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Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:23 pm

Maybe announcement in Paris?


CEO Cho says purchasing decision on a widebody order will occur "imminently" From story sounds like decision is now down to 787 or A350 with 777X likely no longer in contention. Size of order not specified.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/korean-a ... 19849.html
https://centreforaviation.com/news/kore ... ent-909440

Also bit related maybe, CEO says they stand by Boeing and the 737MAX and looks to operate fleet as soon as ban is lifted. They have 30 on order with original first delivery planned in May.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/korean-air ... 1559543885
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:31 pm

I sense an A350 order. Their fleet clearly lacks diversity!
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:37 pm

AsiaTravel wrote:
I sense an A350 order. Their fleet clearly lacks diversity!


Their widebody fleet consists of A330s, A380s, 777-200/300(ER), 747-8, 787s.
I think it is already a wide variety of a/c
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:43 pm

Fingers crossed for Boeing; they could use some good news :)
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:44 pm

Additional 787-9 obvious.
With a rumored MTOW increase, 787-10 is highly possible. (Formerly Walter Cho said he would not buy -10 as it cannot do LAX-ICN. United showed they can do SFO-ICN recently.)
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:44 pm

So would more 789 and some 78J (to replace some 772) make sense or A359(to replace some 772) and A35K (to replace A380 way down the line, two 744)
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:50 pm

Let see...since this is KE...

~20x A339neo, since KE is now Delta Airlines Asia
~10x A359, replacing B772ER and older A333
6x A35K, replacing B773A and B744
~10x B78X, replacing B772ER

Too bad this is widebody only, though. I was rooting for some additional A223 order also (although, since this is KE, they may even order some E2's). :duck:
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:52 pm

They have some older A330s and 777s to replace, both -200s and 300s. Boeing should have the upper hand, especially the 787-9 already in KE's fleet and a longer range 787-10 now on the horizon. But I won't rule a split A350/787 order. Indeed depending on the size of the order.
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:54 pm

A350 A350 A350! The new 275t and soon 280t A350 will look AMAZING in KE colours!
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:56 pm

Korean Air seems to be an equal opportunity aircraft buyer. With that in mind, I say A350s are going to be purchased.

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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:05 pm

KE tends to select fleets based on whether any part is manufactured by KE or it can expand engine maintenance portfolio. Due to the latter point, KE hasn’t been an RR customer for decades. Wonder if things will flip this time.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:07 pm

KE will not buy any A330neo/A350s until they will secure the MRO rights for the RR Engines.

But apparently they manufacture A330neo wingtips and A350 cargo doors.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:15 pm

ITSTours wrote:
Additional 787-9 obvious.
With a rumored MTOW increase, 787-10 is highly possible. (Formerly Walter Cho said he would not buy -10 as it cannot do LAX-ICN. United showed they can do SFO-ICN recently.)


Correct order is for 20 aircraft according to some sources with -9 and -10 in the mix
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:27 pm

KE seems to have a tradition of ordering a little bit of everything for widebodies.
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:03 pm

I have no idea, although if the price is right the 789 and 78J would be a solid choice.
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:16 pm

The 787-10 would be a great workhorse for intra asian routes where they send the 77A and 77W. That being said seeing the a350 in KE colours would be great, and with the 777X out of the picture the a35K could be a formidable contender.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:22 pm

zakuivcustom wrote:
Let see...since this is KE...

~20x A339neo, since KE is now Delta Airlines Asia
~10x A359, replacing B772ER and older A333
6x A35K, replacing B773A and B744
~10x B78X, replacing B772ER

Too bad this is widebody only, though. I was rooting for some additional A223 order also (although, since this is KE, they may even order some E2's). :duck:


They have 20 purchase options/rights on the A220. Would a "decision on options imminently" be something KE announces in advance or is there hope?
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:22 pm

FromCDGtoSYD wrote:
The 787-10 would be a great workhorse for intra asian routes where they send the 77A and 77W. That being said seeing the a350 in KE colours would be great, and with the 777X out of the picture the a35K could be a formidable contender.

