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Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:41 pm
by kaitak
Good evening folks and welcome to our latest thread in 2019.

It's been an interesting month, with some good and positive developments:

- DAA commits to €40m spending plan for ORK
- Air Baltic to make DUB-RIX year-round
- First EI A321Neo breaks cover, now with engines. EI to put it on SNN-US this winter
- Aerspace finally launched
- Hainan's out, then in again and now ... out again?
- LH to operate A340s to DUB on Wednesdays during summer
- UAL launches 787-10 service to DUB.
- Regulator and DAA argue over airport levy
- Responsibility for air safety to move from IAA to Commission for Aviation Regulation
- FR and Boeing agree 737 Max compensation deal; FR wants to be first to re-order Max when it returns to service.
- Waterford runway extension "a step closer"

Here's hoping for a good summer (and a little more sunshine wouldn't go amiss!)

Here's a link to the last thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1421559

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:43 pm
by uconn99
WIll DUB-BDL be one of the first A321NEO routes?

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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 10:01 pm
by Ishrion
AA will launch DFW-DUB on the 6th.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 10:33 pm
by OA260
LH982 wrote:
Are the eGates in T2 open all the time now, or are they still a novelty item?

OA260 wrote:
Ryanair flight delayed two hours as staff try to count passengers

A weekend flight to Belfast was grounded for almost two hours and didn't take off until midnight because flight staff couldn't work out the number of passengers on board, it has been claimed.

Around 100 people were on the late night Ryanair flight from London Stansted Airport on Sunday and were left stranded on the tarmac as staff tried to confirm how many passengers were on the aircraft.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/n ... 53638.html

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Dublin Airport gets new set of eGates for speedier passport control

Justice Minister Charlie Flanagan TD will be launching the brand new eGates on Saturday

Dublin Airport is set to get a new set of passport control eGates ahead of the busy summer period.

The state-of-the-art technology at Terminal One will feature flatbed scanners and both increase speed and ease of use for passengers, while also providing for the use of the Passport Card in eGates for the first time.

Justice Minister Charlie Flanagan TD will be launching the brand new eGates on Saturday.

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-ne ... t-16352835



Not sure whats going on with them. They are never open everytime I go through T2 arrivals. Most of the time Im coming through quite late but even the few times Ive been arriving around 4-5pm they are shut. They really need to be open all of the time unless they are going to be replaced by the new ones going into T1 which read passport cards.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:35 pm
by Eagleboy
uconn99 wrote:
WIll DUB-BDL be one of the first A321NEO routes?

Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug.
Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July.

(MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965)

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor
From Dublin, AerLingus A321neo LR to serve Hartford from 02AUG19 (moved back from 15AUG19), Newark from 13FEB20, Washington Dulles from 29OCT19, Philadelphia from 01NOV19

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:39 pm
by B1168
Does anybody have any idea on how HU’s doing on the SZX route? I remember one Weibo user reporting the route reaching a sub-10% LF around March...... I really doubt it will ever yield profit.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:41 am
by klm617
Eagleboy wrote:
uconn99 wrote:
WIll DUB-BDL be one of the first A321NEO routes?

Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug.
Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July.

(MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965)

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor
From Dublin, AerLingus A321neo LR to serve Hartford from 02AUG19 (moved back from 15AUG19), Newark from 13FEB20, Washington Dulles from 29OCT19, Philadelphia from 01NOV19



Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:47 am
by OA260
Flew on the new 5th Freedom DUB-MAD with ET. Aircraft was changed to a 77L due to being full of Liverpool fans on the inbound. Have to say it was an excellent flight and highly recommend it to fellow Anetters.

I know a few are booked already and sure they will enjoy it. Im certainly going to do it again sometime. The Business Class product for such a short hop was impressive. I did not expect a full service similar to what some carriers serve on longhaul! Crew were fantastic. Felt like the good old days of travel. Would love to see ET get some more 5th freedom out of DUB especially TATL.


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On another note T1 was packed solid and that narrow area where Boots and Dixons are was unbearable. No room to move and very stuffy and hot. They need to do something there its just too narrow for the amount of passengers now using it.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 am
by shamrock350
klm617 wrote:
Eagleboy wrote:
uconn99 wrote:
WIll DUB-BDL be one of the first A321NEO routes?

Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug.
Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July.

(MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965)

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor
From Dublin, AerLingus A321neo LR to serve Hartford from 02AUG19 (moved back from 15AUG19), Newark from 13FEB20, Washington Dulles from 29OCT19, Philadelphia from 01NOV19



Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer


Worth remembering this is a preliminary schedule, for example EWR only shows as A321LR on TUE/THU/SAT between 13FEB and 10MAR before it reverts entirely to A333 for summer. It's a similar situation with IAD, it's down as a daily A321LR until late April when the A332 takes over for much of the week. There's plenty of scope for new A321LR routes next summer before you even begin to consider the additional A330s joining later this year and any potential route up gauges.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:55 am
by ClassicLover
OA260 wrote:
Flew on the new 5th Freedom DUB-MAD with ET. Aircraft was changed to a 77L due to being full of Liverpool fans on the inbound. Have to say it was an excellent flight and highly recommend it to fellow Anetters.

I know a few are booked already and sure they will enjoy it. Im certainly going to do it again sometime. The Business Class product for such a short hop was impressive. I did not expect a full service similar to what some carriers serve on longhaul! Crew were fantastic. Felt like the good old days of travel.


Fantastic set of pictures there - I'm sold! It's definitely the best way to Madrid, judging by the catering and service there. Really great... I'm off to look up prices as we speak :)

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:18 am
by eicvd
OA260 wrote:
Flew on the new 5th Freedom DUB-MAD with ET. Aircraft was changed to a 77L due to being full of Liverpool fans on the inbound. Have to say it was an excellent flight and highly recommend it to fellow Anetters.

I know a few are booked already and sure they will enjoy it. Im certainly going to do it again sometime. The Business Class product for such a short hop was impressive. I did not expect a full service similar to what some carriers serve on longhaul! Crew were fantastic. Felt like the good old days of travel. Would love to see ET get some more 5th freedom out of DUB especially TATL.


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On another note T1 was packed solid and that narrow area where Boots and Dixons are was unbearable. No room to move and very stuffy and hot. They need to do something there its just too narrow for the amount of passengers now using it.


Did you visit any of the lounges in DUB? Thinking of using them on my next trip away, any feedback would be appreciated.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:38 am
by BrianDromey
The Ethiopian service looks really great - hopefully they can make it work long-term.

eicvd wrote:
Did you visit any of the lounges in DUB? Thinking of using them on my next trip away, any feedback would be appreciated.


Used the T2 DAA lounge last week, it's terrible. The space has no sense of welcome, its tall and makes no use of the apron views. the furniture is drab and uncomfortable, the space looks tired and in need of both a deep clean and a refurbishment. The staff are like a Pam Ann BA sketch - clearly customers are a pain, disrupting their time rather than to be welcome and looked after and the coffee was black poison. There are two redeeming features - the chicken and stuffing sandwiches and the toilets, which were clean and spacious. Honestly, unless you have free entry I wouldn't bother with the T2 lounge. DAA should get someone who know what they are doing, like No1 in to run it. I'm not usually keen on Aspire, but they ORK lounge is streets ahead.
Eagleboy wrote:
Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer

Seems to be mainly winter 19 routes, I think? Summer 2020 is fairly uncertain at this stage, I'd say. It seems fairly certain that a pair of LRs will be based at SNN next summer and one 757 will definitely be gone. The introduction of new routes probably depends on how many LR's Airbus can deliver before the summer schedule, the 757 retirement plan and the number and quantity of A330s to be delivered. I think the rumour mill suggests anywhere between two and four additional A330s, possibly with 1/2 A332 retirements.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:00 pm
by JAmie2k9
klm617 wrote:
Eagleboy wrote:
uconn99 wrote:
WIll DUB-BDL be one of the first A321NEO routes?

Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug.
Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July.

(MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965)

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor
From Dublin, AerLingus A321neo LR to serve Hartford from 02AUG19 (moved back from 15AUG19), Newark from 13FEB20, Washington Dulles from 29OCT19, Philadelphia from 01NOV19



Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer


Only 4 allocated in summer 2020 currently and 4 more due in 2020.

April 2020 (current schedules):
DUB-IAD (A332)
DUB-PHl (B752)
DUB-BDL (B752)
SNN-BOS (B752)

Not Confirmed:
SNN-JFK (B752)
DUB-YUL - if resumes as planned
DUB-MSP (B752) - might be A332 contender or split between both.
DUB-New Route

So they have an A330 (possibly two) and two A321 to schedule. Then again Airbus production line might have other plans!

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:02 pm
by eicvd
BrianDromey wrote:
The Ethiopian service looks really great - hopefully they can make it work long-term.

eicvd wrote:
Did you visit any of the lounges in DUB? Thinking of using them on my next trip away, any feedback would be appreciated.


