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G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:30 am

Greetings all,

As we expect British Airways first A350 to be delivered in the month of July, I thought making a separate topic just on G-XWBA would be cool.

Just a quick summary;
BA have selected the following A350 routes. Toronto, Dubai, Bangalore and Tel Aviv
Delivery expected for 26th July (Subject to change)


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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:41 am

I think they're starting off on LHR-MAD?
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:51 am

skipness1E wrote:
I think they're starting off on LHR-MAD?



Correct but nothing has been filed in there timetable. Assuming they will run from July to Sep?
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:00 am

LHR01 wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
I think they're starting off on LHR-MAD?



Correct but nothing has been filed in there timetable. Assuming they will run from July to Sep?


Not July. Delivery until 26th July. Then a few days for maintenance and IFE fit. Then Chateauroux training for just crew. Then MAD and other Euro/Domestic runs. Likely late August to mid September.
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:53 am

As the A350 severely lacks range will it be able to do LHR-MAD without heavy payload restrictions? Only kidding of course. Can’t wait to see the A350 with the Union Jack!!!!!
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:44 am

First interior shots of the BA A350 have been released (link: https://www.headforpoints.com/2019/06/2 ... hotograph/)

New products in all three cabins. Will be exciting to experience!

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:51 am

Who decides on the registration? The first BA A350 XWB getting G-XWBA - seems like more than coincidence to me.
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:54 am

Welcome to 2019 BA, your product finally looks current and likely worth the wait. Club World is, at long last, a competitive product, looking forward to experiencing it.
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:00 pm

Lingon wrote:
Who decides on the registration? The first BA A350 XWB getting G-XWBA - seems like more than coincidence to me.


It's an out of sequence registration, so BA have requested that registration from the UK CAA (which is the norm for BA to go out-of-sequence e.g. G-NEOR, G-TTNG etc. etc.).
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:01 pm

Lingon wrote:
Who decides on the registration? The first BA A350 XWB getting G-XWBA - seems like more than coincidence to me.


Definitely not a coincidence.

For example the BA Cityflyer jets out of City airport are all with a reg of G-LCY*
 
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:14 pm

Toronto is a regular haunt for me with work so I should get the chance to fly on this, unfortunately we only go business when its over 9hrs...
The premium eco section does look to have tight seats but the foot rest/support looks good.

Does anyone know if this is going on SYD eventually? I normally go via QR but id change to BA to try the new suite if its going eventually.

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:22 pm

RossW wrote:
Lingon wrote:
Who decides on the registration? The first BA A350 XWB getting G-XWBA - seems like more than coincidence to me.


Definitely not a coincidence.

For example the BA Cityflyer jets out of City airport are all with a reg of G-LCY*


Going off topic...... They've actually run out of G-LCY* (once reaching G-LCYZ), so they are now started on G-LCA* with E190 G-LCAA.
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:28 pm

They just need to add a little colour to the cabins. The basic colour palette does look very elegant but it needs something to bring it to life.

What is the seat pitch in Y+?
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:34 pm

They probably have ease of maintenance as top priority, hence the dark colours.
 
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:42 pm

True, although they could do red stitching, inserts or pillows. Just something to liven up the cabin. But I get your point.
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:46 pm

Oh that World Traveler Plus looks tight, I understand Virgin are going that dense as well with their A350 PE. Bit of a shame really.
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:54 pm

DylanHarvey wrote:
As the A350 severely lacks range will it be able to do LHR-MAD without heavy payload restrictions? Only kidding of course. Can’t wait to see the A350 with the Union Jack!!!!!


:lol:

I'd be surprised if it can make it all the way to Madrid to be honest. They will probably have to divert to Bilbao at when the headwinds are bad.
 
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:00 pm

george77300 wrote:
LHR01 wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
I think they're starting off on LHR-MAD?



Correct but nothing has been filed in there timetable. Assuming they will run from July to Sep?


Not July. Delivery until 26th July. Then a few days for maintenance and IFE fit. Then Chateauroux training for just crew. Then MAD and other Euro/Domestic runs. Likely late August to mid September.


Damn, I was hoping to catch it while I'm at LHR on July 24, 25 but I will miss it!!!!

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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:12 pm

A388 wrote:
george77300 wrote:
LHR01 wrote:


Correct but nothing has been filed in there timetable. Assuming they will run from July to Sep?


Not July. Delivery until 26th July. Then a few days for maintenance and IFE fit. Then Chateauroux training for just crew. Then MAD and other Euro/Domestic runs. Likely late August to mid September.


Damn, I was hoping to catch it while I'm at LHR on July 24, 25 but I will miss it!!!!

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Let's not forget they will take 4 in total by end of this year. I'm sure you will see them regularly!
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:16 pm

Very sterile and bland interior. Reminds me of a hospital waiting room.
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:31 pm

JamesCousins wrote:
Oh that World Traveler Plus looks tight, I understand Virgin are going that dense as well with their A350 PE. Bit of a shame really.


