OMAAbound
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747-8 PAX Version

Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:06 pm

Evening everyone

Having seen numerous thread over the past few days all reading the same regarding the A380 converting to Freighter etc... What will happen to the PAX versions (Although there is few)? Do they have conversion available to them once they’ve finished? Or will it be straight to the scrappers for these?

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Ziyulu
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Re: 747-8 PAX Version

Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:14 pm

Only three airlines have them, LH, CA, and KE. And are they still fairly young?
 
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Aesma
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Re: 747-8 PAX Version

Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:37 pm

It would be no problem to convert them to freighters. Don't know if that will happen though, someone has to pay for the P2F STC, it has to be worth it.
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Re: 747-8 PAX Version

Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:44 pm

Aesma wrote:
It would be no problem to convert them to freighters. Don't know if that will happen though, someone has to pay for the P2F STC, it has to be worth it.


They could also be converted to 747LCF if Boeing needs to operate LCF's through the middle of the 21st century.
 
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Re: 747-8 PAX Version

Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:09 am

Aesma wrote:
It would be no problem to convert them to freighters. Don't know if that will happen though, someone has to pay for the P2F STC, it has to be worth it.


With just 36 frames delivered to airlines, the economic case to develop a P2F programme would be limited to none existent.
 
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Re: 747-8 PAX Version

Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:18 am

OMAAbound wrote:
What will happen to the PAX versions

Could go a number of ways:

  1. Airlines could just fly them until the cost of doing so outweighs the benefits. That could be a while, as they share mostly common parts/mtx with 748Fs, so it'll be a while before the cost to maintain them is unjustifiable. Unfavorable rather soon maybe, but definitely not unjustifiable.
  2. Or they could have a similar fate to the A345, which sold in similar low numbers, and mostly end up as VIP/charter aircraft as soon as a better replacement (e.g. 779) ramps up on the market.
  3. Or they could head to the scrapper before their first heavy mtx, as airlines might find it's not worth it.

.....any of the above has a fairly strong chance of happening, though the scrapper is probably the least likely, due again to extant mtx programs for the 748Fs out there.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil

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