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Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:14 am

Regular readers may remember that Air India dumped five of its original eight 777-200LR frames in a panicky fire sale in 2014. Etihad acquired them, refurbished the interiors, and used them to fly Americas routes for just three years. They are now stored, and it appears they may have been acquired by parts vendors. There is some irony in this as lately AI has been trying to expand Americas service and has been short of ULH airframes.

Are they indeed being parted out? Have any existing -200LR operators kicked the tires? (Although neither DL or AC seems like an airline that would want to deal with AI recordkeeping.)
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:23 am

 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:24 am

LRA, LRB and LRD are at SBD, which normally means that they are planned to be scrapped. LRC is at Kemble, which in most cases is also the final destination for the specific aircraft. LRE is still at TEV. But with LRB, LRC and LRE being transferred to Altavair Air Finance, they maybe have a chance. Sadly, as far as I know, there is no airline which would be interested in used LR's. Like the A345, their economics are the worst in the aircraft family.
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:06 am

Iran Air could have used these frames.
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:31 am

Ironically AI has used the remaining 3 B77Ls very efficiently ever since the sale. None of them are close to scraping at all. Heights of mismanagement and lack of vision
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:21 am

I would have really liked to see more Worldliners in AC livery.
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:50 am

There's probably no way to convert these to freighters? Because of the floor beams?
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:05 pm

LHA320 wrote:
But with LRB, LRC and LRE being transferred to Altavair Air Finance, they maybe have a chance.


There are photos around showing LRC being dismantled at Kemble.
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:02 pm

Slash787 wrote:
Iran Air could have used these frames.


Well, except for the sanctions and embargo against trade with Iran. :roll:

The frames in question likely had numerous safety/maintenance related record keeping issues. For several years now there have been rumors that the issues with these frames were sufficient to make securing insurance coverage difficult or economically prohibitive. Safety regulators would like never permit frames to enter commercial passenger service anyway, so it is a mute point.
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:32 pm

By 08/06/2019 LRC was missing engines, radome and undercarriage and sat in the scrapping area.

Doubt that it will fly again.
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:11 pm

IINM, these are also the only 772LRs in the world that were delivered with provisions for the aux tanks, thus giving it its true "world's longest-ranged airliner" capabilities at 9,395nm.

Every other airline took their 77Ls with only the standard center tank, and are thus "limited" to 8555nm.
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:12 pm

Also, Turkmenistan wanted to purchase a 77L as of last week. Wonder if they sniffed around these at all.

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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:43 pm

I think AA should acquire these frames for a ULH ultra luxury subsidiary assuming TWAs name. ;)

And for some other people on this bored I guess they can be based in LAX. ;)
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:58 pm

Why did EY do away with these? I thought it would come in handy since they have been cutting capacity recently. The 77L would have been a substitute for routes where a 77W was a bit too much.
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:23 am

LAX772LR wrote:
IINM, these are also the only 772LRs in the world that were delivered with provisions for the aux tanks, thus giving it its true "world's longest-ranged airliner" capabilities at 9,395nm.

Every other airline took their 77Ls with only the standard center tank, and are thus "limited" to 8555nm.


I thought the two test aircraft delivered to PIA had them too (at least the provisions).
 
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:38 am

seabosdca wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
IINM, these are also the only 772LRs in the world that were delivered with provisions for the aux tanks, thus giving it its true "world's longest-ranged airliner" capabilities at 9,395nm.

Every other airline took their 77Ls with only the standard center tank, and are thus "limited" to 8555nm.

I thought the two test aircraft delivered to PIA had them too (at least the provisions).

Yeah. Still not 100% sure, but I should've clarified that AI was the only one to specifically order them as such. PK took them (as you said, due to having the test ships) by default.
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Re: Fate of AI/EY 777-200LRs?

Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:47 am

acavpics wrote:
Why did EY do away with these? I thought it would come in handy since they have been cutting capacity recently. The 77L would have been a substitute for routes where a 77W was a bit too much.


Cos the cost operating both the aircraft are similar. So why operate the smaller one?

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