I say 787-10 too. Their 4 773's have had a hard life and these plus a good few 772's need replacing, as well as the last 744's.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:36 pm

I support the B787 over here with a mix of -9s and -10s to be ordered purely because I believe in fleet standardization and KE already operate 10 B789s and no A350s. Hence there is no need really to add another fleet type into the mix which would make their WBs to be 4 types ie 748 777 787 350 :eye roll:

The B781 can do YVR, SEA, SFO, HNL, Eastern Europe, DXB and intra Asia whilst the B789s can build new long haul routes as well as boost frequencies on current ones.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:44 pm

zakuivcustom wrote:
Let see...since this is KE...

~20x A339neo, since KE is now Delta Airlines Asia
~10x A359, replacing B772ER and older A333
6x A35K, replacing B773A and B744
~10x B78X, replacing B772ER

Too bad this is widebody only, though. I was rooting for some additional A223 order also (although, since this is KE, they may even order some E2's). :duck:


I don’t believe this assessment of KE is fair. DL does not wield power over KE like it does VS. The KE/DL JV is more a venture of equals.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:47 pm

Prost wrote:
I don’t believe this assessment of KE is fair. DL does not wield power over KE like it does VS. The KE/DL JV is more a venture of equals.


I guess my attempt at a joke/sarcasm failed :cry2: .

behramjee wrote:
I support the B787 over here with a mix of -9s and -10s to be ordered purely because I believe in fleet standardization and KE already operate 10 B789s and no A350s. Hence there is no need really to add another fleet type into the mix which would make their WBs to be 4 types ie 748 777 787 350 :eye roll:


Make that 6 - you forgot their A330s (Although they may be getting replaced by the new WB order) and their A380 (Which should stick around for at least another decade).
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:05 pm

boefan wrote:
ITSTours wrote:
Additional 787-9 obvious.
With a rumored MTOW increase, 787-10 is highly possible. (Formerly Walter Cho said he would not buy -10 as it cannot do LAX-ICN. United showed they can do SFO-ICN recently.)


Correct order is for 20 aircraft according to some sources with -9 and -10 in the mix


This is my take as well. They just took delivery of their 200th Boeing (773ER) and celebrated the 50th anniversary of their first Boeing (707.)

No A359 in the future for KE.
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:24 pm

I think the order will be for the mix of 787-9 and -10. Airbus will be used strictly to get better price, along with ongoing 737 MAX fiasco. It's KoreanAir, they won't buy anything but boeings.
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:29 pm

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It's KoreanAir, they won't buy anything but boeings.


Huh? They have A321neo on order, along with existing A332, A333, and A380. They were also former A300 operator (A large A300 operator also).

Oh...I forgot to mention the Douglas/Mad Dogs and the Fokkers also.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:39 pm

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It's KoreanAir, they won't buy anything but boeings.


Really?

32 x A300
30 x A330
10 x A380
10 x A220
30 x A321
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:47 pm

scbriml wrote:
BlueSky1976 wrote:
It's KoreanAir, they won't buy anything but boeings.


Really?

32 x A300
30 x A330
10 x A380
10 x A220
30 x A321


A300 gone
A330 replaced by 787s
A380s gone in 10 years
A220 brand new
A321 will probably be transferred to a LCC that Korean Air owns
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:10 pm

Delta28L wrote:
scbriml wrote:
BlueSky1976 wrote:
It's KoreanAir, they won't buy anything but boeings.


Really?

32 x A300
30 x A330
10 x A380
10 x A220
30 x A321


A300 gone
A330 replaced by 787s
A380s gone in 10 years
A220 brand new
A321 will probably be transferred to a LCC that Korean Air owns


What's your point? They have and they are operating Airbus aircraft and also have them on order. So the notion that they won't buy anything but Boeing has been shown to be false.
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:10 pm

The new range in the B787-10 can open a lot of deals in the coming years.......
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:19 pm

airboss787 wrote:
Delta28L wrote:
scbriml wrote:

Really?

