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United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 4:29 pm

According to a Spanish news site, United plans to launch EWR-SVQ 5x week starting May 2020.

https://sevilla.abc.es/sevilla/sevi-uni ... ticia.html
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 4:36 pm

"The airline will sign in the coming weeks the agreement with the city council for a season with five weekly flights" must they speak before things are set in ink? This happened to AA last year with Dubrovnik
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 4:58 pm

this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 5:19 pm

Technically the route is within the range of MAX9 too.
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 5:30 pm

omg how exciting! Seville and Andalusia is my favorite part of Spain, it has an enriching culture and most of all, a real soul.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 5:45 pm

raylee67 wrote:
Technically the route is within the range of MAX9 too.

lol not happening.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 5:50 pm

Aisak wrote:
United-EWR (read former CO) was known for throwin lots of 757-200 capacity from EWR to secondary cities across western Europe.


Didn't TWA do it as well to a lesser extent during the late '90s out of JFK?
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:13 pm

tphuang wrote:
this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?

Yes, plus Algarve in Portugal as well as the cities of Tangier and Ceuta in Morocco. Basically anyone who's already been to Madrid/Barcelona and wants more of a laid back, beach vacation. Sevilla itself is a really nice city.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:18 pm

Amazing news.

tphuang wrote:
this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?


Tourism to Sevilla has exploded over the last few years. So demand will come from American tourists and some locals going to the US for whatever reason. There are also two large US bases not that far from the city. However summer is kind of the low-season in Sevilla/Córdoba/Granada because it is like Phoenix-hot. Most European tourists travel to those cities over the fall/winter/spring when weather is much more pleasant.

The "Golden Triangle" for tourists is Córdoba-Granada-Sevilla. Málaga can be easily skipped. Really not much of cultural interest there. Coincidentally next month the new high-speed line to Granada will be open, so on top of the existing Sevilla-Córdoba (which is on the Sevilla-Madrid line), tourists will be able to do Córdoba-Granada or Sevilla-Granada by HSL. So SVQ should work well for US tourists visiting those three cities.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:20 pm

Aisak wrote:
United-EWR (read former CO) was known for throwin lots of 757-200 capacity from EWR to secondary cities across western Europe. Delta flies/flew/will fly/seasonally flies JFK-AGP. So, why not NYC-SVQ?


SVQ doesn't get anywhere near the passenger count of AGP. As for North American demand, I guess we'll see.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:21 pm

Great a new place to get a good Haircut!!!!
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:29 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
SVQ doesn't get anywhere near the passenger count of AGP. As for North American demand, I guess we'll see.


Numbers for AGP (like ALC or PMI) are that high because of Euro beachgoers. That has not much influence for US tourists. Granted AGP has the highest profile of those beach destinations (and that is why AGP has DL or QR).

I would put Seville in the same league of "cultural" destinations like Dubrovnik, Prague or Budapest which also have US flights.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:35 pm

Thanks for the post!
Does anyone know if they will co-share with Air Europa for other flights within Spain?.
I welcome the added competition. Delta is nice but worthless in terms of connectivity within Spain (they don't have any code-share agreements with any Spanish airlines since the demise of Spanair)
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:45 pm

Seville is a fantastic city, have been several times, but a 5 x weekly service from the USA seems a bit overkill, that said, one assumes UA have done due diligence on the route.....
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:49 pm

For U.S. - Andalucía traffic UA EWR-SVQ comes kind of to complement DL JFK-AGP.
Given how hot summers are in Seville, pretty sure UA would have huge seat sales promotions to entice North American tourists to travel to SVQ those months.
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:50 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
Aisak wrote:
United-EWR (read former CO) was known for throwin lots of 757-200 capacity from EWR to secondary cities across western Europe. Delta flies/flew/will fly/seasonally flies JFK-AGP. So, why not NYC-SVQ?


SVQ doesn't get anywhere near the passenger count of AGP. As for North American demand, I guess we'll see.


Indeed, quite a difference between the 6 million passengers per year at Seville in 2018 and 19 million at Malaga. This makes Malaga the 31st busiest airport in Europe and Seville the 75th.

Looking at the airlines serving Seville, it's mostly a LCC airport with Ryanair being the largest airline. Furthermore there are some regional connections, hardly any legacies. This is mostly due to the relative poverty in the region, Seville isn't exactly the wealthiest city in Spain. People can afford a cheap LCC ticket, but an expensive legacy ticket is out of their range. That's the reason the LCCs are doing so good there.