A shame indeed. Lufthansa offers a far superior 2-3-2 layout in their A350 PE.
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:10 pm

DylanHarvey wrote:
As the A350 severely lacks range will it be able to do LHR-MAD without heavy payload restrictions? Only kidding of course. Can’t wait to see the A350 with the Union Jack!!!!!


I thought I was having a stroke there for a second. Well played.
 
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:17 pm

Kindanew wrote:
DylanHarvey wrote:
As the A350 severely lacks range will it be able to do LHR-MAD without heavy payload restrictions? Only kidding of course. Can’t wait to see the A350 with the Union Jack!!!!!


:lol:

I'd be surprised if it can make it all the way to Madrid to be honest. They will probably have to divert to Bilbao at when the headwinds are bad.


Don't! Someone will hold it up as proof that the A350 is an overweight POS that can only do short-haul.

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Very sterile and bland interior. Reminds me of a hospital waiting room.


You must have private medical insurance, I've never seen an NHS waiting room that looks like that!
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:24 pm

LHR01 wrote:
A388 wrote:
george77300 wrote:

Not July. Delivery until 26th July. Then a few days for maintenance and IFE fit. Then Chateauroux training for just crew. Then MAD and other Euro/Domestic runs. Likely late August to mid September.


Damn, I was hoping to catch it while I'm at LHR on July 24, 25 but I will miss it!!!!

A388


Let's not forget they will take 4 in total by end of this year. I'm sure you will see them regularly!


I live in the Caribbean so I won't be in LHR after those two days. Too expensive for me to go to LHR often so I won't be seeing them regularly, if at all.

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Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:46 pm

MoKa777 wrote:
They just need to add a little colour to the cabins. The basic colour palette does look very elegant but it needs something to bring it to life.

What is the seat pitch in Y+?


Agree. Looks dark and monochromatic.
Again, there once was a time....

Seat pitch I believe is the standard 31".
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:06 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
MoKa777 wrote:
They just need to add a little colour to the cabins. The basic colour palette does look very elegant but it needs something to bring it to life.

What is the seat pitch in Y+?


Seat pitch I believe is the standard 31".


Seat pitch in Y+ will not be 31", probably around 38" (at a guess)
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:42 pm

SKAirbus wrote:
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My guess is that they wanted a nice clean/lean/sophisticated look and it ended up very sterile.
I had to read it twice because I thought it was "Cube", because it looked like a row of office cubicles.
 
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:45 pm

Do we know when the BA A350 will begin operating LHR-TLV?
 
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Re: G-XWBA - First A350 for British Airways

Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:00 pm

Oh I do hope they schedule in some domestic turns for it. I’d love to jump on for a short ride to LHR!

george77300 wrote:
LHR01 wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
I think they're starting off on LHR-MAD?



Correct but nothing has been filed in there timetable. Assuming they will run from July to Sep?


Not July. Delivery until 26th July. Then a few days for maintenance and IFE fit. Then Chateauroux training for just crew. Then MAD and other Euro/Domestic runs. Likely late August to mid September.
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:21 pm

There is a logic to the out of sequence registrations that British Airways choose..

https://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/r ... anings-ba/
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:34 pm

Seems like a perfect plane for BOS.
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Looks good. Will be a great add to the BA fleet.
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:48 pm

GCT64 wrote:
oldannyboy wrote:
MoKa777 wrote:
They just need to add a little colour to the cabins. The basic colour palette does look very elegant but it needs something to bring it to life.

What is the seat pitch in Y+?


Seat pitch I believe is the standard 31".


Seat pitch in Y+ will not be 31", probably around 38" (at a guess)
[on 772 it's 38", 789 38", 744 38"...]


My bad, of course - apologies. I just didn't see the "+" !
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:55 pm

a320fan wrote:
Very sterile and bland interior. Reminds me of a hospital waiting room.


To be fair, it is the lighting in the photos. Onboard, there will of course be LED mood lighting that will both warm and soften the starkness.

I don't mind the use of blue on aircraft interiors; I find it relaxing. Aren't all the 3 major US carriers largely blue-themed in their interiors?
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:07 pm

Looks great, sadly the old CW will be around a LONG time with the 744 fleet keeping the current seats as they will be around until 2023 or 24. Sadly BA didn't introduce new seats on the 787, they kept the old ones, really recycled from old planes leaving the fleet.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:25 pm

Stark improvement, unfortunately World Traveller Plus leaves a little to be desired. How long before they upgrade the 787s? And with the 777s being extended to 30 years of operation will they also receive a similar layout. Talk about a product that will be all over the place for a few years!!!
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:30 pm

memphiX wrote:
SKAirbus wrote:
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My guess is that they wanted a nice clean/lean/sophisticated look and it ended up very sterile.
I had to read it twice because I thought it was "Cube", because it looked like a row of office cubicles.


