crjflyboy wrote:

There has to be a national data base of these people that create these problems, and they should be banned for life for flying on any airline, 1 strike and you're out.

crjflyboy wrote:

There has to be a national data base of these people that create these problems, and they should be banned for life for flying on any airline, 1 strike and you're out.

Flying is a privilege, it is not a constitutional right.

crjflyboy wrote:

Flying is a privilege, it is not a constitutional right.
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FCOTSTW wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

Flying is a privilege, it is not a constitutional right.
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Sorry, but an airplane ticket is nothing more than a transportation contract and as such, an airline has the right to refuse to enter such a contract, if it chooses to do so. It is not a privilege.

WayexTDI wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

There has to be a national data base of these people that create these problems, and they should be banned for life for flying on any airline, 1 strike and you're out.

Flying is a privilege, it is not a constitutional right.

A little exaggeration on your end?

Driving is a privilege, not a constitutional right; so, according to you, one moving violation (such as speeding) and you can no longer drive???

The guy needs to be punished according to existing laws, he should get counseling (both anger and alcohol); but "banned for life for flying on any airline"??? Be realistic, we all have bad days.

crjflyboy wrote:

WayexTDI wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

There has to be a national data base of these people that create these problems, and they should be banned for life for flying on any airline, 1 strike and you're out.

Flying is a privilege, it is not a constitutional right.

A little exaggeration on your end?

Driving is a privilege, not a constitutional right; so, according to you, one moving violation (such as speeding) and you can no longer drive???

The guy needs to be punished according to existing laws, he should get counseling (both anger and alcohol); but "banned for life for flying on any airline"??? Be realistic, we all have bad days.

No exageration at all ... you are eqauting assaulting others in an aluminum tube traveling 500 mph + at 35,000 feet with speeding ?

WayexTDI wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

WayexTDI wrote:

A little exaggeration on your end?

Driving is a privilege, not a constitutional right; so, according to you, one moving violation (such as speeding) and you can no longer drive???

The guy needs to be punished according to existing laws, he should get counseling (both anger and alcohol); but "banned for life for flying on any airline"??? Be realistic, we all have bad days.

No exageration at all ... you are eqauting assaulting others in an aluminum tube traveling 500 mph + at 35,000 feet with speeding ?

"one strike and you're out" is never the answer to anything.
Maybe you're suggesting that guy should also be shot to death so he won't bother anyone else ever? Welcome to dictatorship...

FCOTSTW wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

Flying is a privilege, it is not a constitutional right.
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Sorry, but an airplane ticket is nothing more than a transportation contract and as such, an airline has the right to refuse to enter such a contract, if it chooses to do so. It is not a privilege.

727LOVER wrote:

WayexTDI wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

No exageration at all ... you are eqauting assaulting others in an aluminum tube traveling 500 mph + at 35,000 feet with speeding ?

"one strike and you're out" is never the answer to anything.
Maybe you're suggesting that guy should also be shot to death so he won't bother anyone else ever? Welcome to dictatorship...

NOW who's exaggerating???

So AA shouldn't have the right to ban him because he had a BAD DAY????

zakuivcustom wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

There has to be a national data base of these people that create these problems, and they should be banned for life for flying on any airline, 1 strike and you're out.

Maybe US should have a "Point System" like mainland China which disqualify certain people from flying if their "point/rank" are not high enough.

P.S. No need for the title to be in all caps...

joeycapps wrote:

I don't necessarily agree with the 1 strike and you're out policy because that's just unrealistic... But pax need to be held accountable for their actions somehow. Alcohol is almost always the catalyst for this behavior, and it's not fair that the airline and other passengers foot the bill (financially and timely) for diversions and the resulting delays. I believe it was HA that not too long ago levied the diversion cost onto the passenger that caused the diversion. Medical I understand, but if you lack the self control to refrain from getting blitzed on a flight, and cause a diversion, you should be punished accordingly. Perhaps a healthy fine and banned from flying until it's paid off? I don't know what the solution is...

And by the way, any airline can ban anyone from flying them with reason at anytime.... It is a business. I'm not sure how much diversions cost down to the penny, but every time this happens, I imagine tens of thousands of dollars adding up quickly. Why would any carrier absorb that liability for a second time?

crjflyboy wrote:

This article from the Atlanta paper will give you an idea of the costs.

joeycapps wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

This article from the Atlanta paper will give you an idea of the costs.

Wow... I appreciate the link. Start levying $20k-$100k fines on the public, put it on the front page, and eventually a few people will catch on and re-think their decisions.

WayexTDI wrote:

joeycapps wrote:

crjflyboy wrote:

This article from the Atlanta paper will give you an idea of the costs.

Wow... I appreciate the link. Start levying $20k-$100k fines on the public, put it on the front page, and eventually a few people will catch on and re-think their decisions.

Correct. Still a far cry from banning them from flying for life on all airlines as OP suggested...

crjflyboy wrote:

Anyone that causes a flight to be diverted should be held financially liable for the associated costs to the airline and every passenger affected.

Chase Brown to Jack Kobak: You’re 100% correct. They fed him 6 Gins on the airplane. He sat next to my dad and step mom. He started grabbing my stepmoms leg, and reached over to my dad, while rubbing his arm on her breast. I switched seats with my stepmom, and then eventually he grabbed my dad by the neck, so we went to town on him. They had no handcuffs or Air Marshals on the plane. He just had to be held down until cops got on the plane. Their duct tape and baggage straps didn’t do much.

joeycapps wrote:

Start levying $20k-$100k fines on the public, put it on the front page, and eventually a few people will catch on and re-think their decisions.

IPFreely wrote:

joeycapps wrote:

Start levying $20k-$100k fines on the public, put it on the front page, and eventually a few people will catch on and re-think their decisions.

That sounds great except almost all of the people who would end up facing $20k-$100k fines are probably broke -- you'd be hard pressed to get more than five bucks out of most of them. Very few prosecutors will spend thousands of dollars to win cases and get fines levied when everyone knows the fines will never be paid.