Used the T2 DAA lounge last week, it's terrible. The space has no sense of welcome, its tall and makes no use of the apron views. the furniture is drab and uncomfortable, the space looks tired and in need of both a deep clean and a refurbishment. The staff are like a Pam Ann BA sketch - clearly customers are a pain, disrupting their time rather than to be welcome and looked after and the coffee was black poison. There are two redeeming features - the chicken and stuffing sandwiches and the toilets, which were clean and spacious. Honestly, unless you have free entry I wouldn't bother with the T2 lounge. DAA should get someone who know what they are doing, like No1 in to run it. I'm not usually keen on Aspire, but they ORK lounge is streets ahead.
Eagleboy wrote:
Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer

Seems to be mainly winter 19 routes, I think? Summer 2020 is fairly uncertain at this stage, I'd say. It seems fairly certain that a pair of LRs will be based at SNN next summer and one 757 will definitely be gone. The introduction of new routes probably depends on how many LR's Airbus can deliver before the summer schedule, the 757 retirement plan and the number and quantity of A330s to be delivered. I think the rumour mill suggests anywhere between two and four additional A330s, possibly with 1/2 A332 retirements.


Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:44 pm
by tonystan
eicvd wrote:
BrianDromey wrote:
The Ethiopian service looks really great - hopefully they can make it work long-term.

eicvd wrote:
Did you visit any of the lounges in DUB? Thinking of using them on my next trip away, any feedback would be appreciated.


Used the T2 DAA lounge last week, it's terrible. The space has no sense of welcome, its tall and makes no use of the apron views. the furniture is drab and uncomfortable, the space looks tired and in need of both a deep clean and a refurbishment. The staff are like a Pam Ann BA sketch - clearly customers are a pain, disrupting their time rather than to be welcome and looked after and the coffee was black poison. There are two redeeming features - the chicken and stuffing sandwiches and the toilets, which were clean and spacious. Honestly, unless you have free entry I wouldn't bother with the T2 lounge. DAA should get someone who know what they are doing, like No1 in to run it. I'm not usually keen on Aspire, but they ORK lounge is streets ahead.
Eagleboy wrote:
Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer

Seems to be mainly winter 19 routes, I think? Summer 2020 is fairly uncertain at this stage, I'd say. It seems fairly certain that a pair of LRs will be based at SNN next summer and one 757 will definitely be gone. The introduction of new routes probably depends on how many LR's Airbus can deliver before the summer schedule, the 757 retirement plan and the number and quantity of A330s to be delivered. I think the rumour mill suggests anywhere between two and four additional A330s, possibly with 1/2 A332 retirements.


Thanks for the feedback.


I’ll add to that. I use the DAA lounge in T1 as I’m BA Gold. It’s equally as bad although it has had a few improvements to furniture in recent months. Again you can’t see anything out the windows, it’s regularly packed, the food area is at the opposite end of the lounge from the bar so lots of to-ing and fro-ing and the staff are not the most proactive. It really is a bit of an embarrassment if I’m honest.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:56 pm
by klm617
JAmie2k9 wrote:
klm617 wrote:
Eagleboy wrote:
Airliner routes on twitter confirmed this will happen from 2nd Aug.
Not sure where the A321LR will be deployed in July.

(MSNs for 1st 3three aircraft are 8887, 8909, 8965)

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute?ref_sr ... r%5Eauthor
From Dublin, AerLingus A321neo LR to serve Hartford from 02AUG19 (moved back from 15AUG19), Newark from 13FEB20, Washington Dulles from 29OCT19, Philadelphia from 01NOV19



Well with all the A321LR frames spoken for in 2020 doesn't look like we can expect any new A321 routes next summer


Only 4 allocated in summer 2020 currently and 4 more due in 2020.

April 2020 (current schedules):
DUB-IAD (A332)
DUB-PHl (B752)
DUB-BDL (B752)
SNN-BOS (B752)

Not Confirmed:
SNN-JFK (B752)
DUB-YUL - if resumes as planned
DUB-MSP (B752) - might be A332 contender or split between both.
DUB-New Route

So they have an A330 (possibly two) and two A321 to schedule. Then again Airbus production line might have other plans!



Keeping my fingers and toes crossed for DTW-DUB in 2020 on Aer Lingus.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:50 am
by eicvd
tonystan wrote:
eicvd wrote:
BrianDromey wrote:
The Ethiopian service looks really great - hopefully they can make it work long-term.



Used the T2 DAA lounge last week, it's terrible. The space has no sense of welcome, its tall and makes no use of the apron views. the furniture is drab and uncomfortable, the space looks tired and in need of both a deep clean and a refurbishment. The staff are like a Pam Ann BA sketch - clearly customers are a pain, disrupting their time rather than to be welcome and looked after and the coffee was black poison. There are two redeeming features - the chicken and stuffing sandwiches and the toilets, which were clean and spacious. Honestly, unless you have free entry I wouldn't bother with the T2 lounge. DAA should get someone who know what they are doing, like No1 in to run it. I'm not usually keen on Aspire, but they ORK lounge is streets ahead.

