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The paint job on -ZND added around an extra 100 kilograms (220 pounds) of additional weight.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:37 pm

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WTF. Three times longer to disembark, and even more fun if it's raining. Why no airbridges?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:59 pm

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A friend has received an email from Virgin stating that there will be a number of LAX rotation cancellations due to a damaged 777, likely to go on til after July 4. Anyone know what happened?


I have come across the adjusted flight schedule for LAX flights from the 21 June through to 4 July. Only 2 flights have been cancelled. From today the only route effected is BNE.

VA8 LAX-BNE is cancelled on 2 July

VA7 BNE-LAX new schedule for all flights through to 4 July now departing 1805 instead of 1105 and arriving in LAX at 1410 instead of 710
VA8 LAX-BNE new schedule is 905 departure instead of 2230 the night before and arriving in BNE at 1605 instead of 530
VA6 LAX-BNE on 3 July will operate same time as rescheduled VA8

Prior to today VA24 LAX-MEL was cancelled on the 22nd June

21 June VA24 LAX-MEL retimed
23 June VA23 MEL-LAX and VA8 LAX-BNE retimed plus additional VA26 LAX-MEL added
24 June VA23/8 retimed

Overall to only cancel 2 flights with a 77W down is a pretty good result, it could be a lot worse
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:36 pm

qf789 wrote:
PJ01 wrote:
A friend has received an email from Virgin stating that there will be a number of LAX rotation cancellations due to a damaged 777, likely to go on til after July 4. Anyone know what happened?


I have come across the adjusted flight schedule for LAX flights from the 21 June through to 4 July. Only 2 flights have been cancelled. From today the only route effected is BNE.

VA8 LAX-BNE is cancelled on 2 July

VA7 BNE-LAX new schedule for all flights through to 4 July now departing 1805 instead of 1105 and arriving in LAX at 1410 instead of 710
VA8 LAX-BNE new schedule is 905 departure instead of 2230 the night before and arriving in BNE at 1605 instead of 530
VA6 LAX-BNE on 3 July will operate same time as rescheduled VA8

Prior to today VA24 LAX-MEL was cancelled on the 22nd June

21 June VA24 LAX-MEL retimed
23 June VA23 MEL-LAX and VA8 LAX-BNE retimed plus additional VA26 LAX-MEL added
24 June VA23/8 retimed

Overall to only cancel 2 flights with a 77W down is a pretty good result, it could be a lot worse


Thanks!! Yes, they've certainly done well to only cancel the two flights, well done VA!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:53 pm

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TasFlyer wrote:


WTF. Three times longer to disembark, and even more fun if it's raining. Why no airbridges?

PA515


The reason is the operator of the airport is cheap and doesn't want to put money into the airport. The airport still doesn't have proper taxiways.

The problem with Australian airports is that most of them are effectively a monopoly, so when they were privatised, a lack of effective controls placed on the operators. So you have a situation where the operators make a whole lot of money from the airport and they keep investment to a minimum to maximise their returns.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:05 am

I just read an article (below) about QF 747 points planes. Anyone have more info?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-considers-boeing-747-points-plane-for-frequent-flyers
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:24 am

^^My understanding was that the airlines didn't want aerobridges: expence, logistics, etc. This has been discussed in a previous Aussie thread.
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:18 am

Regarding the JAL service to MEL, have they swapped equipment to a 2-class 788 lately? I cannot find any availability in PE over the upcoming weeks, which is strange. Flew them in PE last year (all the way to HEL via NRT) and it was a great product and cost was lower than SQ, CX etc.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:37 am

HM7 wrote:
I just read an article (below) about QF 747 points planes. Anyone have more info?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-considers-boeing-747-points-plane-for-frequent-flyers


Probably no more info at this stage as there is nothing from Qantas but according to my partner who is a journalist, the use of "Australian Business Traveller understands" is like a 'code' for being told something 'on background' by airline PR when they don't want to make an official comment. I would imagine QF are planning a lot of B747 retirement activity, probably looking closely at what SQ, CX, UA and others did around their own B747 retirement, and will roll out the details when they have all their ducks in a row. Probably a B747 Points Plane SYD-PER and MEL-PER and BNE-PER? Maybe they could even do a B747 Points Plane over the antarctic, now that would be cool.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:09 am

HM7 wrote:
I just read an article (below) about QF 747 points planes. Anyone have more info?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-considers-boeing-747-points-plane-for-frequent-flyers

I'm positive that I saw an item on Airline Route yesterday which listed some domestic 747 sectors QF was planning to operate in the near future. However, the item seems now to have been removed from Airline Route - perhaps the announcement was premature.