Malaga on the other hand is much wealthier than Seville. It lacks culture, but makes up for that with banks and insurance companies generating high-yielding traffic. It is also the gateway to Sotogrande, a very rich international community in the south of Spain. Malaga is also a coastal city, generating quite a bit of holiday traffic from sun worshipers that are going to places like Torremolinos. Mostly from northern Europe but occasionally some Americans who want to try something else for a change as well.

I think this route won't last very long, the demand is simply not there. At least not from the European side. Seville is not a hub, it's a regional airport. Therefor there's also no connecting traffic to help fill the planes.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 6:57 pm

Guessing this will be on a 752? Great add for UA!
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 7:14 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
Malaga on the other hand is much wealthier than Seville.


Málaga is not "much wealthier" than Seville. In 2016, Seville had a higher GDP per capita (EUR 19,011) than Málaga (EUR 17,456). Adding that cost of living in Málaga is substantially higher than in Seville, that makes me wonder how a lot of people make ends there.

Málaga might give a false sense of prosperity because it just happens to have a cluster of 2nd homes around Marbella not only for wealthy European and Northern African people but also GCCers (hence Qatar, Saudia, Gulf Air or Kuwait Airways flying there) and Americans (Delta). AGP also attracts traffic from Sotogrande and Gibraltar. Relatively similar to Nice / Côte d'Azur or other coastal areas that attract high flyers.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 7:30 pm

2travel2know2 wrote:
For U.S. - Andalucía traffic UA EWR-SVQ comes kind of to complement DL JFK-AGP.
Given how hot summers are in Seville, pretty sure UA would have huge seat sales promotions to entice North American tourists to travel to SVQ those months.


Pricing won't be the inverse of temperatures. Americans go to Rome, Madrid, Athens and Istanbul in summer in spite of the heat, because that's when kids are out of school and when people take their 'long' vacations. Seville won't be any different.

SCQ83 wrote:
I would put Seville in the same league of "cultural" destinations like Dubrovnik, Prague or Budapest which also have US flights.


Yup. And those are airports with limited, largely seasonal, U.S. services.

You can argue what's the better airport to the USA, AGP or SVQ, but DL has successfully operated Malaga for a decade.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 7:43 pm

Pending an official announcement, this is great to hear. Also on that note, I really hope UA's adds for next summer include some secondary France. I would think EWR-NCE would be worth a try.
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 8:02 pm

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Didn't TWA do it as well to a lesser extent during the late '90s out of JFK?


JFK-LIS for sure. Maybe BCN?
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed May 29, 2019 8:10 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
Amazing news.

tphuang wrote:
this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?


Tourism to Sevilla has exploded over the last few years. So demand will come from American tourists and some locals going to the US for whatever reason. There are also two large US bases not that far from the city. However summer is kind of the low-season in Sevilla/Córdoba/Granada because it is like Phoenix-hot. Most European tourists travel to those cities over the fall/winter/spring when weather is much more pleasant.

The "Golden Triangle" for tourists is Córdoba-Granada-Sevilla. Málaga can be easily skipped. Really not much of cultural interest there. Coincidentally next month the new high-speed line to Granada will be open, so on top of the existing Sevilla-Córdoba (which is on the Sevilla-Madrid line), tourists will be able to do Córdoba-Granada or Sevilla-Granada by HSL. So SVQ should work well for US tourists visiting those three cities.


Right. There is a lot of tourism to Sevilla. for US tourists, the question is whether that's part of a general trip to Spain or just a special trip to the south. There is certainly not much VFR or business traffic to this region. People that I've known (including myself) who have visited Granada or Sevilla have done this as part of a trip to Spain. Not everyone wants to spend their entire time in Barca or Madrid, but vasty majority of people going to Spain will land in BCN/MAD. So what is the US tourism demand to just Andalusia? And then you have to subtract the people that will connect at MAD or LHR instead of EWR.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Thu May 30, 2019 4:35 am

tphuang wrote:
Right. There is a lot of tourism to Sevilla. for US tourists, the question is whether that's part of a general trip to Spain or just a special trip to the south. There is certainly not much VFR or business traffic to this region. People that I've known (including myself) who have visited Granada or Sevilla have done this as part of a trip to Spain. Not everyone wants to spend their entire time in Barca or Madrid, but vasty majority of people going to Spain will land in BCN/MAD. So what is the US tourism demand to just Andalusia? And then you have to subtract the people that will connect at MAD or LHR instead of EWR.