32 x A300
30 x A330
10 x A380
10 x A220
30 x A321


A300 gone
A330 replaced by 787s
A380s gone in 10 years
A220 brand new
A321 will probably be transferred to a LCC that Korean Air owns


What's your point? They have and they are operating Airbus aircraft and also have them on order. So the notion that they won't buy anything but Boeing has been shown to be false.


Not to mention, when did KE's A330 got "replaced by 787s" anyway? Definitely news to me. KE does have 10x B789 option, which I suspect that they will use in the "imminent" WB order, but that's still not going to replace 30-ish A330s.

Plus what makes you think that KE won't use those A321 in their fleet?
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:25 pm

Delta28L wrote:
scbriml wrote:
BlueSky1976 wrote:
It's KoreanAir, they won't buy anything but boeings.


Really?

32 x A300
30 x A330
10 x A380
10 x A220
30 x A321


A300 gone
A330 replaced by 787s
A380s gone in 10 years
A220 brand new
A321 will probably be transferred to a LCC that Korean Air owns


Strange.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:50 pm

A350-1000 to replace 747-8i. :duck:
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:51 pm

zakuivcustom wrote:
airboss787 wrote:
Delta28L wrote:

A300 gone
A330 replaced by 787s
A380s gone in 10 years
A220 brand new
A321 will probably be transferred to a LCC that Korean Air owns


What's your point? They have and they are operating Airbus aircraft and also have them on order. So the notion that they won't buy anything but Boeing has been shown to be false.


Not to mention, when did KE's A330 got "replaced by 787s" anyway? Definitely news to me. KE does have 10x B789 option, which I suspect that they will use in the "imminent" WB order, but that's still not going to replace 30-ish A330s.

Plus what makes you think that KE won't use those A321 in their fleet?


I made the list as a hypothetical future list of what KE fleet might look like. The A330 is going to be replaced by something and KE hasn’t expressed interest in the A330NEO. The 787 would be the next best replacement. The A321 will be used as coverage until the 737MAX issues get resolved and then KE will probably move them to one of their LCCs.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:20 pm

Delta28L wrote:
zakuivcustom wrote:
airboss787 wrote:

What's your point? They have and they are operating Airbus aircraft and also have them on order. So the notion that they won't buy anything but Boeing has been shown to be false.


Not to mention, when did KE's A330 got "replaced by 787s" anyway? Definitely news to me. KE does have 10x B789 option, which I suspect that they will use in the "imminent" WB order, but that's still not going to replace 30-ish A330s.

Plus what makes you think that KE won't use those A321 in their fleet?


I made the list as a hypothetical future list of what KE fleet might look like. The A330 is going to be replaced by something and KE hasn’t expressed interest in the A330NEO. The 787 would be the next best replacement. The A321 will be used as coverage until the 737MAX issues get resolved and then KE will probably move them to one of their LCCs.


The A321s were ordered at the same time at the 737MAXs, there is no basis for that assertion. Further, there is no basis for asserting they will be moved to an LCC.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm

Delta28L wrote:
I made the list as a hypothetical future list of what KE fleet might look like. The A330 is going to be replaced by something and KE hasn’t expressed interest in the A330NEO. The 787 would be the next best replacement. The A321 will be used as coverage until the 737MAX issues get resolved and then KE will probably move them to one of their LCCs.


How to you explain the fact that KE ordered A321neo and B738MAX literally few days apart (A321neo on Nov. 6, 2015; B738MAX on Nov. 9, 2015) if they don't intend to operate both? Plus KE is only getting 738MAX, and KE certainly need a larger NB than that in their fleet.

Also keep in mind that 737 MAX 10 doesn't exist back in 2015 - which essentially drive KE to order A321neo. If anything, KE did ask Boeing for something larger than B739MAX.

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Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm

Jin Air only uses 738s for their narrowbodies and Jin Air is the only LCC of Hanjin KAL. (Korean Air does not own Jin Air shares; thus Jin is not a subsidiary of Korean; both Jin and Korean are subsidiaries of Hanjin KAL.)

There was a rumor that KE will exclusively use A321neos and LJ will use 737 MAXs but apparently not true as there is already a MAX in KE livery. But I still assume no neos in LJ.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:44 pm

pabloeing wrote:
The new range in the B787-10 can open a lot of deals in the coming years.......