Seems to be mainly winter 19 routes, I think? Summer 2020 is fairly uncertain at this stage, I'd say. It seems fairly certain that a pair of LRs will be based at SNN next summer and one 757 will definitely be gone. The introduction of new routes probably depends on how many LR's Airbus can deliver before the summer schedule, the 757 retirement plan and the number and quantity of A330s to be delivered. I think the rumour mill suggests anywhere between two and four additional A330s, possibly with 1/2 A332 retirements.


Thanks for the feedback.


I’ll add to that. I use the DAA lounge in T1 as I’m BA Gold. It’s equally as bad although it has had a few improvements to furniture in recent months. Again you can’t see anything out the windows, it’s regularly packed, the food area is at the opposite end of the lounge from the bar so lots of to-ing and fro-ing and the staff are not the most proactive. It really is a bit of an embarrassment if I’m honest.


Looks like I’m better off going to the chocolate lounge & making the most of the views then. Thanks for your opinion Tonystan.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:32 am
by OA260
ClassicLover wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Flew on the new 5th Freedom DUB-MAD with ET. Aircraft was changed to a 77L due to being full of Liverpool fans on the inbound. Have to say it was an excellent flight and highly recommend it to fellow Anetters.

I know a few are booked already and sure they will enjoy it. Im certainly going to do it again sometime. The Business Class product for such a short hop was impressive. I did not expect a full service similar to what some carriers serve on longhaul! Crew were fantastic. Felt like the good old days of travel.


Fantastic set of pictures there - I'm sold! It's definitely the best way to Madrid, judging by the catering and service there. Really great... I'm off to look up prices as we speak :)


Thanks yes certainly worth doing. Madrid is a great city so well worth a few days. Especially now as we seem to be having a typical Irish Summer and sadly nothing like last year .


eicvd wrote:
OA260 wrote:

Did you visit any of the lounges in DUB? Thinking of using them on my next trip away, any feedback would be appreciated.


Used T1 lounge which has improved a lot . I remember when I used to use it when it was split into two lounges BMI and DAA. Of course the lounges were not as full as they are now. The refurb is nice plenty of seating on the right side but due to that less space for food stations. I dont like the left side as much. It is hard to know what else they could have done given the split nature of the space and also the limited space. For such a busy airport they really need maybe a third lounge looking at re opening the old GC / DAA in the upper 300 ( B ) Gates might be desirable.
With the new premium lounge opening it might take the strain off the other one. With regards food options this has improved also. On Sunday they had various items on offer from wraps/sandwiches and pastries with a decent selection of drinks and good coffee. The staff I nearly always find friendly and they clean up used tables pretty quickly. Some people think that staff are there to entertain them and serve them but I am not that type of person. The T2 lounge is ok but not nice when its full as its just too enclosed and clinical for my liking. I agree with comments that the lack of views similar to what you have in the EI lounge is a down side. If you could get DAA style catering in the EI lounge it would make the EI lounge a lot better as taking the catering aside I like the EI lounge .

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:40 am
by planemanofnz
B1168 wrote:
Does anybody have any idea on how HU’s doing on the SZX route? I remember one Weibo user reporting the route reaching a sub-10% LF around March...... I really doubt it will ever yield profit.

If they were smart, they would try to time the flight to connect with HU's SZX - Australia and New Zealand services.

Cargo may also help this route - Ireland exports a lot of time-sensitive food products to China, which HU could tap.

Once subsidies for the route end - say in 2-3 years time - I doubt the route will survive, but want to be proven wrong.

Cheers,

C.

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:22 pm
by B1168
planemanofnz wrote:
B1168 wrote:
Does anybody have any idea on how HU’s doing on the SZX route? I remember one Weibo user reporting the route reaching a sub-10% LF around March...... I really doubt it will ever yield profit.

If they were smart, they would try to time the flight to connect with HU's SZX - Australia and New Zealand services.

Cargo may also help this route - Ireland exports a lot of time-sensitive food products to China, which HU could tap.

Once subsidies for the route end - say in 2-3 years time - I doubt the route will survive, but want to be proven wrong.

Cheers,

C.


I really doubt it. SZX-MEL/SYD was not operated by HU, so no connection would be possible; HU opérate flights to BNE,CNS(!) and AKL indeed, but due to low frequency, it’s not exactly as favorable as a stopover in DXB or SIN, for example.
Speaking of CNS, SZX’s heavily subsidized service have caused both CZ and CX to give in their CNS route, leaving less connectivity to mainland China, MENA and Europe.

