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Updated: Air Astana incident caused by inverted aileron control

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:27 pm

Whatever is happening with the plane does not look normal at all. I hope everything is fine with them.

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Flight Path:
https://www.flightradar24.com/KZR1388/1e84fc24

Live ATC of LIS:
https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=lis
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:33 pm

Where is it headed..? Doesn't look like it going towards any airport

Ohhhh just read the title. Very very sad and serious
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:33 pm

Looks like a test flight out Alverca after maintenance to me
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:34 pm

Listening to ATC at Lisboa, it sounds like it will be a sea landing!! Thoughts to everyone on board...
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:37 pm

It's gaining altitude and speed now
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:38 pm

Sounds like they have minimal control of the aircraft.
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:40 pm

Whoa, that has got to be the most erratic flight path I have ever seen. Whatever is happening doesn't look good. :-(
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:42 pm

Flying in a straight line now. Looks like they may have some sort of control.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:43 pm

Definitely out of control. Pilots stated they intend to ditch at first. Now on liveATC they have asked for an airport with good weather.
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:44 pm

Heading east, currently trying to land at a good weather airport. Sounds like they have more control of the aircraft now..
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:44 pm

Where are they heading east now?
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:45 pm

Headed on a straight path towards Spanish airspace now...slowly gaining altitude (FL190)
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:45 pm

This is scary. Best of luck to those onboard.
On behalf of your entire Boston based crew, thanks for flying with us today.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:46 pm

Being directed to turn 195 towards airport 75 miles away...not doing it so far...
 
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:47 pm

IS being directed to Beja Airport BYJ/LPBJ
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:48 pm

Looks like they are headed there
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:49 pm

plane is under control now!! great !!
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:49 pm

Airplane under control now says pilot but needs good weather
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:53 pm

What is the deal with this plane? It's last flight on fr24 shows MSQ-LIS over a month ago.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:54 pm

Assume this was a delivery flight from Brazil to Kazakhstan?
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:55 pm

Man, this is nutty! I hope they get down safely! Would like to hear the cause behind this one.
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:56 pm

crescent wrote:
What is the deal with this plane? It's last flight on fr24 shows MSQ-LIS over a month ago.

Very likely heavy maintenance at LIS. This seems to be the first flight after.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:00 pm

Did they remove the flight from FlightAware? Not able to see it. Any other comparable sites?
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 pm

soflaflyer wrote:
Did they remove the flight from FlightAware? Not able to see it. Any other comparable sites?


It's still there. Callsign KZR1388 on flightradar24 at least.
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 pm

1388 is also not a regular flight for KC
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:02 pm

soflaflyer wrote:
Did they remove the flight from FlightAware? Not able to see it. Any other comparable sites?


Flightradar24 has it.
 
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:07 pm

Coverage has stopped just over a large lake for me...
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:07 pm

Just went off FR's radar. This can't be good.
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:08 pm

Ditched on the lake?
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:08 pm

So I’m showing the track stopped pretty much over that lake. Hope everything is ok.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:09 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
Ditched on the lake?

When coverage stopped, it has just descended thru 3125 ft. That's the last reading.
319/20/21 332/33 342/43/45 359/51 388 707 717 732/36/3G/38/39 74R/42/43/44/4E/48 757 762/63 772/7L/73/7W 788/89 D10 M80 135/40/45 175/90 DH1/4 CRJ/R7 L10
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Probably due to a lack of satellite signal, seems to be a bit in the middle of nowhere so probably not many FR24 receivers round there.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Always scary to see the tracker stop tracking but it happens regularly...hoping it's the same here.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:10 pm

That's still about 10km from the airport.
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:11 pm

I guess bad reception in lower altitude.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:11 pm

scbriml wrote:
That's still about 10km from the airport.


3000ft 10kms away from the airport seems about right
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:13 pm

That flight path and Squawking 7700? Something is clearly wrong.... Hoping for the best...
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Reports coming in it was a successful landing at Beja.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Confirmed by volunteer emergency teams in Portugal that the plane landed successfully on runway 19R at Beja
 
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:15 pm

Been watching it as well until it just repeats itself, some major altitude changes!
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:16 pm

UPDATE on flight #KC1388 has SAFELY landed on runaway 19R of Beja airbase, after losing several system and attempted to land. Scorched by 2 F16 jets.


From several twitter sources. Not verified.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:17 pm

Wonderful news, thanks for confirming
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:19 pm

Good news.
Many happy landings, greetings from The Netherlands!
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:23 pm

If FR24 is to be trusted they were flying out of control for one entire hour! Amazing job by the crew! Glad to see it all ended well
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:25 pm

Wow, incredible. I bet those pilots are kissing the ground right now.
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:28 pm

3 atempts to land in Beja , but landed sucesfully
 
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Re: Air Astana EMB 190 Squawking 7700 currently on an erratic flight over Lisbon asking permission to ditch in ocean

Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:31 pm

Great job by the crew.

Could we change the title, please?
Many happy landings, greetings from The Netherlands!

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