VFR there is. Two US bases (Rota and Morón). Also Sevilla and its metro area is one of the largest in Spain; there will always people willing to travel on holidays to NYC or further ahead to the rest of the US.

Americans travel more today and many Americans have already visited other major cities like MAD or BCN, so they are venturing to other places (Dubrovnik is a good example). Andalusia has enough cultural visits to keep your average tourist entertained for a week, which is probably an average trip of an American tourist in Europe.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Thu May 30, 2019 6:42 am

tphuang wrote:

Right. There is a lot of tourism to Sevilla. for US tourists, the question is whether that's part of a general trip to Spain or just a special trip to the south. There is certainly not much VFR or business traffic to this region. People that I've known (including myself) who have visited Granada or Sevilla have done this as part of a trip to Spain. Not everyone wants to spend their entire time in Barca or Madrid, but vasty majority of people going to Spain will land in BCN/MAD. So what is the US tourism demand to just Andalusia? And then you have to subtract the people that will connect at MAD or LHR instead of EWR.


You're right, most of US tourists coming for a long/summer vacation in Spain do move around the country taking advantage of the nice train network and especially the hi-speed linking major spots such as Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Malaga and Sevilla.

IMO, it would make much better sense for UA to serve either MAD or BCN from ORD or IAH.

Would be highly surprised if this last more than one season, even being subisdized by local authorities.
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Thu May 30, 2019 6:50 am

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Great a new place to get a good Haircut!!!!


Yup, gonna need to hear the backstory to this one!
 
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Thu May 30, 2019 8:21 am

hic787 wrote:
TrafficCop wrote:
Great a new place to get a good Haircut!!!!

Yup, gonna need to hear the backstory to this one!

Can't tell if you're being serious with this, so going to reply as if you are:

There is no backstory, he's making a joke:
"The Barber of Seville" is a hugely famous orchestral music piece.

You've definitely heard it before.... if for nothing other than the also-famous Looney Tunes spoof:
https://youtu.be/uYBce9Gsz7g?t=35
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Thu May 30, 2019 8:36 am

After spending a month in Spain last year I must say Andalusia was my favourite part. Forget Malaga - why would a US tourist want to go there ? They will want the cultural experience which is Seville- Cordoba and Granada.

Nothing says you need to fly in and out of Seville. Maybe start there and work your way to Paris.
 
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Thu May 30, 2019 10:44 am

Thats like a slap in the face for someone living in Hamburg and traveling to the US a lot.
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Thu May 30, 2019 11:11 am

LAX772LR wrote:
hic787 wrote:
TrafficCop wrote:
Great a new place to get a good Haircut!!!!

Yup, gonna need to hear the backstory to this one!

Can't tell if you're being serious with this, so going to reply as if you are:

There is no backstory, he's making a joke:
"The Barber of Seville" is a hugely famous orchestral music piece.

You've definitely heard it before.... if for nothing other than the also-famous Looney Tunes spoof:
https://youtu.be/uYBce9Gsz7g?t=35

It is actually an opera, by Rossini. But, sure, there is an orchestra involved as well... ;)
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Thu May 30, 2019 11:24 am

tphuang wrote:
this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?


If they're clued up on the geography of Spain and this new option along with DL's AGP flight, it isn't always appropriate to just fly in and out of MAD by default and travel down by some other means unless Madrid is also part of their trip, though it depends whereabouts in the US people are flying from and I've no idea what the price differences will be.

SVQ is also handy for anyone crossing the border into Portugal to go to the Algarve and FAO has no direct flights to the US at the present time.

Time will tell whether this is a success or not.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm

Don’t know about Americans but Sevilla is THE host destination for European citybreakers right now. At this point everybody and their mother has been to Lisbon, Barcelona or Naples. Plus, it’s the gateway to west Andalusia and Córdoba is also a short ride away.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:29 am

SCQ83 wrote:
Amazing news.

tphuang wrote:
this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?


Tourism to Sevilla has exploded over the last few years. So demand will come from American tourists and some locals going to the US for whatever reason. There are also two large US bases not that far from the city. However summer is kind of the low-season in Sevilla/Córdoba/Granada because it is like Phoenix-hot. Most European tourists travel to those cities over the fall/winter/spring when weather is much more pleasant.