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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:39 pm
by OA260
Junior minister berates Dublin Airport for long passport control queues: 'These scenes reflect badly on us'

A junior minister has hit out at Dublin Airport for what passengers labelled "ridiculously" long queues at passport control.

According to disgruntled travellers, passengers were forced to queue along corridors and escalators for almost an hour yesterday while awaiting passport control.

Junior Minister Ciarán Cannon took to Twitter to vent, writing; "Would be interested to hear from @DublinAirport as to why it’s not possible to count the number of inbound passengers and staff the passport desks accordingly.

"These scenes reflect badly on us and are completely avoidable."

www.independent.ie/irish-news/junior-mi ... 80477.html

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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:56 pm
by wexfordflyer
OA260 wrote:
Junior minister berates Dublin Airport for long passport control queues: 'These scenes reflect badly on us'

A junior minister has hit out at Dublin Airport for what passengers labelled "ridiculously" long queues at passport control.

According to disgruntled travellers, passengers were forced to queue along corridors and escalators for almost an hour yesterday while awaiting passport control.

Junior Minister Ciarán Cannon took to Twitter to vent, writing; "Would be interested to hear from @DublinAirport as to why it’s not possible to count the number of inbound passengers and staff the passport desks accordingly.

"These scenes reflect badly on us and are completely avoidable."

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ju ... 80477.html


The junior minister would do well to do his research and understand how the process works.Dublin Airport does not staff immigration, that's a job for INIS and the Dept of Justice. Comments like this annoy me, especially from political figures who should know better.

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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:58 pm
by wexfordflyer
Trump has arrived in SNN on Air Force One (757)

https://twitter.com/christinafinn8?ref_ ... Jun2019%2F

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:53 am
by OA260
Returned on the B789 with ET the other day. Had originally been a B788 then changed. Flight was 100% full and the majority were football fans many who were connecting at DUB back to the UK. Was great to experience the new cabin which is very nice. Crew and onboard service again very good. On arrival into DUB lots of spotters lined both sides of the runway. One dedicated guy standing on the roof of a transit van to get the best pics! Thats dedication :). Thanks to the Anetter who got a pic of my aircraft landing nice to have.

There was quite a line of aircraft waiting to get stands that hour of the morning including ours. Passport control in T1 was not bad at all and the new E Gates were open. I used my passport card ok but it only works if you put in on the scanner the right way as explained to me by one of the helpers. It would have been better to have a passport card sized slot to put it in as I can see many not used to it wasting time putting it in the wrong side or wrong way up. Basically the card is best placed in the back left side of the scanner glass with front of card face up as the scanner reads the back of the card. ( according to the helper ) anyway it worked fine so must be the case. Maybe a few signs up at the E Gate might be useful until people get used to them.


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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:41 pm
by aerdingus
[quote="OA260"]Flew on the new 5th Freedom DUB-MAD with ET. Aircraft was changed to a 77L due to being full of Liverpool fans on the inbound. Have to say it was an excellent flight and highly recommend it to fellow Anetters.

I can't wait! I obviously won't be in J ha. Bidding for upgrade doesn't seem possible

Re: Irish 6/19: Dublin's bubblin' ...

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:59 pm
by OA260
aerdingus wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Flew on the new 5th Freedom DUB-MAD with ET. Aircraft was changed to a 77L due to being full of Liverpool fans on the inbound. Have to say it was an excellent flight and highly recommend it to fellow Anetters.

I can't wait! I obviously won't be in J ha. Bidding for upgrade doesn't seem possible


No not valid on this short hop sadly . Let us know how you get on and what they offer food wise.

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Irish airport passenger numbers rise by 7.1% in Q1

More than 7.4 million passengers passed through the five main Irish airports in the first quarter of this year, an increase of 7.1% over the same time last year.

New figures from the Central Statistics Office show that passenger numbers increased in Cork, Dublin, Kerry and Knock, while passenger numbers decreased in Shannon.

The CSO noted that Dublin airport accounted for 87.2% of all air passengers handled in the first quarter of 2019.

www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0606/1053 ... tatistics/

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:49 pm
by EI121
Flying out of DUB this morning and noticed that the EY lounge has finally shut. Sad sight as it was the best lounge at DUB.

It will be replaced by a new lounge catering for ‘East’ carriers as reported by Fora earlier in the year. : https://fora.ie/dublin-airport-east-lou ... 6-Feb2019/

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:51 pm
by Skyblue39
The inaugural AA flight out of Dallas to Dublin AA132 leaves DFW tonight, arriving tomorrow Friday into DUB at 13:50 and departing back to Dallas at 15:45. Looking forward to being on this direct service in early August!