To be honest, I didn't pay too much attention to the exact sectors or the dates involved, but I recall that ADL, SYD, MEL and BNE were all involved. Maybe PER as well, though (as I say) I didn't pay too much attention.
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:06 am

I saw that as well, sometime last month? It was reported on a few aviation sites, maybe check Australian Aviation?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:58 am

DavidByrne wrote:
HM7 wrote:
I just read an article (below) about QF 747 points planes. Anyone have more info?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-considers-boeing-747-points-plane-for-frequent-flyers

I'm positive that I saw an item on Airline Route yesterday which listed some domestic 747 sectors QF was planning to operate in the near future. However, the item seems now to have been removed from Airline Route - perhaps the announcement was premature.

To be honest, I didn't pay too much attention to the exact sectors or the dates involved, but I recall that ADL, SYD, MEL and BNE were all involved. Maybe PER as well, though (as I say) I didn't pay too much attention.


Those are domestic ‘positioning’ sectors for Antarctic charters.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:14 pm

A350OZ wrote:
Regarding the JAL service to MEL, have they swapped equipment to a 2-class 788 lately? I cannot find any availability in PE over the upcoming weeks, which is strange. Flew them in PE last year (all the way to HEL via NRT) and it was a great product and cost was lower than SQ, CX etc.

No, still 3 class birds (JA836J onwards). JAL website also lists Melbourne as a SkySuite I route, which corresponds to a three-class 787-8.

Given JAL is known to sell W well in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if some groups or stuff occupied the entire W cabin.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:25 pm

ZK-NBT wrote:
DavidByrne wrote:
HM7 wrote:
I just read an article (below) about QF 747 points planes. Anyone have more info?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-considers-boeing-747-points-plane-for-frequent-flyers

I'm positive that I saw an item on Airline Route yesterday which listed some domestic 747 sectors QF was planning to operate in the near future. However, the item seems now to have been removed from Airline Route - perhaps the announcement was premature.

To be honest, I didn't pay too much attention to the exact sectors or the dates involved, but I recall that ADL, SYD, MEL and BNE were all involved. Maybe PER as well, though (as I say) I didn't pay too much attention.


Those are domestic ‘positioning’ sectors for Antarctic charters.


Link here https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-in-nw19/
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:28 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
A350OZ wrote:
Regarding the JAL service to MEL, have they swapped equipment to a 2-class 788 lately? I cannot find any availability in PE over the upcoming weeks, which is strange. Flew them in PE last year (all the way to HEL via NRT) and it was a great product and cost was lower than SQ, CX etc.

No, still 3 class birds (JA836J onwards). JAL website also lists Melbourne as a SkySuite I route, which corresponds to a three-class 787-8.

Given JAL is known to sell W well in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if some groups or stuff occupied the entire W cabin.

Michael


Nope~

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PY only on sale for 31 March to 5 June... Otherwise JL 774 is C・Y only!

https://www.jal.co.jp/inter/route/time/ ... 1_0831.pdf

JL's W is fine but not as good as QF given their food in W is same as Y. Their Y in 787 is much much better than what QF or anyone else can offer though.
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:28 pm

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Nope~

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3/31~4/7 ➡00:35–08:35
[クラス Class]3/31~5/6➡C・PY・Y

PY only on sale for 31 March to 5 June... Otherwise JL 774 is C・Y only!

https://www.jal.co.jp/inter/route/time/ ... 1_0831.pdf

JL's W is fine but not as good as QF given their food in W is same as Y. Their Y in 787 is much much better than what QF or anyone else can offer though.

Well, since your username suggests we should throw hard data, here're two observations:

- JL773/4 are operated by three class birds. The usage of three class birds at least for the last 7 days - planes rostered include JA838J, JA839J, JA841J, JA843J and JA844J. All of them are three class birds as explained before.
- Melbourne being listed as a destination with Sky Suite I: https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/service/ ... suite.html None of the two-class 787-8 has Sky Suite I.

