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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:23 am

Oh, I seem to have stumbled into pedants.net.

Anyway, congratulations to JAL on taking delivery of their first Airbus A350. I hope that's OK for everyone? :sarcastic:
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:37 am

scbriml wrote:
Oh, I seem to have stumbled into pedants.net.

Anyway, congratulations to JAL on taking delivery of their first Airbus A350. I hope that's OK for everyone? :sarcastic:


Yes, I think we'd better stick with that!

Leaving aside the A300, which was quite different technology from the A350, this must be a big cultural change for JAL, which is probably the last major international airline to have held back from ordering (!!) Airbuses. The JAL pilots would have to learn a whole new philosophy and the Airbus "way", which - even for those used to glass cockpits - is significantly different from Boeing's.

I do hope it serves them well (I see no reason why it shouldn't) and hopefully we'll see top-ups (and eventually, a more inspired livery from JAL!)
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:29 am

Japan, historically a no-go zone for Airbus, has been a big hunting-ground for it lately. Most Japanese LCCs operate A320s; NH has the A320, A321 and A380; and now Oneworld no longer has a member that does not operate Airbus.*

*Of course, that will change when AT joins next year.

kaitak wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Oh, I seem to have stumbled into pedants.net.

Anyway, congratulations to JAL on taking delivery of their first Airbus A350. I hope that's OK for everyone? :sarcastic:

Yes, I think we'd better stick with that!

Leaving aside the A300, which was quite different technology from the A350, this must be a big cultural change for JAL, which is probably the last major international airline to have held back from ordering (!!) Airbuses. The JAL pilots would have to learn a whole new philosophy and the Airbus "way", which - even for those used to glass cockpits - is significantly different from Boeing's.

I do hope it serves them well (I see no reason why it shouldn't) and hopefully we'll see top-ups (and eventually, a more inspired livery from JAL!)

There are a number of major international airlines that have steered clear of Airbus: LOT, El Al, KQ and AM, to name a few. Among these, LY and AM are 100% Boeing airlines, while the other two operate Embraers.
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:56 am

kaitak wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Oh, I seem to have stumbled into pedants.net.

Anyway, congratulations to JAL on taking delivery of their first Airbus A350. I hope that's OK for everyone? :sarcastic:


Yes, I think we'd better stick with that!

Leaving aside the A300, which was quite different technology from the A350, this must be a big cultural change for JAL, which is probably the last major international airline to have held back from ordering (!!) Airbuses. The JAL pilots would have to learn a whole new philosophy and the Airbus "way", which - even for those used to glass cockpits - is significantly different from Boeing's.

I do hope it serves them well (I see no reason why it shouldn't) and hopefully we'll see top-ups (and eventually, a more inspired livery from JAL!)

Well, on the LH first 777X thread there was a discussion about the LH livery, and on the SAS A350 routes thread there was also talk about a new livery (for SK). On the former, someone remarked about JAL's livery as minimalist but done right. Looking at the pic, I have to agree. But I do hope not every airline will adopt the same approach though.

I still am very surprised JAL chose the A350 as their domestic widebody aircraft. The 787-10 seemed to be a more logical choice. For long haul ops though, the A350 should be a perfect fit for JL.
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:06 am

A missed chance to finally reintroduce something that deserves the name livery!
JAL´s empty canvas makes LHs new livery look like a flamboyant flash of colour!
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:41 am

Was hoping for JAL to do something innovative with their great looking new A350 for long haul. Using such a nice plane for 90 minute flights is not the same. JAL already has what has to be the nicest domestic fleet in the world. Have you seen their First Class seats on domestic flights, flying thrones.
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:50 am

Guess the first domestic routes are for crew training. Afterall it is the first fly by wire, sidestick Airbus in JAL´s fleet.
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:11 pm

columba wrote:
Guess the first domestic routes are for crew training. Afterall it is the first fly by wire, sidestick Airbus in JAL´s fleet.

This is a domestic configured plane replacing the domestic 772. Barring a shift in strategy from JAL it will spend its entire life flying domestic routes.

A35Ks will be used long haul.
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:41 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Was hoping for JAL to do something innovative with their great looking new A350 for long haul. Using such a nice plane for 90 minute flights is not the same. JAL already has what has to be the nicest domestic fleet in the world. Have you seen their First Class seats on domestic flights, flying thrones.


The planes are nice but they're also getting old.

Plus you'll see A35K on long-haul once JL eventually takes delivery of them.

frigatebird wrote:
I still am very surprised JAL chose the A350 as their domestic widebody aircraft. The 787-10 seemed to be a more logical choice. For long haul ops though, the A350 should be a perfect fit for JL.


JL diversify their fleet on purpose, i.e. in case one plane type (Cough...787...) face major issues, they still got other new planes.

Polot wrote:
This is a domestic configured plane replacing the domestic 772. Barring a shift in strategy from JAL it will spend its entire life flying domestic routes.


As I've said on a few other threads, I can see the A359s being used as charters during the Tokyo Olympics to places like Seoul. But yes, otherwise they'll be spending 99% of their life flying HND-FUK/CTS/ITM/OKA.
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:08 pm

JAL ordered the A350 from Airbus because they were increasingly frustrated with Boeing and the 787.
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:43 pm

RB211trent wrote:
JAL ordered the A350 from Airbus because they were increasingly frustrated with Boeing and the 787.

Yes, the grounding was the last straw and JAL decided to act by ordering the A350.
 
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Re: JAL announces first A350 route

Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:45 pm

Anyone have insight when first -1000 are planned to arrive?
 
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Re: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)

Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:00 pm

flee wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
JAL ordered the A350 from Airbus because they were increasingly frustrated with Boeing and the 787.

Yes, the grounding was the last straw and JAL decided to act by ordering the A350.[/

A decision to purchase one over the other, simply for a possible (temporary) grounding, would be made if the economics didn't work.
 
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Re: JAL announces first A350 route

Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:35 pm

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Re: JAL announces first A350 route

Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:24 pm

Can't express how much I like that livery on the A350. The colors and the proportion of all the elements are perfect. It even sort of works with the usually awful raccoon mask. That is the way to do Eurowhite.

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