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:03 pm
by alancostello
Skyblue39 wrote:
The inaugural AA flight out of Dallas to Dublin AA132 leaves DFW tonight, arriving tomorrow Friday into DUB at 13:50 and departing back to Dallas at 15:45. Looking forward to being on this direct service in early August!


Doesn't get in to DFW until 7:25, seems pretty late, any delays might be problematic for connecting pax.

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:50 pm
by OA260
EI121 wrote:
Flying out of DUB this morning and noticed that the EY lounge has finally shut. Sad sight as it was the best lounge at DUB.

It will be replaced by a new lounge catering for ‘East’ carriers as reported by Fora earlier in the year. : https://fora.ie/dublin-airport-east-lou ... 6-Feb2019/


It was the best lounge for sure especially the catering with proper hot meals etc.. I was in it a few times over the years and great staff also. Sadly its days were numbered for a while now and I am surprised it lasted as long as it did. Its a continued down trend in the EY product generally in what was once a wonderful product even in Y.

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:48 pm
by cumulushumilis
Hey Dublin,
YYC here.. Howdy from Western Canada. I think we sent you guys a 787 last Saturday. WS6? Anybody happen to notice it? It being an inaugural and all, I thought you folks out there would be all over it.. But nobody has mentioned it. You guys are more excited by an A321. I know we are all excited out here because of it being the first scheduled service between the two cities. You guys get to visit the mountains and we’ll get a reliable supply of Guinness. It’s a win win.. WS has the new business class product on it. Can’t wait to visit without having to connect.

Love Calgary..

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:22 pm
by Skyblue39
cumulushumilis wrote:
Hey Dublin,
YYC here.. Howdy from Western Canada. I think we sent you guys a 787 last Saturday. WS6? Anybody happen to notice it? It being an inaugural and all, I thought you folks out there would be all over it.. But nobody has mentioned it. You guys are more excited by an A321. I know we are all excited out here because of it being the first scheduled service between the two cities. You guys get to visit the mountains and we’ll get a reliable supply of Guinness. It’s a win win.. WS has the new business class product on it. Can’t wait to visit without having to connect.

Love Calgary..


I mentioned it in our previous thread! I actually saw the 789 parked today at the Pier in Dublin at the 100 gates. I saw the crew going through Passport Control in fact! Really love the updated livery on this a/c - extremely slick! I previously flew on the WS Dublin - St. John’s route on the 737-700, I would love to try the new service to Calgary! Hope it does well, thanks for the check-in and we hope to see you soon in the Emerald Isle!

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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:24 pm
by SuperSix2
cumulushumilis wrote:
Hey Dublin,
YYC here.. Howdy from Western Canada. I think we sent you guys a 787 last Saturday. WS6? Anybody happen to notice it? It being an inaugural and all, I thought you folks out there would be all over it.. But nobody has mentioned it. You guys are more excited by an A321. I know we are all excited out here because of it being the first scheduled service between the two cities. You guys get to visit the mountains and we’ll get a reliable supply of Guinness. It’s a win win.. WS has the new business class product on it. Can’t wait to visit without having to connect.

Love Calgary..


WS6 most definitely didn't arrive un-noticed.. Have a look here https://m.facebook.com/groups/379789668 ... =bookmarks
We do like our 321's but The Spirit of Canada stole the show that day!

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:33 am
by IrishTexan
First ever AA132 DFW to DUB being operated by N839AA just pushed back at 11.15pm and was airborne 11.29pm.
Happy trails...

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:39 am
by VFRonTop
EI121 wrote:
Flying out of DUB this morning and noticed that the EY lounge has finally shut. Sad sight as it was the best lounge at DUB.

It will be replaced by a new lounge catering for ‘East’ carriers as reported by Fora earlier in the year. : https://fora.ie/dublin-airport-east-lou ... 6-Feb2019/


Oneworld are also progressing their lounge concept with three lounges being considered for 2020. I do hope Dublin is on the short list, there is a lot of OW activity at DUB and the lounge offering is... limited.

Article from AusBT

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:02 am
by BrianDromey
VFRonTop wrote:
EI121 wrote:
Flying out of DUB this morning and noticed that the EY lounge has finally shut. Sad sight as it was the best lounge at DUB.

It will be replaced by a new lounge catering for ‘East’ carriers as reported by Fora earlier in the year. : https://fora.ie/dublin-airport-east-lou ... 6-Feb2019/


Oneworld are also progressing their lounge concept with three lounges being considered for 2020. I do hope Dublin is on the short list, there is a lot of OW activity at DUB and the lounge offering is... limited.