It might be the case where JAL decided to block the W class' sale (and instead selling them as Y class) in order to maximise revenue potential but this doesn't mean it's the two-class birds that operates JL773/4, which I believe is what A350OZ wants to know.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:44 pm

Can confirm that JL773/774 are presently being operated by two-class frames. Have flown both of these flights in the last two weeks, and on both occasions the aircraft operating the services (JA838J for both flights) was definitely sans-PE. JAL's website does indeed confirm that there are two-class, Sky Suite-equipped B787-8's in service. Please see configuration E12.

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/787.html
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:09 pm

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Anybody know why TT758 was delayed 14hrs 40mins on the 20th?


I have been able to find some more information about this flight. It suffered a technical issue with the left engine on arrival into PER, apparently rather than initially cancel the flight they just kept on delaying the flight. Bags were loaded and unloaded onto the aircraft twice. It was rescheduled to depart PER just after 1400 but eventually got cancelled. At some point the aircraft was towed to the VARA hangar which is located on the southern end of T2. The flight was at some point cancelled and in the end the flight positioned empty back to SYD.
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:11 pm

budgetflyer wrote:
Can confirm that JL773/774 are presently being operated by two-class frames. Have flown both of these flights in the last two weeks, and on both occasions the aircraft operating the services (JA838J for both flights) was definitely sans-PE. JAL's website does indeed confirm that there are two-class, Sky Suite-equipped B787-8's in service. Please see configuration E12.

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/787.html


Thank you, that would certainly explain it. I did not realise they had 2-class Sky Suite I 788s, but seems they do. Is this a new addition/re-config?

What a bummer though, it was a decent product with good connectivity at NRT to HEL and FRA (on the way over at least).

downdata wrote:
JL's W is fine but not as good as QF given their food in W is same as Y. Their Y in 787 is much much better than what QF or anyone else can offer though.


That is certainly true (and I went to Japan two weeks ago in QF W on SYD-HND), but being MEL-based there are 1) not that many options given the dominance of the A333 sans W-cabin on many Asian flights, and 2) QF's pricing is just obscene. I am looking at particular dates in 6-8 weeks for a trip to Europe (and I am reasonably flexible which port I fly in and out of, but preferably LHR, CDG or FRA), but QF PE all the way via PER or SIN is $6,200 return (!!). Can get good options on CX or SQ around the $3,800 to $4,800 mark, but I am just not a big fan of CX's W product, and would prefer to collect SCs on OW airlines. JL last year was ~$3,600, hence was hoping for a similar deal.

As good as QF's soft product is, it's not worth such a premium (and I take the spacious 42" W seat of JL over QF's cramped 789 W any day).
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:17 pm

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That is certainly true (and I went to Japan two weeks ago in QF W on SYD-HND), but being MEL-based there are 1) not that many options given the dominance of the A333 sans W-cabin on many Asian flights, and 2) QF's pricing is just obscene. I am looking at particular dates in 6-8 weeks for a trip to Europe (and I am reasonably flexible which port I fly in and out of, but preferably LHR, CDG or FRA), but QF PE all the way via PER or SIN is $6,200 return (!!). Can get good options on CX or SQ around the $3,800 to $4,800 mark, but I am just not a big fan of CX's W product, and would prefer to collect SCs on OW airlines. JL last year was ~$3,600, hence was hoping for a similar deal.

As good as QF's soft product is, it's not worth such a premium (and I take the spacious 42" W seat of JL over QF's cramped 789 W any day).


If hard product is important, I’d just fly MU/CZ/VN...etc in J for 4-6k, which is about the same price as W on SQ but you get a lie flat bed instead of sitting in a seat for 20hrs...
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:40 pm

downdata wrote:
A350OZ wrote:

That is certainly true (and I went to Japan two weeks ago in QF W on SYD-HND), but being MEL-based there are 1) not that many options given the dominance of the A333 sans W-cabin on many Asian flights, and 2) QF's pricing is just obscene. I am looking at particular dates in 6-8 weeks for a trip to Europe (and I am reasonably flexible which port I fly in and out of, but preferably LHR, CDG or FRA), but QF PE all the way via PER or SIN is $6,200 return (!!). Can get good options on CX or SQ around the $3,800 to $4,800 mark, but I am just not a big fan of CX's W product, and would prefer to collect SCs on OW airlines. JL last year was ~$3,600, hence was hoping for a similar deal.

As good as QF's soft product is, it's not worth such a premium (and I take the spacious 42" W seat of JL over QF's cramped 789 W any day).


If hard product is important, I’d just fly MU/CZ/VN...etc in J for 4-6k, which is about the same price as W on SQ but you get a lie flat bed instead of sitting in a seat for 20hrs...


