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Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:32 pm

tphuang wrote:
why is BA doing this? PEK is the preferred airport? Are they unable to get good time slots at PEK? Seems like CA is really going to win out from this.
At a guess BA has a lot of connecting traffic through PEK, being some 700nm closer to LHR than PVG.
So if it's main connections are moving then it needs to as well.

Whereas I'd say QF has most connections through HKG and PVG, with PEK being destination mainly, so it may not move.

For AA, PEK is only marginally closer
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm

Zoedyn wrote:
Also the WAW-PKX schedule is terrific.
LO89 WAW-PKX 22:40-14:20 + 1 on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays
LO90 PKX-WAW 16:00-18:45 on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays

What's so great about this schedule? Personally I prefer to arrive in the Far East during early morning. And why would passengers want to arrive that late in Warsaw if they have a connecting flight? I would rather get home a few hours earlier.

Zoedyn wrote:
Compare that to the WAW-PEK times, absolutely awful to Chinese pax
LO91 WAW-PEK 16:30-06:35 + 1 on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays
LO92 PEK-WAW 08:45-12:20 on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays

Why are these times absolutely awful? This schedule looks fine to me.

Zoedyn wrote:
Routesonline disclosed the schedule as follows:
AY081 HEL 17:05-07:10 +1 PKX 333 137
AY082 PKX 11:10-14:05 HEL 333 124
Which is surely an excellent one.

How can you call this schedule excellent and the WAW-PEK absolutely awful? They are almost the same, especially the outbound flight.
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:27 pm

Pellegrine wrote:
N14AZ wrote:
Zoedyn wrote:
With that, AY will become [...] the 1st foreign carrier known to be operating at both PKX and PEK rather than sticking to one Beijing airport only after Daxing opens in late September this year.

I am confused. I thought the goal was to avoid such a situation? Is this just a transition phase only?


The airports are easily 1 hour 20 minutes apart by automobile. I want to see how much of a say JFK/EWR effect there will be, with some carriers flying into both.


I am given to understand that the airspace limitation in China is due to the military not wanting to give up any more. Airports that far apart should not have anything like the NYC situation.
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:55 pm

When AA dropped ORD-PEK they said at the time the flight would be back once PKX opens. Any word on their return to Chicago - China flights?
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:02 pm

HNL wrote:
When AA dropped ORD-PEK they said at the time the flight would be back once PKX opens. Any word on their return to Chicago - China flights?


AA already returned its ORD-PEK/PVG frequencies to the DOT. Pretty sure they would need to reapply to start service again.
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:13 pm

I don't see how aa would do any better to the less preferred airport of Beijing.
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:27 pm

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I don't see how aa would do any better to the less preferred airport of Beijing.


Didn't China Southern say they wanted to grow more domestically & internationally from PKX? AA would gain more feed off of their flights, at least.
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:57 pm

I wonder what the strategies of the airlines will be?
Lufthansa Group will move a flight to PKX?
Air France-KLM if I see it in the future!
IAG, could Iberia launch MAD-PKX?
Ethiopian Airlines will obviously launch ADD-PKX very soon
Air New Zealand has grown significantly in Asia an AKL-PKX flight would be good for its route network
United and Delta will launch new flights? I see a possible LAX-PKX of both, or maybe SFO-PKX by United
Turkish Airlines see you soon too!
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:00 pm

RainerBoeing777 wrote:
I wonder what the strategies of the airlines will be?
Lufthansa Group will move a flight to PKX?
Air France-KLM if I see it in the future!
IAG, could Iberia launch MAD-PKX?
Ethiopian Airlines will obviously launch ADD-PKX very soon
Air New Zealand has grown significantly in Asia an AKL-PKX flight would be good for its route network
United and Delta will launch new flights? I see a possible LAX-PKX of both, or maybe SFO-PKX by United
Turkish Airlines see you soon too!


Why would the Star Alliance airlines move to PKX if their largest partner, Air China, is going to continue to use PEK as a primary hub? If anything, and when other airlines like Skyteam members MOVE to PKX, these Star carriers would expand at PEK.

See this article that talks about moves: http://english.cri.cn/12394/2016/07/30/3521s936025.htm
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:35 am

tphuang wrote:
why is BA doing this? PEK is the preferred airport? Are they unable to get good time slots at PEK? Seems like CA is really going to win out from this.


BA will want to shift PKX-LHR to an evening departure. They currently have an 11:40am departure on PEK-LHR. If you look at their SIN-LHR, KUL-LHR and HKG-LHR they are all late night on the west-bound with an early morning arrival into LHR. Can't get the slots for it at PEK, but will get them at PKX.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:46 am

Great news for the new Daxing airport!