Article from AusBT



I guess it’s unlikely, as EI would be expected to join in some capacity soon. They specifically exclude opening lounges where one member has a large capacity, presumably that expands to where a OW airline has a lounge of its own.

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:20 am
by NiallS
VFRonTop wrote:
EI121 wrote:
Flying out of DUB this morning and noticed that the EY lounge has finally shut. Sad sight as it was the best lounge at DUB.

It will be replaced by a new lounge catering for ‘East’ carriers as reported by Fora earlier in the year. : https://fora.ie/dublin-airport-east-lou ... 6-Feb2019/


Oneworld are also progressing their lounge concept with three lounges being considered for 2020. I do hope Dublin is on the short list, there is a lot of OW activity at DUB and the lounge offering is... limited.

Article from AusBT


A Star Alliance lounge would make more sense. There's quite a long list of Star Alliance carriers at DUB: Air Canada, Lufthansa, Swiss, SAS, TAP, Aegean, Croatia Airlines, Ethiopian and Turkish Airlines. There's United as well but they're Terminal 2.

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:46 am
by eirflot
DUB tends to be an after thought with some airlines. Almost like the poor relation
Take LH to Frankfurt. The arrival gates at Frankfurt are always the most inconvenient and usually a bus trip away making connections difficult
There are good loads in business from DUB very few ancillary services - otherwise why would EI start Aer Space, and that will further squeeze the already limited services!

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:09 am
by OA260
NiallS wrote:
VFRonTop wrote:
EI121 wrote:
Flying out of DUB this morning and noticed that the EY lounge has finally shut. Sad sight as it was the best lounge at DUB.

It will be replaced by a new lounge catering for ‘East’ carriers as reported by Fora earlier in the year. : https://fora.ie/dublin-airport-east-lou ... 6-Feb2019/


Oneworld are also progressing their lounge concept with three lounges being considered for 2020. I do hope Dublin is on the short list, there is a lot of OW activity at DUB and the lounge offering is... limited.

Article from AusBT


A Star Alliance lounge would make more sense. There's quite a long list of Star Alliance carriers at DUB: Air Canada, Lufthansa, Swiss, SAS, TAP, Aegean, Croatia Airlines, Ethiopian and Turkish Airlines. There's United as well but they're Terminal 2.


It seems less likely now and space is an issue. Star Alliance would need to dig deep and Im not sure they want to pump in that kind of investment currently.

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:31 am
by BrianDromey
Will the DAA even lease space to 3rd party or airlines for Lounge Space? I suspect they don’t want to. Elsewhere Etihad partnered with No1 to develop “The House”. No sign of this in Dublin.

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:31 pm
by OA260
Celebrations at the gate for DUB-DFW


Image

www.twitter.com/dublinairport

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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:04 pm
by JAmie2k9
EI154/EI155 (LHR) showing first scheduled A321LR from 1 November.

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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:31 pm
by AmricanShamrok
What’s the likelihood of one of the SNN-based A321LRs being used on the early-morning (EI380/EI381) rotation? This would free up an A320 to be used elsewhere and the afternoon/evening SNN-LHR flights could be operated on a W-pattern from DUB. The downside to this of course would probably lead to downsizing of the EI crew base at SNN.

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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:00 am
by JAmie2k9
AmricanShamrok wrote:
What’s the likelihood of one of the SNN-based A321LRs being used on the early-morning (EI380/EI381) rotation? This would free up an A320 to be used elsewhere and the afternoon/evening SNN-LHR flights could be operated on a W-pattern from DUB. The downside to this of course would probably lead to downsizing of the EI crew base at SNN.


My thinking is they might use A321 on early LHR and fly A320 to AGP/FAO instead. It would likely require the latest US departure (JFK?) to be pushed out by 60-90 mins to make it work.

W from DUB wouldn't really fit with slots.

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:18 am
by EINA320
AmricanShamrok wrote:
What’s the likelihood of one of the SNN-based A321LRs being used on the early-morning (EI380/EI381) rotation? This would free up an A320 to be used elsewhere and the afternoon/evening SNN-LHR flights could be operated on a W-pattern from DUB. The downside to this of course would probably lead to downsizing of the EI crew base at SNN.


Are there any plans for EI to open a pilot base at SNN. It wouldn’t have been practical in previous years with different type ratings between the A320 and 757/A330 but with the common type rating and little difference between the A320 and A321LR it would seem practical to open a pilot base there as opposed to transporting DUB or even ORK based pilots to SNN and have them flying out of there for a week or so?
For example, they could roster the pilots like the cabin crew. Days 1 and 2 and could be say one reserve day and 1 day of double LHR and then 3-5 would be a trip to either JFK or BOS.

