SteelChair wrote:I continue to believe that the 777x program is in trouble. Its too big and too heavy for most "real" airlines. Most of its orders are from ME3 and they're in trouble financially. What a tragedy Boeing did 777x and the 747-8 instead of MOM and a 737 replacement.
Yes they got their priority / timeline wrong with the 777X. The move away from VLAs and the cancellation of the A380neo combined means a much smaller market even for a 777 without competition in the 400+ pax range. Etihad is mostly out, The ME2 are looking for replacing their 777/A380's, which means a slower production ramp / lower volumes which start to kick in 10 years from now. I can see the 777-10X becoming a popular choice to replace the A380's and as a growth path for popular 787 / A350 routes. The 777-8X OTOH has too much competition from the 350.
And about this quote:
Clark said he’s discussing with Boeing “a combination of the 150 777Xs and the 40 787s, essentially looking to keep the numbers in place, but substituting and spacing them out over a longer timeline.”
Pushing them further into the future makes them essentially a (partial) replacement for the A380's, so I can see those moved further away eventually becoming 10X orders.
The bolded part is something a few people in this thread seem to gloss over but actually is by far the most interesting part of the article. It's clear they want to keep that overall 190 figure, but with those 30 A350's on order, it's clear they are looking to replace their 777-8X orders for 787-9 or -10s. They might up the 777-9X to 120-125 to keep the total value of both orders the same.
But I'm hoping we see the formal announcement of the 10X (and cancellation of the 8X) at Dubai Airshow for something along the line off:
60 777-10X (at later dates)