They'll probably add some colored headrest covers, cushions, blankets..
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:00 pm

AABB777 wrote:
Do we know when the BA A350 will begin operating LHR-TLV?

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Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:29 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Looks great, sadly the old CW will be around a LONG time with the 744 fleet keeping the current seats as they will be around until 2023 or 24. Sadly BA didn't introduce new seats on the 787, they kept the old ones, really recycled from old planes leaving the fleet.


They'll be installed on the new 787-10s.

I'll happily take their older seats if it means I can fly on a 747!
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:08 pm

Lingon wrote:
Who decides on the registration? The first BA A350 XWB getting G-XWBA - seems like more than coincidence to me.


The BA Whales are G-XLEA and so on, XL presumably being related to the size of the plane, 'extra large'.

Starting from 1928 British aeroplanes used to be registered in sequence, starting from G-AAAA, but this changed in the 1970s so that out-of-sequence registrations can be had. More at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_aircraft_registration. I stand to be corrected, but I think that the first plane to be registered out of sequence was a Concorde, which was G-BSST.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:15 pm

Lingon wrote:
Who decides on the registration? The first BA A350 XWB getting G-XWBA - seems like more than coincidence to me.


Looking at British Airways latest Airbus registrations:

A380 = G-XLE... XL being the A380 the biggest passenger jets
A320NEO = G-TTN... TTN = Three Twenty Neo
A321NEO = G- NEO... NEO
A350XWB = G-XWB... XWB
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:16 pm

LHR01 wrote:
BA have selected the following A350 routes. Toronto, Dubai, Bangalore and Tel Aviv


Not really long (long) haul routes are they? Is that just in the beginning for crew training purposes?
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:18 pm

With the first batch of A350 having 3-class without First they will probably fly to destinations currently served by similar cabin aircraft. With this what is the longest BA flight with a 3-class aircraft with no First?
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:21 pm

DCA350 wrote:
Stark improvement, unfortunately World Traveller Plus leaves a little to be desired. How long before they upgrade the 787s? And with the 777s being extended to 30 years of operation will they also receive a similar layout. Talk about a product that will be all over the place for a few years!!!


I don't think you can say that having two versions of a product is "all over the place, especially with the BA long haul fleet having well over 100 frames. There are plenty of recent examples of airlines having three versions with a far smaller fleet size.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:24 pm

DCA350 wrote:
Stark improvement, unfortunately World Traveller Plus leaves a little to be desired. How long before they upgrade the 787s? And with the 777s being extended to 30 years of operation will they also receive a similar layout. Talk about a product that will be all over the place for a few years!!!

I think the 777s are being retrofitted... they said a few would be in operation with the new seat by the end of the year, whether those are the new deliveries or existing ones in the fleet being retrofitted, I don't know
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:25 pm

AECM wrote:
With the first batch of A350 having 3-class without First they will probably fly to destinations currently served by similar cabin aircraft. With this what is the longest BA flight with a 3-class aircraft with no First?


BKK or EZE I'd say. BLR is another long route and already shows A350 from 1 Jan 20.

BA138/139 to BOM also looks to be swapped from 4 class 77E to 3 class 77E in W19. I think there are a few more routes going down this path. Perhaps these will soon switch to A350 as they come?
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:31 pm

BA has just released a first (Airbus) video: Painting of G-XWBA
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzXk2-inupV ... _copy_link
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:40 pm

keesje wrote:
memphiX wrote:
SKAirbus wrote:
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My guess is that they wanted a nice clean/lean/sophisticated look and it ended up very sterile.
I had to read it twice because I thought it was "Cube", because it looked like a row of office cubicles.


They'll probably add some colored headrest covers, cushions, blankets..

Perhaps with Mood Light it would look less bland
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:23 pm

minister wrote:
AECM wrote:
With the first batch of A350 having 3-class without First they will probably fly to destinations currently served by similar cabin aircraft. With this what is the longest BA flight with a 3-class aircraft with no First?


BKK or EZE I'd say. BLR is another long route and already shows A350 from 1 Jan 20.

BA138/139 to BOM also looks to be swapped from 4 class 77E to 3 class 77E in W19. I think there are a few more routes going down this path. Perhaps these will soon switch to A350 as they come?

BA have yet to confirm which routes will be operated by a A350 for the Summer 2020 season. The following LHR flights are currently showing as being operated by a 3 class 777 from the start of the summer 2020 schedule on 29th March 2020 unless stated. It is thought that some of the routes above are likely to change to being operated by a A350 as no A350 routes are yet displayed. BA plan to have 7 A350’s in service by mid July 2020

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Bangkok - BA009/BA010 - Daily
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Delhi - BA143/BA142 - Daily (1st June to 30th June)
Dubai - BA109/BA108 - Daily
Grand Cayman via Nassau - BA253/BA252 - 4 x Weekly
Mumbai - BA199/BA198 - Daily
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:35 pm

Had it's rejected take off test today. Apparently first flight scheduled for tomorrow (Tuesday)

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