The "Golden Triangle" for tourists is Córdoba-Granada-Sevilla. Málaga can be easily skipped. Really not much of cultural interest there. Coincidentally next month the new high-speed line to Granada will be open, so on top of the existing Sevilla-Córdoba (which is on the Sevilla-Madrid line), tourists will be able to do Córdoba-Granada or Sevilla-Granada by HSL. So SVQ should work well for US tourists visiting those three cities.


"..not much of cultular interest there.."
Picasso, Thyssen, Pompidou, Russian Museum among others rings a bell? The city itself has ancient buildings that deserve a visit ( yes not the Alhambra but nice) and there are a lot of marvellous places like Ronda, Mijas, Nerja...
Apart from Madrid n Barcelona there isnt a better place for Museums in Spain than Malaga
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:54 am

Thibault973 wrote:
Don’t know about Americans but Sevilla is THE host destination for European citybreakers right now. At this point everybody and their mother has been to Lisbon, Barcelona or Naples. Plus, it’s the gateway to west Andalusia and Córdoba is also a short ride away.


Seville is indeed a lovely city. I went there for the first time for one night 12 years ago and again back in 2011 for a few nights just before Ryanair pulled their LPL-SVQ route, though I note that Ryanair have been growing from SVQ in recent years and they now have a MAN route. I've no idea how busy it is nowadays and if crowds are an issue like it is in places such as Barcelona, but it's good to see it's becoming more popular and I hope to go back sometime, though maybe not in the summer months as I last went during an August and it was hot!

Kadish wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
Amazing news.

tphuang wrote:
this would be great =) although I do question how much demand there are. I can't imagine the demand to Seville itself being that high even accounting for connection traffic. Would people looking to go to Granada, Cordoba or Malaga take this or would they just fly in to Madrid?


Tourism to Sevilla has exploded over the last few years. So demand will come from American tourists and some locals going to the US for whatever reason. There are also two large US bases not that far from the city. However summer is kind of the low-season in Sevilla/Córdoba/Granada because it is like Phoenix-hot. Most European tourists travel to those cities over the fall/winter/spring when weather is much more pleasant.

The "Golden Triangle" for tourists is Córdoba-Granada-Sevilla. Málaga can be easily skipped. Really not much of cultural interest there. Coincidentally next month the new high-speed line to Granada will be open, so on top of the existing Sevilla-Córdoba (which is on the Sevilla-Madrid line), tourists will be able to do Córdoba-Granada or Sevilla-Granada by HSL. So SVQ should work well for US tourists visiting those three cities.


"..not much of cultular interest there.."
Picasso, Thyssen, Pompidou, Russian Museum among others rings a bell? The city itself has ancient buildings that deserve a visit ( yes not the Alhambra but nice) and there are a lot of marvellous places like Ronda, Mijas, Nerja...
Apart from Madrid n Barcelona there isnt a better place for Museums in Spain than Malaga


I did a day trip to Malaga a couple of years ago when I was in the Costa del Sol, was quite impressed by it and was a nice antidote to some of the overdeveloped tourist towns not far to the south west of the city. I'd certainly consider Malaga for a weekend break and would recommend a day trip to anyone on holiday in the area.

Agreed about Ronda in particular. The drive from the coast alone is an attraction in itself. As for Mijas, I'm staying up in the hills close to the town in a few weeks and I'm looking forward to it.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:11 am

Will the route be served by the ERJ-145?
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:40 am

Noise wrote:
Will the route be served by the ERJ-145?


Seeing as how Seville is in Spain and Newark is in New jersey.....well.
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rjmf22 wrote:
Noise wrote:
Will the route be served by the ERJ-145?


Seeing as how Seville is in Spain and Newark is in New jersey.....well.


I ask because I believe we're all aware of UA's fondness for using the ERJ-145 for some pretty long routes.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:50 am

Dont know if UA and DL are still fighting for top dog in NYC, but if they are DL really needs to step up the secondary seasonal stuff out of JFK.

UA is having a field day with this stuff for several years now.

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Noise wrote:
rjmf22 wrote:
Noise wrote:
Will the route be served by the ERJ-145?


Seeing as how Seville is in Spain and Newark is in New jersey.....well.


I ask because I believe we're all aware of UA's fondness for using the ERJ-145 for some pretty long routes.


Maybe they'll use the new CRJ-550!
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

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Noise wrote:
rjmf22 wrote:
Noise wrote:
Will the route be served by the ERJ-145?


Seeing as how Seville is in Spain and Newark is in New jersey.....well.