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:58 am
by OA260
Loganair in discussion to agree codeshare with Aer Lingus

Scottish regional carrier hopes agreement can be active from fourth quarter

Scottish regional carrier Loganair is in discussions with Aer Lingus to come to an arrangement whereby both could publish and market each other’s flights.

The arrangement, known as a codeshare, is a common one in the aviation industry which means that customers of Loganair, for example, could effectively start their journey on a Loganair flight and continue onto Aer Lingus’s transatlantic network.

The move comes as the Scottish carrier gears up to launch flights from Carlisle Lake District Airport to Dublin from next month. It will also fly from the airport to Belfast and London Southend.

A spokesman told The Irish Times that the carrier hopes to have a codeshare agreement with Aer Lingus active by the fourth quarter of 2019.

Carlisle Airport is owned and operated by the Stobart Group, which until recently competed directly with Loganair through its regional airline business.

However, Stobart has effectively reduced its interest in the regional air business by selling a large portion of its stake to a consortium set up in 2018 to acquire British regional airline Flybe.

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... -1.3919940

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:00 am
by OA260
More passport e-readers for Dublin Airport in bid to cut delays

DAA says it has not been asked to segregate passengers from CTA and rest of world to ease queues
New electronic passport readers will be in place at both terminals in Dublin Airport from Tuesday in an attempt to significantly reduce delays at immigration control.

However, as airport infrastructure continues to make it impossible to segregate passengers arriving from domestic airports and the Common Travel Area (CTA) from those flying in from the rest of the world, passenger congestion looks set to remain a feature of the airport at peak times.

Delays of up to an hour were reported over the June bank holiday weekend by passengers making their way through the airport arrivals halls, with some suggesting on social media that the cause of the delays were reduced staffing levels at immigration booths.

The Department of Justice insisted that “all immigration booths were manned during the congestion period”. However, a spokesman conceded that on occasion an immigration officer was required “to step out of the booth to conduct further investigations with primarily non-EU passengers”.

Documentation

A third of all the passengers who come into Dublin Airport each year are from the UK and under the rules governing the CTA – made up of the UK, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and Ireland – they should be able to travel freely without showing any documentation.

However, Dublin Airport’s design means passengers from the CTA – and even ones arriving from other airports in the Republic – must go through passport control. By contrast Irish passengers who fly into UK airports do not have to go through passport control.

www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/trave ... -1.3920014

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:55 pm
by ClassicLover
OA260 wrote:
DAA says it has not been asked to segregate passengers from CTA and rest of world to ease queues

However, as airport infrastructure continues to make it impossible to segregate passengers arriving from domestic airports and the Common Travel Area (CTA) from those flying in from the rest of the world, passenger congestion looks set to remain a feature of the airport at peak times.

A third of all the passengers who come into Dublin Airport each year are from the UK and under the rules governing the CTA – made up of the UK, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and Ireland – they should be able to travel freely without showing any documentation.

However, Dublin Airport’s design means passengers from the CTA – and even ones arriving from other airports in the Republic – must go through passport control. By contrast Irish passengers who fly into UK airports do not have to go through passport control.


I found it very interesting indeed that DAA has not been "asked" to segregate passengers. Since the volume is so high, it sounds like a decent fix, though I do agree that it would be hideously expensive to implement. Unless they put everyone on buses, which would be carnage.

Can't see it changing at DUB anytime in the near future. The time to have done this would have been quite a while ago now.

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:22 pm
by shamrock321
I flew with EI/WX yesterday from DUB-LCY. An hour delayed due to last minute aircraft change but this wasn’t communicated until well after it became obvious we were not leaving on time. Boarding was so slow, one EI agent who appeared to be gate checking most wheelie bags. Aircraft was in CityJet livery with no EI menus or magazines loaded. It all seemed quite shabby. Crew onboard however were lovely.

T2 was a breeze and security was quick, and even though we then had to walk to T1 for boarding we definitely saved time as when passing T1 security it was the queues here were much much longer!

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:41 pm
by tonystan
ClassicLover wrote:
OA260 wrote:

Can't see it changing at DUB anytime in the near future. The time to have done this would have been quite a while ago now.


I feel like it could be relatively simple to implement. As someone who worked in the airport in the late 90s and early 00’s I remember the old system quite well, especially pier B where arriving passengers from the UK where channeled away from passport checks.

I think at T1 they could just place all CTA arrivals into the 200s/A gates and create a bypass. Is there a requirement for all CTA arrivals to be segregated from departure area? Of not this could be an avenue for T2 also.

I feel the ability is there but the will to do it not so much!