British Airways has today announced that all direct flights to and from Heathrow and Beijing will move to new state-of-the-art Daxing airport from 27 October 2019, with flights available on ba.com from today.

http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/p ... f=TopStory
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:25 am

Here's the timetable for LHR—PKX as compared to current LHR—PEK, obviously not much of a change

LHR-PKX
BA039 LHR1615 – 1025+1PKX
BA038 PKX1210 – 1525LHR


LHR-PEK
BA039 LHR1625 – 0930+1PEK
BA038 PEK1140 – 1555LHR


MartijnNL wrote:
Zoedyn wrote:
Also the WAW-PKX schedule is terrific.
LO89 WAW-PKX 22:40-14:20 + 1 on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays
LO90 PKX-WAW 16:00-18:45 on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays

What's so great about this schedule? Personally I prefer to arrive in the Far East during early morning. And why would passengers want to arrive that late in Warsaw if they have a connecting flight? I would rather get home a few hours earlier.

Zoedyn wrote:
Compare that to the WAW-PEK times, absolutely awful to Chinese pax
LO91 WAW-PEK 16:30-06:35 + 1 on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays
LO92 PEK-WAW 08:45-12:20 on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays

Why are these times absolutely awful? This schedule looks fine to me.

Zoedyn wrote:
Routesonline disclosed the schedule as follows:
AY081 HEL 17:05-07:10 +1 PKX 333 137
AY082 PKX 11:10-14:05 HEL 333 124
Which is surely an excellent one.

How can you call this schedule excellent and the WAW-PEK absolutely awful? They are almost the same, especially the outbound flight.


To understand what is a good slot here, you may need to put yourself in the shoes of the majority of Chinese pax starting an intercontinental longhaul journey, who are clearly the target customers AY/LO most want to attract with their Daxing offering.

Of course, there is no denying slot preferences may differ greatly when it comes to specific individuals.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:44 am

Zoedyn wrote:
Here's the timetable for LHR—PKX as compared to current LHR—PEK, obviously not much of a change

LHR-PKX
BA039 LHR1615 – 1025+1PKX
BA038 PKX1210 – 1525LHR


LHR-PEK
BA039 LHR1625 – 0930+1PEK
BA038 PEK1140 – 1555LHR



The change is happening at the same time the BA switch from summer to winter schedule (end of October). I'd expect changes to occur at a later stage since it'll require moving round of other flights at LHR.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:52 pm

Royal Brunei Airlines (RB), the sultanate's national carrier, aims to launch its planned Beijing route this October, after securing a landing slot at the new Beijing Daxing International Airport, CEO Karam Chand has told Xinhua.

Royal Brunei Airlines to launch direct flight to Beijing Daxing in October

The exact launch date is yet to be announced.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:17 pm

PKX is too far from Beijing. Next time I fly to Beijing, I will try to avoid it
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:36 pm

A couple of years ago there were rumors that AM was close to announcing MEX-XXX-PEK-MEX. Then the chatter went quiet. I wonder if AM will actually go ahead with this route once MU moves to PKX and is allowed to expand there.
Upcoming flights:
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:37 am

Royal Air Maroc aims to launch Casablanca-Beijing Daxing in early 2020 and also hopes to serve Guangzhou and Shanghai within the next few years

Public notice of CAAC route approvals earlier this May shows AT has been granted 4x weekly CMN-BJS route authority.

I surely believe AT stands a good chance of success with its China growth strategy considering the rapidly growing popularity of Casablanca among Chinese tourists with its unique exotic appeal plus closer economic ties btwn China and West Africa, supported by forging partnership with proper Chinese airlines, which in the PKX case would doubtless be China Southern :D
 
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:17 am

Both China Eastern and Xiamen Air have received route authority from CAAC to operate twice daily BJS-HKG

MU has also received permission to operate twice daily BJS-MFM

This essentially means PKX will see another 4 daily service to HKG apart from CZ's shift of existing BJS-HKG ops from PEK to PKX.

CAAC route licences regarding HK, MO, TW for 2019 (Part 1)
 
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:21 am

EddieDude wrote:
A couple of years ago there were rumors that AM was close to announcing MEX-XXX-PEK-MEX. Then the chatter went quiet. I wonder if AM will actually go ahead with this route once MU moves to PKX and is allowed to expand there.


AM just cancelled Shanghai, unfortunately. I think it’s unlikely PEK/PKX would be started before PVG is returned to the schedule, although stranger things have happened...
 
