At least business jet related.

Lightsaber

Interestingly Sam Chui recently did an article where he commented that Emirates had removed the 787 from its backlog and by inference the order was dead. Emirates then contacted him and stated “In November 2017, Emirates announced a memorandum of understanding for the purchase of 40 Boeing 787s which at this time has not been converted into a firm contract. However, we can confirm that discussions on the 787 are on-going.”
It seems quite possible that they are still looking at taking , at least some, of the 787 - 10's.

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Tue May 28, 2019 7:15 pm

Gossip around RR losing NZ's Trent 1000 business to GEnX should be plentiful.
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Tue May 28, 2019 7:26 pm

There is an Aeroflot top-up A350 order somewhere in the pipeline
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 7:34 pm

lightsaber wrote:
danipawa wrote:
B777X and A220 going to be celebreties of the show...

Delta, United, AA ordering some replacements for the B767 fleet..

I would hope for 777X and A220 orders. I don't have any source on the former. For the A220, I know Spirit is shopping and I hear rumors about others, but nothing I consider sound or worth repeating.

I'm not hearing anything E2 related other than Spirit (A220 vs. E2). Anyone hear anything more? Aircastle bis trying, but every quarterly report is a whiff. (Whiff = Missed attempt)

The US3 order to replace 767s... Split. DL will top off A330NEOs. AS ordered 788s, so I think they made their decision. UA is the unknown.

I also expect a trickle of MAX and NEO orders. But MAX only if issues solved.

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Alaska ordered 787-8s? When did this happen?
 
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Tue May 28, 2019 7:37 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
There is an Aeroflot top-up A350 order somewhere in the pipeline

I see what you did there! :biggrin:

Prost wrote:
Alaska ordered 787-8s? When did this happen?

Clearly a typo: AA, not AS.
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Tue May 28, 2019 7:43 pm

Prost wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
danipawa wrote:
B777X and A220 going to be celebreties of the show...

Delta, United, AA ordering some replacements for the B767 fleet..

I would hope for 777X and A220 orders. I don't have any source on the former. For the A220, I know Spirit is shopping and I hear rumors about others, but nothing I consider sound or worth repeating.

I'm not hearing anything E2 related other than Spirit (A220 vs. E2). Anyone hear anything more? Aircastle bis trying, but every quarterly report is a whiff. (Whiff = Missed attempt)

The US3 order to replace 767s... Split. DL will top off A330NEOs. AS ordered 788s, so I think they made their decision. UA is the unknown.

I also expect a trickle of MAX and NEO orders. But MAX only if issues solved.

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Alaska ordered 787-8s? When did this happen?

As noted, typo AA ordered.

I have big hopes for Paris but really small expectations.

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Tue May 28, 2019 8:00 pm

I think a quiet show with the exception of some Leasing Company action.

I would love to see some A 220 sales as I think it is an outstanding aircraft.

I think Airbus announces some orders for the A320 LR. Maybe a few wide body top up orders but nothing major.
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Tue May 28, 2019 8:09 pm

Not expecting it, but would love to see AS concert the existing A320neo order into a mix of A321neo and A220 frames.
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You mean the Baris air show?
 
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For Comac, I wonder whether have they resolved their previously reported dispute with UAC or not yet
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Tue May 28, 2019 8:38 pm

N14AZ wrote:
keesje wrote:
- 777X progress, first flight

That would be great!

keesje wrote:
- A380, will it be in the flight program, static Show

That's a very good and interesting question. Not from the point of view of an aviation enthusiast or plane spotter, but from the point of view of a hobby psychologist
Signed, N14AZ, hobby psychologist ;-)

But seriously, with production ending, wouldn't it be a waste of money?

keesje wrote:
- A380, [...] news?

When I read this, I immediately had to think about a scene in the movie "Top Secret":
A general, talking on the phone to the local hospital:
"What is the condition of Sergeant Kruger?"
... some reply from the hospital but you cannot hear what has been said...
"I see. Let me know if there is any change in his condition."
The General then turns to the to people in the room and says; "He is dead."



very on point and very Funny Thank You
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Tue May 28, 2019 8:43 pm

ER757 wrote:
ORDfan101 wrote:
I think that in order to capture many orders, the nma should be launched in Paris

Very doubtful this will happen - IMO they are still trying to close the business case - will they be able to make a sufficient ROI? Don't count on a launch announcement - probably just an update on where they stand at this point.


I believe it is necessary for them to launch because the retirement frame for many 757/767s is fast approaching meaning that they must act fast
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Tue May 28, 2019 8:47 pm

I think there will be an announcement for an LOI for an unidentified customer. The type of aircraft that they will order will be decided on in a later stage. This deal will be for 5 to 50 planes and when firmed up will be delivered between 2027 and 2035.
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Wed May 29, 2019 5:29 am

EK2 wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
EChid wrote:
Emirates never had options, they had an MOU which was non-binding. They have no reason to shift orders around and order something else like they did with Airbus. I don't expect any order action for EK this show.

EK has made noise about still ordering the 787-10. However, such orders will be held for the Dubai airshow.

Thinking about business jets more, most of what I posted above will wait for that Airshow. :(. At least business jet related.

Lightsaber

Interestingly Sam Chui recently did an article where he commented that Emirates had removed the 787 from its backlog and by inference the order was dead. Emirates then contacted him and stated “In November 2017, Emirates announced a memorandum of understanding for the purchase of 40 Boeing 787s which at this time has not been converted into a firm contract. However, we can confirm that discussions on the 787 are on-going.”
It seems quite possible that they are still looking at taking , at least some, of the 787 - 10's.

Karl


Taking on some B787-10 would be useless though, cause it's not necessarily the cheapest aircraft out there to acquire. They must gotten a really nice discount on their A330neo when they convert alongside the A350. Taking on let just say 15 B787-10 would be waste of money.

Might as well get some more B777-9 instead because they know it would be the backbone for majority of their main routes.
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Wed May 29, 2019 5:56 am

Delta won’t order anything at this show especially if there is no 797 launch
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Wed May 29, 2019 6:19 am

Delta could convert some A321NEO's to XLR's.
"Never mistake motion for action." Ernest Hemingway
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Wed May 29, 2019 6:21 am

Any guesses for other US airlines ordering/converting to XLRs? B6? Other US3?
 
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Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

Wed May 29, 2019 6:22 am

N14AZ wrote:
keesje wrote:
- 777X progress, first flight

That would be great!

keesje wrote:
- A380, will it be in the flight program, static Show

That's a very good and interesting question. Not from the point of view of an aviation enthusiast or plane spotter, but from the point of view of a hobby psychologist
Signed, N14AZ, hobby psychologist ;-)

But seriously, with production ending, wouldn't it be a waste of money?


The A380 test frame will stay in Le Bourget after the airshow for static display inside the museum, it will not be that expensive i think.

I bet on a Korean 777X order, and for the big AF/KLM narrowbody some A220 and A320neo.
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