Thanks and I would certainly consider that, but it's a work trip and W is what I am allowed to fly (but even then, not at any cost if there are quality alternatives, which is fair enough).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:00 am

budgetflyer wrote:
Can confirm that JL773/774 are presently being operated by two-class frames. Have flown both of these flights in the last two weeks, and on both occasions the aircraft operating the services (JA838J for both flights) was definitely sans-PE. JAL's website does indeed confirm that there are two-class, Sky Suite-equipped B787-8's in service. Please see configuration E12.

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/787.html

Oh, you caught me up on this! Thanks, this must be new.

Looks like JL finally realised the Y count is too small when divided into three class.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:54 am

qf789 wrote:
777Jet wrote:
Anybody know why TT758 was delayed 14hrs 40mins on the 20th?


I have been able to find some more information about this flight. It suffered a technical issue with the left engine on arrival into PER, apparently rather than initially cancel the flight they just kept on delaying the flight. Bags were loaded and unloaded onto the aircraft twice. It was rescheduled to depart PER just after 1400 but eventually got cancelled. At some point the aircraft was towed to the VARA hangar which is located on the southern end of T2. The flight was at some point cancelled and in the end the flight positioned empty back to SYD.


Thanks for that. A girl I know was on that flight and when she told me about the 14hr+ delay I was surprised. I guess these thing happen. Luckily she had travel insurance to help cover the inconvenience.
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:55 am

VA cancels all flights to GET

Few weeks later... QF increases flights to GET


https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/air- ... 881242157z
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:46 am

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VA cancels all flights to GET

Few weeks later... QF increases flights to GET


https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/air- ... 881242157z


Im assuming there is still a net seat reduction though?
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:26 am

qf2220 wrote:
waoz1 wrote:
VA cancels all flights to GET

Few weeks later... QF increases flights to GET


https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/air- ... 881242157z


Im assuming there is still a net seat reduction though?


There would be, yeah - VA has something like 7 flights per week.
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:02 am

Just saw an FJ 330 at MEL this afternoon. Have they upgraded the NAN service and re-timed it or is this just a seasonal addition for holidays?
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:59 am

eamondzhang wrote:
A350OZ wrote:
Regarding the JAL service to MEL, have they swapped equipment to a 2-class 788 lately? I cannot find any availability in PE over the upcoming weeks, which is strange. Flew them in PE last year (all the way to HEL via NRT) and it was a great product and cost was lower than SQ, CX etc.

No, still 3 class birds (JA836J onwards). JAL website also lists Melbourne as a SkySuite I route, which corresponds to a three-class 787-8.

Given JAL is known to sell W well in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if some groups or stuff occupied the entire W cabin.

Michael

Aren’t all of JAL’s long haul business seats branded Sky Suite, just differentiated with a numerical?
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:22 am

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Just saw an FJ 330 at MEL this afternoon. Have they upgraded the NAN service and re-timed it or is this just a seasonal addition for holidays?

It is due to the 737MAX Grounding they have been sending A330's to cover along with leased 737s
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 am

JQ321 wrote:
ben175 wrote:
Just saw an FJ 330 at MEL this afternoon. Have they upgraded the NAN service and re-timed it or is this just a seasonal addition for holidays?

It is due to the 737MAX Grounding they have been sending A330's to cover along with leased 737s


What have they been using to ADL? Can an NG 737 make NAN-ADL without heavy weight restrictions.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:56 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
waoz1 wrote:
VA cancels all flights to GET

Few weeks later... QF increases flights to GET


https://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/air- ... 881242157z


Im assuming there is still a net seat reduction though?


There would be, yeah - VA has something like 7 flights per week.


As I stated when it was first announced, PER-GET would be better off with REX serving it, they have the right sized aircraft, PER-GET is not a pot of gold and I am surprised QF is increasing flights, I am not totally convinced that there is a need to at this stage and well if the cheapest fare is $180 one way it probably cheaper to drive there.
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:03 am

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Just saw an FJ 330 at MEL this afternoon. Have they upgraded the NAN service and re-timed it or is this just a seasonal addition for holidays?

Think they have an additional FJ934/5 for a while - if my memory serves it's from last season (W18/19).

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Aren’t all of JAL’s long haul business seats branded Sky Suite, just differentiated with a numerical?