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:03 am

Thank you for this post.
Unlike HND which clearly has the edge over NRT when going to Tokyo/Yokohama, it's not so clear between PEK and PKX.
Jianguomen / CBD is probably half way time wise. Everything north (where most travellers go) PEK should remain a bit better.
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:27 pm

bcbhokie wrote:
[AM just cancelled Shanghai, unfortunately. I think it’s unlikely PEK/PKX would be started before PVG is returned to the schedule, although stranger things have happened...


Just read that. So unexpected! Their reason that they need to reallocate the 788 aircraft used for PVG to the new daily MEX-BCN sounds to me like a bit of a lame excuse. Maybe MU will pick it up?
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:10 pm

EddieDude wrote:
bcbhokie wrote:
[AM just cancelled Shanghai, unfortunately. I think it’s unlikely PEK/PKX would be started before PVG is returned to the schedule, although stranger things have happened...


Just read that. So unexpected! Their reason that they need to reallocate the 788 aircraft used for PVG to the new daily MEX-BCN sounds to me like a bit of a lame excuse. Maybe MU will pick it up?


Remember reading an article back in 2018 about MU possibly starting MEX service. They even said they may like to launch service to MEX as a tag-on then down to South America (LIM was strong candidate). Not sure what ever came of that but maybe with AM cancelling they may decide to go forward. DL has a good relationship with MU so it may be easier than we may think.
 
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:54 pm

I said in the other thread that Hainan needs to weight restrict the B788 west-bound and make their PEK-MEX flight non-stop in both directions due to MEX's high altitude. This will increase yields as a non-stop is more attractive than a stop. This is how AeroMexico & ANA make their MEX-NRT/ICN flights work.
MEX-ICN: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 0#214f2abd
MEX-NRT (AM): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 8#2154d1f2
MEX-NRT (NH): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 9#2154e7be
 
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:07 pm

LY777 wrote:
PKX is too far from Beijing. Next time I fly to Beijing, I will try to avoid it


How long by public transport? Aren't you the spoilsport?
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:15 am

spinotter wrote:
LY777 wrote:
PKX is too far from Beijing. Next time I fly to Beijing, I will try to avoid it


How long by public transport? Aren't you the spoilsport?


20 minutes from Beijing West station is apparently too far for some people. :roll:
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:56 am

Another OW carrier Malaysia Airlines is scheduled to open PKX service from late Dec 2019

MH364 KUL 1800 – 0020+1 PKX
MH365 PKX 0130 – 0800 KUL

Malaysia Airlines schedules daily Daxing A333 service from late-Dec 2019
 
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:12 am

Per its latest Weibo feed, Juneyao Air today July 25 has signed an agreement with Daxing Airport on entry and operational issues at PKX, becoming the 1st carrier to do so.

HO plans to shift all its ops from PEK to PKX in Oct, deploying its flagship aircraft B787 widebodies on BJS-SHA, and actively seeking to open international routes from Daxing.


Great kudos to HO :champagne:

The Chinese government absolutely must shed its deep-rooted prejudices and discriminations against privately-owned carriers like HO in the country if they claim to desire market economy status by opening up the Chinese market in line with WTO regulations.

We'll see whether HO is allowed to run popular international service like PKX—CDG/TYO

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Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:19 pm

I'll post this here as well:

Finnair seems to be ending its Chongqing service on June 26, 2020, as no direct flights are bookable from this date onwards. Sad to see this route go but I assume there are good reasons behind this. As the route is flown 4x weekly during the summer season with Airbus A330, this made me think whether AY is planning to deploy the available A330 to Beijing Daxing and thus making it a daily route. Another option is a new replacement route. If so, what do you think it could be?
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:21 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
I'll post this here as well:

Finnair seems to be ending its Chongqing service on June 26, 2020, as no direct flights are bookable from this date onwards. Sad to see this route go but I assume there are good reasons behind this. As the route is flown 4x weekly during the summer season with Airbus A330, this made me think whether AY is planning to deploy the available A330 to Beijing Daxing and thus making it a daily route. Another option is a new replacement route. If so, what do you think it could be?

Update to my previous post:
Last flight is not on June 26, 2020, as the timetable shows but on October 23, 2019.
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:48 am

Per disclosure of results from latest round of China Russia aviation talks held in Beijing in late July:

:arrow: Russian airlines got allocated 12.5% of additional PKX slots reserved for international carriers for winter 2019

:arrow: Allowed pax frequencies have increased from 32 to 37 per week for Beijing-Moscow city pair, and from 28 to to 32 for Shanghai-Moscow.