Indeed. It has effectively killed the A350-900 in current form. A350-1000 is not selling anyways. Airbus is having serious trouble selling widebody.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:02 pm

BBJ777X wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
The new range in the B787-10 can open a lot of deals in the coming years.......


Indeed. It has effectively killed the A350-900 in current form. A350-1000 is not selling anyways. Airbus is having serious trouble selling widebody.


Lol, what? Listen, I am a Boeing fan...but this nonsense gives us a bad name.
 
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Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:34 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
BBJ777X wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
The new range in the B787-10 can open a lot of deals in the coming years.......


Indeed. It has effectively killed the A350-900 in current form. A350-1000 is not selling anyways. Airbus is having serious trouble selling widebody.


Lol, what? Listen, I am a Boeing fan...but this nonsense gives us a bad name.


We will see if there is any airline would still order A359 once the 260t 787-10 is out. Of course there might be an improved version of A359 as well. But as of right now, A359 is in danger.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:41 pm

https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... agm-475578
This CAPA article is not behind the paywall and is certainly interesting for this topic.

About widebodies:

Walter Cho: “We have a lot of need for widebodies. We are looking at all the options. Since we already have a 787 fleet there is a very high possibility we would expand our fleet on the 787. The 777-X is coming up and would be a good replacement for our current 777.”
“Our market has grown especially in trans pacific into the US and Canada. It is growing significantly and we are seeing needs for larger aircraft intra-Asia as well.”
“We have too many fleet types. Consolidating to one large order would help us reduce maintenance type and training as well.”
“I’m very pleased with our current (widebody} fleet – both Airbus and Boeing. But they are starting to show their age so we have to do replacement.”

They'll definitely buy more 787s. Comments on 777X is certainly interesting.

About A220:

Walter Cho: “The aircraft has performed extremely well. We are very pleased with it. Passenger reaction has been very good. Service reliability is extremely well. We look forward to a very good operation.”
“It hasn’t been used to start new routes but has replaced 737-800s from smaller cities in South Korea which were too big. It has actually shown a lot of benefits.”

Will they buy additional A220s? They did have 10 options and 10 purchase rights.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:08 am

Korean Air will probably buy both since they buy everything. Their aerospace division makes parts for the A350 so its likely they will buy those, why else would they have 10 747-8. They make 748 parts too. More 787-9 almost a certainty, 777-9 needed to replace older 777 and 744 still around. 787-10 if the the range has been extended, with the Air New Zealand order last week maybe KAL knows what ANZ knows too. Could this be a string of orders for the 787-10.

GE powered planes highly likely as KAL does maintanence on them. Whatever they buy les hope they buy lots.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:17 am

I think it will be a combination of B789 and B78X to replace the 230t MTOW A330s. They’re pretty satisfied with their GE-powered units.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:25 am

BBJ777X wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
The new range in the B787-10 can open a lot of deals in the coming years.......


Indeed. It has effectively killed the A350-900 in current form. A350-1000 is not selling anyways. Airbus is having serious trouble selling widebody.

Oh for the love of God! :roll:
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:27 am

ITSTours wrote:
https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/korean-air-new-chief-walter-cho-in-spotlight-as-seoul-hosts-iata-agm-475578
This CAPA article is not behind the paywall and is certainly interesting for this topic.

About widebodies:

Walter Cho: “We have a lot of need for widebodies. We are looking at all the options. Since we already have a 787 fleet there is a very high possibility we would expand our fleet on the 787. The 777-X is coming up and would be a good replacement for our current 777.”
“Our market has grown especially in trans pacific into the US and Canada. It is growing significantly and we are seeing needs for larger aircraft intra-Asia as well.”
“We have too many fleet types. Consolidating to one large order would help us reduce maintenance type and training as well.”
“I’m very pleased with our current (widebody} fleet – both Airbus and Boeing. But they are starting to show their age so we have to do replacement.”

They'll definitely buy more 787s. Comments on 777X is certainly interesting.