Yeah but different SkySuite's means different hardwares - B/E "coffin seats" (SkySuite I) on 788/789/77W, Vantage on 767 (SkySuite II) and Zodiac Cirrus on 772/789 (SkySuite III).

They also used to send a sloppy seat (angled flat seat) to SAN but haven't got time to check if it's swapped out.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:16 am

After a review MEL has announced it will extend the consultation period for the third runway. This extension relates to a rethink whether the third runway may actually be a parallel N-S runway insteas of the E-W parallel previously preferred. No final decision has been made but there is no doubt the N-S option will have less noise footprint issues due to less suburban development in the key arrival and approach areas. https://www.melbourneairport.com.au/Corporate/News/Melbourne-Airport-announces-review-of-runway-propo A final decison is still expected by the end of the year.
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:21 am

VA seems to be getting a bit of its old Virgin Blue cheekiness with this ad it has put up near SYD poking gentle fun at QF's changes to its frequent flyer scheme. http://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/virgin-mocks-qantas-with-huge-news-billboard/
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:22 am

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After a review MEL has announced it will extend the consultation period for the third runway. This extension relates to a rethink whether the third runway may actually be a parallel N-S runway insteas of the E-W parallel previously preferred. No final decision has been made but there is no doubt the N-S option will have less noise footprint issues due to less suburban development in the key arrival and approach areas. https://www.melbourneairport.com.au/Corporate/News/Melbourne-Airport-announces-review-of-runway-propo A final decison is still expected by the end of the year.


Surely this means the new runway will not be operational by 2023 as previously indicated?
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:33 am

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After a review MEL has announced it will extend the consultation period for the third runway. This extension relates to a rethink whether the third runway may actually be a parallel N-S runway insteas of the E-W parallel previously preferred. No final decision has been made but there is no doubt the N-S option will have less noise footprint issues due to less suburban development in the key arrival and approach areas. https://www.melbourneairport.com.au/Corporate/News/Melbourne-Airport-announces-review-of-runway-propo A final decison is still expected by the end of the year.


Surely this means the new runway will not be operational by 2023 as previously indicated?

Correct, new date is 2025
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:13 am

qf789 wrote:
DeltaB717 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:

Im assuming there is still a net seat reduction though?


There would be, yeah - VA has something like 7 flights per week.


As I stated when it was first announced, PER-GET would be better off with REX serving it, they have the right sized aircraft, PER-GET is not a pot of gold and I am surprised QF is increasing flights, I am not totally convinced that there is a need to at this stage and well if the cheapest fare is $180 one way it probably cheaper to drive there.


Memories! I used to fly BNE-PER-GET return each week with QF for 6 months around 8 years ago on a project - madness. It was a hard slog and I always commented it would be quicker and easier to fly to anywhere in Asia. I couldn't get a connection all the way through on a Sunday avo so overnighted PER. Coming back was a ~9 hour marathon. PER-GET was very rarely full but I remember the prices were very high. Sounds like things haven't changed.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:02 am

tullamarine wrote:
VA seems to be getting a bit of its old Virgin Blue cheekiness with this ad it has put up near SYD poking gentle fun at QF's changes to its frequent flyer scheme. http://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/virgin-mocks-qantas-with-huge-news-billboard/


I hope that billboard and creative didn't cost them very much because it's a classic 'talking to the choir' play, this ad doesn't really tell you anything about Velocity and doesn't incite interest from potential 'switchers', it just makes existing Velocity members feel a bit happy and smug, and I think they would prefer the money on a campaign like this be spent on more practical things!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:40 am

John Travolta's luxury Boeing 707 cleared for November relocation to Wollongong

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/john ... fmredir=sm



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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:50 am

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Thank you for this link and news. Another article below said that a passenger ended up in hospital after falling down the stairs. This does not surprise me unfortunately.

When I arrived and departed HBA for the first time last year I already knew there were no aerobridges in place. The stairs on two occasions were slippery because of the rain, or the showery drizzle, which can be more treacherous, especially at night. When we disembarked the 747 last November, there was a canopy over the steep stair, and it was dark - and drizzling.

I recall it being slippery. I had a close call of nearly slipping down at the top, taking about three other people with me, who were much older and less mobile than me. What a disastrous end to a memorable trip that would have been. I am sure some other pax would have been very nervous about the disembarkation even in the first instance. Mine was coupled with excitement which was working against me here.