:arrow: Overflying frequencies for pax and cargo service have expanded from 698 to 757 per week btwn the two sides.

俄罗斯航企获得大兴机场外航新增时刻的12.5%

Separately, British Airways is rumored to be planning a 2nd daily Daxing service btwn Beijing and London per Chinese aviation rumors online.

Which, if true, would surely raise some very interesting speculations and issues because CZ with whom BA has just forged a close partnership is also planning the imminent launch of its own long-awaited PKX-LHR flights.

Then how would BA and CZ coordinate their schedules and aircrafts :airplane: ? Would the two be able to form a JV on Sino-UK routes someday? We'll find out.
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:40 am

LAX772LR wrote:
Pellegrine wrote:
It will be interesting to see how many carriers split operations between PEK and PKX.

....and also, in what way will they do it.

I suspect by alliance ([email protected], Sky/[email protected]).

But could also be by availability, by type of operation (full service vs LoCo), etc.



Thats what they are planning. CX and KA apparently will remain in PEK. British Airways and Malaysia airlines already confirmed they will
move to PKX. Hainan airlines will remain in PEK. Air china and star alliance will remain in PEK. PKX has already China United airlines and of course the Skyteam members. more details to come.
 
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Rumor has it American to switch over to Daxing.
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:03 am

alexi0009 wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
Pellegrine wrote:
It will be interesting to see how many carriers split operations between PEK and PKX.

I suspect by alliance ([email protected], Sky/[email protected]).

But could also be by availability, by type of operation (full service vs LoCo), etc.

Thats what they are planning. CX and KA apparently will remain in PEK. British Airways and Malaysia airlines already confirmed they will
move to PKX. Hainan airlines will remain in PEK. Air china and star alliance will remain in PEK. PKX has already China United airlines and of course the Skyteam members. more details to come.

Indeed, though it's not always so clear-cut. IINM, AY for example, will serve both from Europe.

I'd be shocked if CX Group doesn't serve both, in some capacity: perhaps CX at one and KA at the other, or maybe even UO.
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:06 am

I'm guessing Qantas will make the switch as well
 
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I'm guessing Qantas will make the switch as well
Less certain I'd think. Most of their transfer traffic will go through HKG and PVG given the greater flight times to Beijing, and PEK is better located for much business traffic (the same reason MU and CZ fought to keep some flights at PEK)
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:21 am

Tickets are already open to reservation for flights to/from PKX beginning Sep 30, 2019

Searches on booking site Qunar show airfares for flights to same destinations like CAN/SZX are slightly lower out of PKX as versus PEK, eg, PKX-CAN at ¥1578 vs ¥1750 for PEK-CAN on Sep 30.

International services also see PKX have a fare edge over PEK, as Daxing flights to overseas destinations like LHR/HEL/CMN/KTM/FUK go on sale too.

For instance, a passenger could save as much as more than ¥2000 for a return trip to HEL when choosing to fly from PKX than from PEK during Nov, which is quite a lot of money.

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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:26 pm

As per the CCTV report, PKX will have alll the logistics ready for commercial operations by Sep 15th when CAAC grants the new facility the official airport license.

In the upcoming 2019 Winter/Spring Season, PKX will be scheduled to open a total of 116 routes —— 101 domestic, 15 international, covering a list of 112 destinations —— 97 domestic, 15 international, with 8 international carriers operating there —— BA, AY, LO, MH, 5K, H9, AT, BI

大兴机场投运倒计时:16家航空公司确定于2019年冬春航季入驻Daxing Airport opening countdown
 
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B1168 wrote:
chonetsao wrote:
N14AZ wrote:
I am confused. I thought the goal was to avoid such a situation? Is this just a transition phase only?


Foreign carrier is not restricted on which airport to operate from in Beijing. The restriction on market share from each airport only applies to Chinese domestic carriers.


More precisely, mainland Chinese passenger carriers outside Air China and China Eastern, whom after negotiation, managed to get authorization to fly some flights outside their main one, may only select 1 airport to operate in. Why do I highlight these parts? Well, Air Macau, HK, Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, EVA Air, etc. (Airlines registered in HK,Macau and Taiwan) are allowed to fly to both PEK and PKX. Also, China Postal airlines do.


Hong Kong is not part of mainland China.
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:55 am

LAXLHR wrote:
B1168 wrote:
chonetsao wrote:

Foreign carrier is not restricted on which airport to operate from in Beijing. The restriction on market share from each airport only applies to Chinese domestic carriers.