About A220:

Walter Cho: “The aircraft has performed extremely well. We are very pleased with it. Passenger reaction has been very good. Service reliability is extremely well. We look forward to a very good operation.”
“It hasn’t been used to start new routes but has replaced 737-800s from smaller cities in South Korea which were too big. It has actually shown a lot of benefits.”

Will they buy additional A220s? They did have 10 options and 10 purchase rights.

This year has a shortage of orders. Now us the time to renegotiate. I'd love to see a top off A220 order.

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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:33 am

jfk777 wrote:
Korean Air will probably buy both since they buy everything. Their aerospace division makes parts for the A350 so its likely they will buy those, why else would they have 10 747-8. They make 748 parts too. More 787-9 almost a certainty, 777-9 needed to replace older 777 and 744 still around. 787-10 if the the range has been extended, with the Air New Zealand order last week maybe KAL knows what ANZ knows too. Could this be a string of orders for the 787-10.

GE powered planes highly likely as KAL does maintanence on them. Whatever they buy les hope they buy lots.


Historically true. But new CEO (or the son of the deceased) Walter Cho may think differently, as he says he wants fleet consolidation.
Also, KCGI, a PEF and the second largest shareholder of Hanjin KAL, wants Korean Air to spinoff the aerospace division (to make another Lufthansa Technik basically).
This may impact the long-term fleet choice decision as well.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:59 am

KE has been really against RR-powered aircraft. I sense that KE will not buy A350 or A330 neo for that reason.
ICN-ATL at around 7000sm is likely longest route for KE for a foreseeable future so ULH is not needed, but due to cargo division, high payload is always welcome
IMO KE will probably go with 787-9 and 787-10 and some 777-9X.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:17 am

LY777 wrote:
AsiaTravel wrote:
I sense an A350 order. Their fleet clearly lacks diversity!


Their widebody fleet consists of A330s, A380s, 777-200/300(ER), 747-8, 787s.
I think it is already a wide variety of a/c


I am aware. You missed the sarcasm.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:34 am

They have some older 77E/773/A332/A333, I’d see a 789/78J order here.

They also have newer A330/77E/77W/748/A380/789 so it’s hard to see them reducing types in the short medium term, eventually I could see some 779 when the time comes to replace the 748/A380 in the late 2020s early 2030s, and they could if they wished replace most of the 77E/77W/A330 fleets with 789/78J overtime, it is interesting if they don’t like or have had issues with RR which is the only option on the A330NEO/A350.
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:26 am

AsiaTravel wrote:
LY777 wrote:
AsiaTravel wrote:
I sense an A350 order. Their fleet clearly lacks diversity!


Their widebody fleet consists of A330s, A380s, 777-200/300(ER), 747-8, 787s.
I think it is already a wide variety of a/c


I am aware. You missed the sarcasm.


Their fleet is downright homogeneous compared to TG :stirthepot:
2019: SIN HKG NRT DFW IAH HOU CLT LGA JFK SFO SJC EWR SNA EYW MIA BOG LAX ORD DTW OAK PVG BOS DCA IAD ATL LAS BIS CUN PHX OAK SYD CVG PHL MAD ORY CDG SLC SJU BQN DEN DOH BLR MAA KTM YYZ MEX
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:45 am

Strato2 wrote:
A350-1000 to replace 747-8i. :duck:

That (if it ever happened) actually be a fairly sound decision.
Not quite as much of an even-match as a 779 order would be, but then again, who says it has to be even.



BBJ777X wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
The new range in the B787-10 can open a lot of deals in the coming years.......

Indeed. It has effectively killed the A350-900 in current form.

Based on ____?
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:20 am

No surprise that the 777X is definitely ruled out: too heavy, too large, too much range, just plain too much for KE’s current needs. They want to focus on a fleet of reasonable, mid sized wide bodies now.

I can see a nice order for 787-10s, to replace late 90s “classic” 777-300 serving the SE Asia market.

A350-900 is a tad less likely but a good possibility. Remember, JAL’s A350 order literally came out of nowhere despite historical preference for GE and Boeing, and despite solid 787 orders already in place and many of them already in service. So I would definitely not cross this option out... ;)

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