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Morgenstern1234
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China eastern airlines Russia services

Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:35 pm

Just noticed that China eastern flies to Russia 21 times a week (PVG-SVO 11 times a week, PVG-Xian-SVO 3 times a week, PVG-LED 5 times a week and PVG-Xian-LED 2 times a week during during the 2019 summer season, but only 4 weekly PVG-SVO flights during the upcoming winter season. is Russia really that much of a seasonal destination for Chinese tourists?
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:39 pm

Xi’an might be the key that it’s for Russians going to China, not necessarily vice versa
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:50 pm

Who wants to go to Russia during the middle of the dead-winter when there's only freezing temperature and snow?

Aeroflot has an entirely different story as they ran a connecting hub in SVO, but this is not the same for MU. Air China also does the same. You've literally answered your own question honestly - just like Europe to N.A.

Michael
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:25 am

eamondzhang wrote:
Who wants to go to Russia during the middle of the dead-winter when there's only freezing temperature and snow?

Aeroflot has an entirely different story as they ran a connecting hub in SVO, but this is not the same for MU. Air China also does the same. You've literally answered your own question honestly - just like Europe to N.A.

Michael

Actually Air China stays daily to Moscow year round
 
Morgenstern1234
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:25 am

eamondzhang wrote:
Who wants to go to Russia during the middle of the dead-winter when there's only freezing temperature and snow?

Aeroflot has an entirely different story as they ran a connecting hub in SVO, but this is not the same for MU. Air China also does the same. You've literally answered your own question honestly - just like Europe to N.A.

Michael
arctic northern lights? Moscow pretty lively during winter..
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:14 am

sw733 wrote:
Xi’an might be the key that it’s for Russians going to China, not necessarily vice versa

Whats in Xian for Russians? I'm doubting that China Easterns Long Haul Operations at Xian is for profit but just for subsidiaries from the local gov. I attended the first MAD-Xian flight and only ONE passenger was headed to Xian and that person booked the flight one day before as they had an emergency with a family member there. Staff were also telling me that it isn't good for business as it bights into their already small corporate traffic that they have to PVG from MAD.
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Morgenstern1234
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:46 am

lesfalls wrote:
sw733 wrote:
Xi’an might be the key that it’s for Russians going to China, not necessarily vice versa

Whats in Xian for Russians? I'm doubting that China Easterns Long Haul Operations at Xian is for profit but just for subsidiaries from the local gov. I attended the first MAD-Xian flight and only ONE passenger was headed to Xian and that person booked the flight one day before as they had an emergency with a family member there. Staff were also telling me that it isn't good for business as it bights into their already small corporate traffic that they have to PVG from MAD.

Xian is still one the more popular cities in China for foreign tourists or maybe MU trying to prevent competition.
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:52 am

Here’s another interesting China-Russia city pair https://www.rustourismnews.com/2019/06/ ... o-kunming/ Lucky Air 3 times a week between Kunming and and LED, doubt it would last into the winter
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:20 am

Morgenstern1234 wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Who wants to go to Russia during the middle of the dead-winter when there's only freezing temperature and snow?

Aeroflot has an entirely different story as they ran a connecting hub in SVO, but this is not the same for MU. Air China also does the same. You've literally answered your own question honestly - just like Europe to N.A.

Michael

Actually Air China stays daily to Moscow year round

Air China is daily yearround however in summer season it does increase frequency and/or capacity (11x A333 last year, this year apparently swapped daily A333 with a 392-seater 777-300ER so there is seasonal capacity adjustments)

Morgenstern1234 wrote:
arctic northern lights? Moscow pretty lively during winter..

People in China doesn't normally go Russia for that - Finland is a far more popular place for this purpose AFAIK

Michael
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:59 am

Russia is a visa free destination for Chinese if they travel as a group of more than 3 persons. It is one of the TOP destination for over-50s Chinese due to historical reasons.

Visa free is very important for Chinese tourists. The handful countries that is visa free enjoyed high volume of Chinese tourists.
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:42 am

chonetsao wrote:
Russia is a visa free destination for Chinese if they travel as a group of more than 3 persons. It is one of the TOP destination for over-50s Chinese due to historical reasons.

Visa free is very important for Chinese tourists. The handful countries that is visa free enjoyed high volume of Chinese tourists.
if Russia and China went full visa free we would see double the amount of traffic
 
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Re: China eastern airlines Russia services

Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:06 pm

lesfalls wrote:
sw733 wrote:
Xi’an might be the key that it’s for Russians going to China, not necessarily vice versa

Whats in Xian for Russians? I'm doubting that China Easterns Long Haul Operations at Xian is for profit but just for subsidiaries from the local gov. I attended the first MAD-Xian flight and only ONE passenger was headed to Xian and that person booked the flight one day before as they had an emergency with a family member there. Staff were also telling me that it isn't good for business as it bights into their already small corporate traffic that they have to PVG from MAD.


''Whats in Xian for Russians''?

Xian is a major tourist destination in itself and is the starting point of the ''Ancient Silk Route'', it is also home to the 'Terracotta Warriors'', both extremely popular for visitors and tourism to the city.
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