I ask because I believe we're all aware of UA's fondness for using the ERJ-145 for some pretty long routes.

Those routes are almost nonexistent now.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:57 am

So is this official or is this still
a rumor from a Spanish newspaper? I don’t see any official UA release or anything like that.


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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:03 pm

Discussions about using CRJ and E145s in TATL service aren't on topic, and ceased to be even a little bit clever years ago.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:12 pm

chepos wrote:
So is this official or is this still
a rumor from a Spanish newspaper? I don’t see any official UA release or anything like that.


It seems this route will involve some kind of subsidy from the city council and/or the Junta (Andalucia's regional government) so UA might be waiting for the cheque :)

On the other hand, I am sure people in Málaga will not happy about this new route, considering the rivalry between the two cities and that many people in Eastern Andalucía (Granada or Málaga) think the regional government gives Seville a privileged status (in this case subsidies to somehow compete with DL on JFK-AGP).
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:00 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
hic787 wrote:
TrafficCop wrote:
Great a new place to get a good Haircut!!!!

Yup, gonna need to hear the backstory to this one!

Can't tell if you're being serious with this, so going to reply as if you are:

There is no backstory, he's making a joke:
"The Barber of Seville" is a hugely famous orchestral music piece.

You've definitely heard it before.... if for nothing other than the also-famous Looney Tunes spoof:
https://youtu.be/uYBce9Gsz7g?t=35


Ahahah, my thoughts initially when I heard of Seville.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:44 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
Discussions about using CRJ and E145s in TATL service aren't on topic, and ceased to be even a little bit clever years ago.


So does that mean they plan on using the ERJ-145?
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:01 am

Seville or any other similar destination is always exciting to read about. But the first thing I think of is the upcoming 797!
If TWA or PanAm served these destinations, what equipment would they have used? A 707? Because I cannot imagine that those wonderful old legacies had anything much smaller than a L-1011 (I cannot imagine a 747 to Seville or any such sized city.)
Q#1: Does UA have enough 752s to add nonstops (with a lower seat count in J)?. Because even a low J 763 seems large to me?
I guess what I am asking is, with the number of new WBs coming to UA by Spring next year, will they free up 752s?
Also, I have not expected that UA will install a new J product on their 752s given their age. Even if UA already has designed the lie flat Polaris-lite seat for the 737-10, would those new seats would make it onto the 752s?
“IF” UA had A321ER’s, with a nice F like AA has, (but Polaris looking), I could see UA opening up a number of niche routes and actually fill most of Polaris-lite with paying passengers.
BIG QUESTION: Can a 737MAX-10 configured similarly make EWR to Nice or Monaco, or Zermatt? (Naturally once 737MAX’s are cleared to fly again)
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:48 am

jfklganyc wrote:
Dont know if UA and DL are still fighting for top dog in NYC, but if they are DL really needs to step up the secondary seasonal stuff out of JFK.

UA is having a field day with this stuff for several years now.

Nice add


My Impression is the opposite: they suspended big parts of this "secondary" stuff, these cities started by Continental once.
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:50 am

VC10er wrote:
BIG QUESTION: Can a 737MAX-10 configured similarly make EWR to Nice or Monaco, or Zermatt? (Naturally once 737MAX’s are cleared to fly again)


Serious?
even the airport of Sion (SIR) would be a complete long shot. They basically have no commercial service. The Rhone valley is served by GVA and to a lesser extend BRN, although the runway is even shorter than in SIR.
 
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Re: United to launch Newark-Seville next year

Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:20 am

fraT wrote:
VC10er wrote:
BIG QUESTION: Can a 737MAX-10 configured similarly make EWR to Nice or Monaco, or Zermatt? (Naturally once 737MAX’s are cleared to fly again)


Serious?
even the airport of Sion (SIR) would be a complete long shot. They basically have no commercial service. The Rhone valley is served by GVA and to a lesser extend BRN, although the runway is even shorter than in SIR.


Not serious!
I pulled Zermatt out of my____!!! (I almost said the Shetland Islands, Lol.
My thought was a premium niche market where F would sell. Just as an example of how niche an airline can go.
MOSTLY: I am simply and mostly wondering about the viability and range of a “fixed and approved to fly” 737MAX-10 to fly EWR or IAD (BOS?) over the Atlantic and how deep into Europe? Especially if she was a beautiful premium heavy bird with Lie Flat First, PE and E+. Florence? Lugano?
Or would she be limited to the UK and WEST EU only?
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