More precisely, mainland Chinese passenger carriers outside Air China and China Eastern, whom after negotiation, managed to get authorization to fly some flights outside their main one, may only select 1 airport to operate in. Why do I highlight these parts? Well, Air Macau, HK, Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, EVA Air, etc. (Airlines registered in HK,Macau and Taiwan) are allowed to fly to both PEK and PKX. Also, China Postal airlines do.


Hong Kong is not part of mainland China.

As so as Macau and Taiwan and that these 3 countries are not part of mainland China.
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Re: Beijing Daxing Route Announcements and News Thread

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:01 am

A thing that has so far been overlooked is the closer of Nanyuan due to China United's complete departure.
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Re: Air China (CA) announces new PKX (Beijing Daxing Airport) routes

Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:28 am

Anyone seen any further news? This initial selection of service is eclectic, to say the least.
 
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Re: Beijing Daxing Route Announcements and News Thread

Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:31 am

Zoedyn wrote:
Royal Brunei Airlines (RB), the sultanate's national carrier, aims to launch its planned Beijing route this October, after securing a landing slot at the new Beijing Daxing International Airport, CEO Karam Chand has told Xinhua.

Royal Brunei Airlines to launch direct flight to Beijing Daxing in October

The exact launch date is yet to be announced.

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It is now confirmed. Starting on 27th October 2019, Royal Brunei sets to return to Beijing after an absence of 21 years. Ticket sales has commenced.

Initially 4x weekly flights, every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday. Commencing 14 Jan 2020, it will be daily flight.

Flight No. Sector Departure Arrival Days of Operations Effective Dates
BI621 Brunei (BWN) to Beijing Daxing (PKX) 10:15 15:50 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun 27 October 2019
BI622 Beijing Daxing (PKX) to Brunei (BWN) 16:50 22:35 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun 27 October 2019
BI623 Brunei (BWN) to Beijing Daxing (PKX) 01:50 07:25 Tue, Thu, Sat 14 January 2020
BI624 Beijing Daxing (PKX) to Brunei (BWN) 11:00 16:45 Tue, Thu, Sat 14 January 2020

https://www.flyroyalbrunei.com/malaysia ... l-airport/
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Re: Beijing Daxing Route Announcements and News Thread

Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:39 am

maps4ltd wrote:
A thing that has so far been overlooked is the closer of Nanyuan due to China United's complete departure.

It's more like they are closing Nanyuan so that China Hnited need to move all its operation to PKX immediately?
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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:41 am

AT launches service to Beijing Daxing with 3 weekly frequencies with B789 as of January 16, 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/286318/royal-air-maroc-adds-beijing-daxing-service-from-jan-2020/
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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:58 pm

Add Somali Airlines to the list according to this article

http://m.atwonline.com/airports-routes/ ... 0fd3e80444
 
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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:09 am

Beijing Capital Airlines will operate its Beijing–Male and Beijing–Xi'an–Lisbon flights from PKX as of October 27, 2019.

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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:04 am

After almost half a year's extraordinarily unusual hiatus in issuing any public notice re international traffic rights allocation for Chinese carriers, CAAC has at last posted a number of newly awarded route authorities on its website this evening Sep 17.

Intercontinentally, PKX will see:

7x weekly CDG by MU
11x weekly MOW (7 by CZ, 4 by MU)

In addition, PKX will get 14x weekly HND (halved by CZ and MU)

CAAC route approvals
 
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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:26 am

Zoedyn wrote:
After almost half a year's extraordinarily unusual hiatus in issuing any public notice re international traffic rights allocation for Chinese carriers, CAAC has at last posted a number of newly awarded route authorities on its website this evening Sep 17.

Intercontinentally, PKX will see:

7x weekly CDG by MU
11x weekly MOW (7 by CZ, 4 by MU)

In addition, PKX will get 14x weekly HND (halved by CZ and MU)

CAAC route approvals

Can’t believe the Moscow route may have four Chinese carriers on it. That would be a bit of record.....
 
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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:04 pm

Per Instagram, it looks like XiamenAir will shift all Beijing ops to Daxing.
 
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Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:13 am

Not sure where that announcement thread went, but the airport is officially open!

Now... this website has an interactive diagram for the airport and a route map.... https://news.cgtn.com/event/2019/PKX/indexPC.html

The route map shows Daxing will have flights to... DFW, SEA, LAX, and BOS.

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Notably, DFW no longer shows up on the Capital route map, while other cities like SEA, LAX, BOS, IAH, TIJ, ORD, etc. will show up as Capital destinations...

Anyone know anything on this? Is it alluding to AA moving to Daxing from DFW/LAX?

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