Catering for around 360 pax who had been on a plane for twelve hours, many whom were tired, had consumed some alcohol and needed to adjust their balance to solid ground once again, it was not ideal. For the record, I did enquire about further 747 flights to HBA as there are none scheduled this year, and the reply was, not for the foreseeable future. This has more to do with the runway I understand it than comfort and accessibility of the pax though.


Excerpt from the above mentioned article:

“The graduating slope means wheelchair and walking-frame users are able to navigate the ramps reducing and, in some cases, eliminating the need to use the lift," he said. “It also allows passengers to wheel carry-on luggage on and off the plane, making the passenger journey to and from the aircraft easier for all travellers."

The airport boss confirmed the ramps will only be used for embark and disembark at the front of aircrafts - those loading/unloading from the back will still need to use stairs. A passenger was hospitalised in March, when he fell down a set of access stairs - amplifying the need for more safety.

The ramps are expected to have arrived and be in operation in time for the summer season. It's raised questions about whether aero-bridges will be used at Hobart Airport, something that has been flagged as a possibility as it pushes for international flights.

These ramps will also have canopies so will provide weather protection. They're a more viable option than the aero-bridges."

Source: https://www.tastalks.com.au/newsroom/ta ... buys-ramps



DPO has had one ramp for the Q400 for a few years now - it is the best thing ever! It just fits perfectly with this airport and its flight ops IMHO.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:36 pm

Can someone give any info on the rather large amount of diverted arrivals into SYD this morning? QF12 (3hrs late) and 8 (2hrs late) were both diverted to BNE with QF12 having only just arrived
Edit: And QF74 predicted 4 hrs late from SFO also via BNE
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:39 pm

Ellofiend wrote:
Can someone give any info on the rather large amount of diverted arrivals into SYD this morning? QF12 (3hrs late) and 8 (2hrs late) were both diverted to BNE with QF12 having only just arrived


I’m not sure if it occurred but fog was forecast and low visibility ops were in place for a while. Would have at least slowed movements and they couldn’t hold.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:45 pm

Sydney been covered in thick fog this morning with QF74, QF8, QF12, VA2, & CX111 diverting to BNE.

Appears the fog is beginning to clear.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:33 am

^^and 19 cancellations on the MEL-SYD-MEL corridor.
http://theqantassource.com/28-06-19-qan ... more-40084
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:40 am

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JQ321 wrote:
ben175 wrote:
Just saw an FJ 330 at MEL this afternoon. Have they upgraded the NAN service and re-timed it or is this just a seasonal addition for holidays?

It is due to the 737MAX Grounding they have been sending A330's to cover along with leased 737s


What have they been using to ADL? Can an NG 737 make NAN-ADL without heavy weight restrictions.


Yes, using the 737-800's with a few blanked out seats.
This is what FJ used on the ADL route before they had the MAX.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:59 am

Malindo already upgauging the new SYD service before it even launches. Will still launch with 738s on 14 August but effective 27 October upgauging to 737-900ER.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

OD171 KUL1700 – 2010DPS2110 – 0615+1SYD 739 D
OD172 SYD1030 – 1420DPS1520 – 1830KUL 739 D
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Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:06 am

VapourTrails wrote:
When I arrived and departed HBA for the first time last year I already knew there were no aerobridges in place. The stairs on two occasions were slippery because of the rain, or the showery drizzle, which can be more treacherous, especially at night. When we disembarked the 747 last November, there was a canopy over the steep stair, and it was dark - and drizzling.


I suspect a large aircraft like a 744 would still require stairs, the ramps they have at HBA aren't designed to go high enough.

There are ramp systems out there that can service a large widebody but they aren't going to invest in that equipment for one-off flights.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:32 am

VapourTrails wrote:
TasFlyer wrote:


Thank you for this link and news. Another article below said that a passenger ended up in hospital after falling down the stairs. This does not surprise me unfortunately.


Unfortunately that isn't an uncommon occurrence, not just from HBA but other airports within Aus as well.

Ramps will be a good improvement however care would still need to be taken in rain, as would walking anywhere in bad weather conditions.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:21 pm

SeaEagle8 wrote:
Malindo already upgauging the new SYD service before it even launches. Will still launch with 738s on 14 August but effective 27 October upgauging to 737-900ER.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

OD171 KUL1700 – 2010DPS2110 – 0615+1SYD 739 D
OD172 SYD1030 – 1420DPS1520 – 1830KUL 739 D


Given their track record at changes, could be anything by the time that comes around.
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